Running back in the draft?

[Vrill]

I saw an article saying that if Josh Docston (WR) from TCU is sitting there at #27, that TT and MM would have a hard time passing on him. A lot of people call him the next Cris Carter.

 

[GreenBaySlacker]

Then again I never expected TT to spring high for a WR last season.

Or for cobb, or for adams. Lol tt is a wr addict. I love that he went after wrs who can run the ball. His hybrid heavy team is a great one. Cobb and da mont-ster are very dynamic play makers, only begining to scratch the surface of its potential. Tt draftes rbs that can catch too. Starks and alex green were two guys who had great hands in their draft reports. Lacy has good hands too... MOSS!!!!!! Lol

So yea... We could take a wr in the 1st...

 

[Mondio]

I saw an article saying that if Josh Docston (WR) from TCU is sitting there at #27, that TT and MM would have a hard time passing on him. A lot of people call him the next Cris Carter.

but all he ever did was catch touchdowns

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

After last year, I am not as confident in our WR Corp. as I was a year ago at this time. I can buy into the 2015 issues being related to not having Jordy, but even saying that is a pretty glaring reflection on the rest of the group. That being said, I would have totally been in favor of using our #1 or #2 on a WR this year, but only if TT had fully addressed our more pressing needs on Defense (ILB, NT, DT) via Free Agency, but he didn't. So as a fan, I will hold my breath that our current group of WR's will achieve what they were suppose to last year, the addition of Jordy and Cook will most definitely help. But still feel that the first two picks need to be aimed at improving our front 7 on defense.

 

[GreenBaySlacker]

After last year, I am not as confident in our WR Corp. as I was a year ago at this time. I can buy into the 2015 issues being related to not having Jordy, but even saying that is a pretty glaring reflection on the rest of the group. That being said, I would have totally been in favor of using our #1 or #2 on a WR this year, but only if TT had fully addressed our more pressing needs on Defense (ILB, NT, DT) via Free Agency, but he didn't. So as a fan, I will hold my breath that our current group of WR's will achieve what they were suppose to last year, the addition of Jordy and Cook will most definitely help. But still feel that the first two picks need to be aimed at improving our front 7 on defense.

Wasnt just jordy imo..... Every time adams had a big game as the #1wr, he got hurt right after. (3 times last year) montgomery too. He was having a fantastic game when he got hurt... Had we not needed him so bad, i suspect we wouldnt have rushed him back and reinjured it... Cobbs dislocated shoulder early. And punctured lung in the playoffs on that magnificent "catch"... Mccarthys and rodgers unwillingness to play janis until we had too!!! Then he has a huge game, too little too late...

Combine that with the entire oline taking turns getting injured...

Injuries and timing on those injuries.... Its just crazy bad luck...

I still feel we almost have too much wr tallent. When guys like janis and abby shouldnt ever see the field. Id say we are great at wr...

 

[ThePerfectBeard]

I think the right running back could absolutely help this team. Look at someone like Kenneth Dixon. They guy is super agile and can catch really well. We could use him as a third down specialist at first, but he definitely has the size to be a 3 down back should Lacy suffer.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Rb is a different than most positions. They take a lot of abuse. Get injured often, and arent as effective banged up either.

Lacy and Starks have missed a combined five games over the last three seasons. The Packers have had way more injuries than that at other positions.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I saw an article saying that if Josh Docston (WR) from TCU is sitting there at #27, that TT and MM would have a hard time passing on him. A lot of people call him the next Cris Carter.

I wouldn't be mad if the Packers end up drafting Doctson. Unfprtunately that would leave defensive line and inside linebacker in dire need of an upgrade.

 

[GreenBaySlacker]

Lacy and Starks have missed a combined five games over the last three seasons. The Packers have had way more injuries than that at other positions.

Dig in your bag of info and tell us what our record was during those 5 games...
And hpw many games did nelson miss before last season...
Point is, we are one torqued shoulder or twisted ankle away from starks being the bell cow and crockett being our relief. And rbs get hurt all the time. ...
Agree to disagree i guess.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Point is, we are one torqued shoulder or twisted ankle away from starks being the bell cow and crockett being our relief. And rbs get hurt all the time. ...

Players at all position get regularly hurt in the NFL. While it´s true that if Lacy gets injured the Packers would have to start Starks it wouldn´t be nearly as bad as having to start either Nate Palmer or Joe Thomas at inside linebacker if either one of Barrington or Ryan have to miss several games.

