Parsons Trade

[OldSchool101]

Dallas' 2 plus your 2 over 2 years.
The 4 they pick will always be compared to what Micah does for y'all.

No. I disagree there. The selections GB lost will be the proper way to grade Parsons, not by adding selections that in zero fashion were affected by this trade.

Law of averages is both draft picks will be playoff contender level draft selections or later RD1 selections.

There is also a time value lost in future selections. Having an All Pro entering 5th year and he just turned 26yrs old is FAR more valuable than a future opportunity to draft one in 1 or 2 years.
On most draft grids, waiting 1 season drops the draft value roughly 1 RD +-
2026- RD1 would be like getting a 2nd Rounder today.
2027- RD1 would be like getting an early 3rd Rounder today.

Dallas might also lose on the age factor. Micah was a full year younger than the bulk of players being drafted.

Don’t tell Jerry that he just got a later 2nd and earlier 3rd Rounder value though, he might choke you! Lol

 

[Jayzee1981]

Policy is gambling on Love and Parsons boys and girls. Enjoy the ride

 

[tynimiller]

Walker and Ryhan were on their last years in GB with their replacements allready having been drafted the last two years in the 1st and 2nd rounds respectively. Those trade doesn't change that. They were gone after this season yesterday. They're still gone

Doubs is one concusion away from retirement and Watson is comming back from knee surgery

Quay and Enagbare are about to have their playing time drastically reduced due to well..... Adding Micah Parsons

Which of those players am I supposed to be worried about losing next offseason when the only one I wouldve batted an eyelash at is/was Quay?

Also removing Clark's 20 million next year alleviates a lot of the cost. They're still more then fine cap wise.

I think you grossly misread my post….everything you state is precisely why I bring forth getting what you can out of a few of these guys makes even MORE sense now than it did yesterday.

 

[tynimiller]

I think Rhyan is the most logical to stay, and possibly let Jenkins walk to do that. I feel either Doubs or Watson will stay, but not both. The rest are probably as good as gone, with Quay as a trade piece after this year.

He cannot be traded after this year - he won’t be ours to trade.

 

[DoURant]

He cannot be traded after this year - he won’t be ours to trade.

Wasn't he given the 5th yr option? Edit: Damn I guess he wasn't, I was thinking he was, but it was Devonte Wyatt who they exercised the 5th yr with.

 

[tynimiller]

Wasn't he given the 5th yr option?

Wyatt was not Quay

 

[OldSchool101]

He cannot be traded after this year - he won’t be ours to trade.

Oddly enough. It might even be more prudent now to go ahead and trade Quay. Either trade him for Draft capital or for a player at another position of perceived importance.
I’d feel pretty good if we could get a 3rd for Quay/5th packaged etc.

We still have Parsons, Cooper, McDuffie, Hopper and the new dude. Plus we’ve got a couple of other targets that looked pretty good to elevate at LB for injuries.

 

[tynimiller]

Oddly enough. It might even be more prudent now to go ahead and trade Quay. Either trade him for Draft capital or for a player at another position of perceived importance.
I’d feel pretty good if we could get a 3rd for Quay/5th packaged etc.

We still have Parsons, Cooper, McDuffie, Hopper and the new dude. Plus we’ve got a couple of other targets that looked pretty good to elevate at LB for injury.

Don’t forget Oliver has off ball backer and edge offering too in the background once healthy. Trading Quay makes a ton of sense from a future structure…I will be honest Quay, Cooper and Parsons would be the most elite off ball backers we’ve had in GB maybe ever tho lol

 

[DoURant]

With all this Parsons talk, lost behind the scenes was the Packers signed TE Josh Whyle to the PS. I liked him coming out. Big target at 6'7"

 

[Deleted member 18607 aka in gute we trust]

What comes with this? You gotta go win the Lombardi this year. That $188 million given to Micah is going to make them have to lose players that some of you are not going to be real happy about starting next year.

This is a win one right now or bust move by Gute and Ed Policy.

