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    Params: post, 5658, a:3:{i:0;s:145:"One thing I know everyone could do...... (?????) ...is to get onboard with the other Forum directly related to the Packers Team - and that's ";i:1;a:4:{s:3:"tag";s:3:"url";s:6:"option";N;s:8:"original";a:2:{i:0;s:5:"[url]";i:1;s:6:"[/url]";}s:8:"children";a:1:{i:0;s:33:"http://www.Officialbrettfavre.com";}}i:2;s:213:" On there you can leave messages directly for Brett. It "is" for real! I have left several messsages over there already. Brett & Gilbert (I think) were always good friends... Maybe he can tickle TT's ear!";}, 1458829234, 1462363008
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    Params: post, 5659, a:1:{i:0;s:364:"I liked Gilbert, but I don't think he's the answer anymore. He's breaking down physically, and doesn't have the quickness he use to have. I admire Gilbert for what he's done for the Packers, especially playing with 1 arm when he got hurt, but I think it's time to move on. I'd be very surprised if the Packers resigned Gilbert. Where were these rumors reported?";}, 1458829234, 1462363008
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    Params: post, 5660, a:1:{i:0;s:745:"IPBPrez, get real. Gilbert Brown was a great addition to the Packers when they got him from the Vikings. However, this constant return to the past is ridiculous. I'm tired of hearing about "Bring back Gilbert." The man was a force for a few years, but his playing days are done. Personally, I think this "Ravens rumor" is pure BS. I won't even ask for a link- just give a credible source for this rumor. Good grief- I've already dealt with people talking about resurrecting Frank Winters. Well, if you want to hear a REALLY stupid rumor, I'll start (another) one. Since the Packers feel they need a veteran to back up Favre at QB this year, they are trying to lure (take your choice) Elway, Montana, Namath out of retirement. Now, happy? :roll:";}, 1458829234, 1462363008
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