While I would love to have three great running backs on the roster the truth is that the Packers need to address other positions in more dire need of an upgrade first.

 

[GreenBaySlacker]

Players at all position get regularly hurt in the NFL. While it´s true that if Lacy gets injured the Packers would have to start Starks it wouldn´t be nearly as bad as having to start either Nate Palmer or Joe Thomas at inside linebacker if either one of Barrington or Ryan have to miss several games.

While I would love to have three great running backs on the roster the truth is that the Packers need to address other positions in more dire need of an upgrade first.

I can agree with that. Ilb is close to an embarassment. When our biggest optimistic thought is that the rookie looked ok most the time...considering he is a rookie..... I cringe... Its bad.

 

[GreenBaySlacker]

I saw an article saying that if Josh Docston (WR) from TCU is sitting there at #27, that TT and MM would have a hard time passing on him. A lot of people call him the next Cris Carter.

Im sure thats just TT setting up the Vikings to come in and steal Doctson from us... Then BUST!!!!! LOLOL

 

[Passepartout]

I like Lacy and Starkes. Missing fives games in three years tells you of their durability.

 

[GreenBaySlacker]

I must still be a little jaded in my opinion because of the years between Ahman Green and Eddie Lacy being so sketchy...
I would like to see the win record during those 5 games where one of them missed a game? Also it doesnt figure in the games where one was injured but able to play, while not being as effective. I think 1/4 of Lacys 2015 season falls in that category...

I am not at all saying Lacy/Starks is not a worthy duo. Those two, at this stage... Starks seemingly peaking late, and looking better than he ever has. And the young prized work horse, who is ready to earn his big boy pay check, after some growing pains... On a passing team, they are more than enough. They are awesome...

But one goes down at any point of the season? First half would be bad because there is most the season left to play... The second half is bad because we dont have the ability to find a replacment...1/2 the time the #3 gets his first work load, and breaks down...Things tend to get ugly fast...

Strategically. And with the fact RBs take a beating. And I like my RBs to give a beating... I would have 3 starter quality RBs on the roster. If you are too concerned with wasting talent on the bench, Get a diverse group. Right now we are missing a tough, quick, scat back. Or we could go heavy and add a hammer to help Lacy pound it. But right now, starks does a pretty good job at helping Lacy...

If Lacy Starks were both sitting on 4 year deals. I wouldnt be as forward thinking... But guaranteed Starks has 2 years left at very most... Lacy and Ted might have different views on #27s value, next year when he becomes a FA. THEN WHAT!?!?!?

Its time to add a RB worth having now... And then worst case scenario we enter training camp with 3 RBs...

Honestly Montgomery and Cobb both look great out of the backfield... I always forget that part.

 

[ivo610]

I dont expect Starks to be with us after next season and Lacy is anyones guess. It would be smart to draft a RB this season with the potential to start. At best we let Lacy go after this season and save some money

 

[HardRightEdge]

I like Lacy and Starkes. Missing fives games in three years tells you of their durability.

A third is needed, but it's not a high priority. They'll probably use Montgomery and/or Cobb for change of pace a couple of plays per game. But change of pace has never been a McCarthy priority, and both Starks and Lacy (when fit) have developed decent 3rd. down traits. As with TE and WR, I would not be surprised if no RB was drafted.

 

[Poppa San]

I would not be surprised if no RB was drafted.

I would be. TT likes to pick one year ahead of time. After this season I'd expect either Starks or Lacy to be gone. We'd need a #2 ready to step in and play. Late round pick like Starks most likely. Maybe he even spends most of the season on the PS if he isn't ready to be #3.

 

[HardRightEdge]

I would be. TT likes to pick one year ahead of time. After this season I'd expect either Starks or Lacy to be gone. We'd need a #2 ready to step in and play. Late round pick like Starks most likely. Maybe he even spends most of the season on the PS if he isn't ready to be #3.

The NFL position that requires the least amount of seasoning is RB. Get a college runner of some quality who fits the scheme and he's 90% good to go right out of the box. Those guys run on athletic talent and instincts, more born than made. That could be left for the 2017 draft if necessary.

Starks was a late round pick because he missed his entire senior season with a shoulder injury. Otherwise he would have gone much higher. Maybe if there's a 2nd. round talent falling to the 6th. round on injury concerns, like Starks, you might want to take a shot.