If Matt LaFleur's seat was a little warm a week ago, it's on fire now. They have given Matt more than enough to win it all. He needs to get it done, or he is gone without question.

 

[AKCheese]

This move is absolutely horrible.
2x 1st round picks AND our best Defensive lineman??? With $40 mil dead cap?!
$47 mil a year for 4 years???

And his back is not healthy???
Now we can't keep our young team together.

Parsons is NOT prime JJWatt. Or Reggie White. Wtf is gute thinking??? The odds of this playing out in our favor is from.

We were in unbelievable position before this move. I'm speechless

Clearly you are not (speechless)

 

[gopkrs]

Oddly enough. It might even be more prudent now to go ahead and trade Quay. Either trade him for Draft capital or for a player at another position of perceived importance.
I’d feel pretty good if we could get a 3rd for Quay/5th packaged etc.

We still have Parsons, Cooper, McDuffie, Hopper and the new dude. Plus we’ve got a couple of other targets that looked pretty good to elevate at LB for injuries.

I think we need Quay right now. I am looking forward to the Cooper/Hopper combo in the not too distant future but Q will start there and he will be integral in helping to seal up the middle running lanes imho. I don't see Parsons as a normal linebacker and we need a few good ones on supply.

 

[Thirteen Below]

Oddly enough. It might even be more prudent now to go ahead and trade Quay. Either trade him for Draft capital or for a player at another position of perceived importance.
I’d feel pretty good if we could get a 3rd for Quay/5th packaged etc

A few days ago, I saw a Parsons trade proposal featuring Quay, 2 1st-rounders, and I think a 5th. That prognosticator said it would clear over $25,000,000 from our salary cap just this season alone, but I didn't check his figures. But at the time, I felt that if his facts were correct, that was the most sensible scenario I had seen propssed yet.

I would not mind trading Quay for the right return. It's suddenly a slightly higher priority to accumulate a couple extra picks, especially a Day 2 if possible.

 

[BrokenArrow]

What comes with this? You gotta go win the Lombardi this year. That $188 million given to Micah is going to make them have to lose players that some of you are not going to be real happy about starting next year.

This is a win one right now or bust move by Gute and Ed Policy.

If Matt LaFleur's seat was a little warm a week ago, it's on fire now. They have given Matt more than enough to win it all. He needs to get it done, or he is gone without question.

Matt's seat isn't hot at all. Just because you want it to be doesn't mean Gute is with you.

 

[U.P. Packfan]

I think someone else mentioned this earlier but this reminds me of a day in the mid 90's when I heard that the Pack had signed Reggie White. I told my brother "The Packers just became Super Bowl contenders!" His take was that one player could not have that kind of an effect. It turned out that I was correct! They pushed for the Lombardi for a year or two and then won it in '97. They had another chance the next year but Elway and Davis took care of that. I say "contender" because even the best teams do not always win. I do like our chances now though!

 

[Pkrjones]

Looking for a wide body on the waiver wire

Did you say Desmond Watson?!?!?!!!! I'd bring all 450 lbs. (or less if his conditioning & diet is working) in for a workout. Let's see Detroit run thru him!

 

[OldSchool101]

A few days ago, I saw a Parsons trade proposal featuring Quay, 2 1st-rounders, and I think a 5th. That prognosticator said it would clear over $25,000,000 from our salary cap just this season alone, but I didn't check his figures. But at the time, I felt that if his facts were correct, that was the most sensible scenario I had seen propssed yet.

I would not mind trading Quay for the right return. It's suddenly a slightly higher priority to accumulate a couple extra picks, especially a Day 2 if possible.

That was my thinking. I feel like we’ve got good depth at LB behind Cooper, McDuffie, Parsons with Hopper, Welch and Dumas-Johnson. Quay likely won’t get a contract next season.

If an AFC team offered a pick swap such as a 3rd Rounder for Quay/5th or 6th I’d strongly consider it or a 4th Rounder straight up before deadline? That would help recoup our Draft capital some in 2026.
RD2, RD3, RD3, RD4, RD5, 7
RD2, RD3, RD4, RD4, RD5,6,7

In the 2027 draft I suspect we’ll have some nice compensatory picks with several FA parting prior year. Possibly even a 3rd or 4th Rounder for Rasheed. Just thinking about how to balance our draft capital some here.