I thought Jay Ajayi could be that guy in the last draft. The erstwhile media was reporting concerns over a foot injury from before he put up 2,300 yards from scrimmage. After the draft Mayock reported he had a knee that was bone-on-bone. I'm surprised he went in the 5th. round with that diagnosis. Or maybe it wasn't true at all. But I digress.

I might add a RB in the Amish contest just because you need 3 if I find one I like for cheap, but it's not a necessity, . But I would not be surprised if Thompson just brings a UDFA or two to camp.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I would like to see the win record during those 5 games where one of them missed a game?

The Packers are 3-2 in those games with the losses coming on one of the worst play calls on McCarthy's tenure against the Bengals in 2013 as well as Crosby missing the game winner against Detroit last season.

I'm not opposed to drafting a running back on day 3 but don't see the need to do it earlier.

I dont expect Starks to be with us after next season and Lacy is anyones guess.

I'm surprised by how many Packers fans believe Starks will be gone after this season.

 

[HardRightEdge]

I'm surprised by how many Packers fans believe Starks will be gone after this season.

I don't understand this either. Maybe it's because he'll be 31 years old with an injury history, but lets take a closer look at that.

He hasn't missed a game in the last 2 seasons, and only 3 games in 2013.

He'll be a young 31 by virtue of limited touches. The short shelf life with many RBs is more a function of the accumulated pounding than the calendar.

Including playoffs, Starks has 676 carries and 121 catches for a total of 797 touches in GB. That's less than 3 seasons you'd see from a feature back. To take one example, Alfred Morris, a player we discussed earlier in this context, hit 658 touches by the end of his 2nd. season, including playoffs.

This would all be irrelevant if Starks had noticeably lost a step. I don't see it.

The Packers gave him a 2 year deal for a reason that goes beyond "keeping our own".

 

[Vrill]

I want a RB with some juice that can house it from anywhere on the field. We have lacked that at the RB position for a while now.

 

[Scotland Yard]

Two late round prospects I have my eyes on for the Packers are:

1 - Darius Jackson, Eastern Michigan (6'0", 220lbs., 4.4/40yd dash, 41 inch vertical). Dude put up big numbers at a lower level program, but, what stands out is the NFL body and athleticism to compete in the pros. 6th or 7th round.

2 - Kelvin Taylor, Florida (5'10", 205lbs., 4.65/40yd dash, son of former JAX RB Fred Taylor). 40 time killed his draft status, but, he plays fast when you watch his film. Watching him play he reminds me of Edgar Bennett. Also, apparently doesn't play with an entitled mentality just because his father was great, he really competes and plays with a fire in his belly. Might be worth a shot in the 6th or 7th round.

 

[GreenBaySlacker]

I don't understand this either. Maybe it's because he'll be 31 years old with an injury history, but lets take a closer look at that.

He hasn't missed a game in the last 2 seasons, and only 3 games in 2013.

He'll be a young 31 by virtue of limited touches. The short shelf life with many RBs is more a function of the accumulated pounding than the calendar.

Including playoffs, Starks has 676 carries and 121 catches for a total of 797 touches in GB. That's less than 3 seasons you'd see from a feature back. To take one example, Alfred Morris, a player we discussed earlier in this context, he hit 658 touches by the end of his 2nd. season, including playoffs.

This would all be irrelevant if Starks had noticeably lost a step. I don't see it.

The Packers gave him a 2 year deal for a reason that go beyond "keeping our own".

Starks will be here for two more years for sure, UNLESS he has a major injury. ACL? Then I could see us dropping him...But I agree. Starks is peaking now. And you showing his career touches is a clear show of that. Wow. he could play to 35 maybe? I said before, he is going to be a great RB for us late in his career like fred Jackson was for Buffalo... Always waited for him to slow down, and he never did...well eventually he did, but

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Kelvin Taylor, Florida (5'10", 205lbs., 4.65/40yd dash, son of former JAX RB Fred Taylor). 40 time killed his draft status, but, he plays fast when you watch his film. Watching him play he reminds me of Edgar Bennett. Also, apparently doesn't play with an entitled mentality just because his father was great, he really competes and plays with a fire in his belly. Might be worth a shot in the 6th or 7th round.

Don´t know a whole lot about Darius Jackson but Taylor isn´t the elusive running back the Packers should be looking for. In addition he struggles in pass protection which is pretty important to get on the field in Green Bay.