 

[Wojak]

First you sabotage us with McCarthy and kill us in the playoffs and now this.

 

[Thirteen Below]

In the 2027 draft I suspect we’ll have some nice compensatory picks with several FA parting prior year. Possibly even a 3rd or 4th Rounder for Rasheed. Just thinking about how to balance our draft capital some here.

Especially since we're now probably not going to be able to sign any high-caliber free agents of our own next spring.

 

[Pkrjones]

Let's hope so. Claiming a sore back doesn't help in negotiating a huge deal. That's not logical.

That was Parson's "excuse" for not practicing but EVERYONE knew it was a holdout. Jerry Jones had no intention to pay Parsons, was going to Franchise tag him thru '27 & have him play for 1/2 his worth. Parsons played his hand perfectly, imho.

 

[thequick12]

Over the last 2 seasons Kenny Clark has 1 more sack than Karl Brooks (8.5/7.5)

The Packers really like Colby Wooden inside

Van Ness could definitely play inside on passing downs

Parsons can definitely play Linebacker

The rookies from Georgia have some size to em. Stackhouse 6-4 327 and Brinson 6-5 315

Wyatt is due for a big season

While I dont like losing Clark, the Packers now have a very versatile front 7. I haven't even talked about Cooper, Gary and Walker yet and they are the 3 best returning players

 

[Pkrjones]

I know folks get mad when I say it but this locks me into thinking Doubs is truly a trade piece depending if some things happen….

If Golden is what it seems (Gold), Wicks drops issues are declining this year and Watson is back sooner it seems….

AND another team has a clear WR2 go down and they need Doubs to fill that role.

If you could get say a 4th & 6th or 5th &7th type deal for Doubs even if you have to toss a say 2027 6th or so ...

We already gave away our '27 6th rounder for Kinnard... so any deals should have picks coming TO GB to keep 21 year olds in camp.

 

[RRyder]

Don’t forget Oliver has off ball backer and edge offering too in the background once healthy. Trading Quay makes a ton of sense from a future structure…I will be honest Quay, Cooper and Parsons would be the most elite off ball backers we’ve had in GB maybe ever tho lol

Keeping Quay for this year really allows a lot of different personnel looks on D

Plus im.not sure he has the kind of value to make a trade worth while

Now depending how they fell about Morgan then a Walker trade could make a lot of sense if meant bringing in a quality CB along with a mid rounder.

Quality LTs have a lot of value and if they feel good about Morgan that might be something to explore especially since they just traded for a backup tackle

 

[Thirteen Below]

Quality LTs have a lot of value and if they feel good about Morgan that might be something to explore especially since they just traded for a backup tackle

Which (quite frankly) has made me wonder whether that is exactly the longterm plan. I thnk Sheed has played at a high-enough level that he could easily bring a Day Two pick. Probably not a Day One, but depending on how much of an emergencey the other team is facing, who knows.... Walker for a Day One, and flip a 3rd for a 4th, or 4th for a 5th or 6th.... somewhere in there, there may be a math that works, and I think Gutekunst has done a quietly great job of amassing depth and quality on the O-line, moreso than most teams. Teams who may be buyers now, while we are in a position to sell.

Lots of other teams out there who may be just one injury away from their O-line suddenly absorbing a blow that makes their post-season plans less promising than they seemed a week ago.

 

[Deleted member 18607 aka in gute we trust]

Matt's seat isn't hot at all. Just because you want it to be doesn't mean Gute is with you.

Ok, kiddo. Keep thinking I hate Matt LaFleur, and that his job is safe no matter what.

Gute also is not the one that decides Matt's fate. Ed Policy makes those decisions. Hence, why Ed has not yet extended the contracts of Gute and Matt. They both could be gone next season, up to Ed Policy.