Packers vs Bengals Game Thread: No Cats here Edition

[gopkrs]

Let's make sure to not get the #1 seed then.

Absolutely. Where is his head in those moments. He looked to me proud to have slid not at all realizing he could have put the game away.

 

[Firethorn1001]

When they start counting style points I'll care. Pretty sure if they won 45-0 the narrative would have been 'so what, that's what should have happened' So really, if you are of that mindset, there was zero enjoyment to be had over this game and all negativity.

 

[Thirteen Below]

I’ll take ugly wins over pathetic loses any day, glad there are not more long holidays for the Packers any time soon

I'm starting to think they may get a really long one in January and February...

 

[Sanguine camper]

Just not a well played game. They got the win but the defense was awful in the second half. Even when they rushed 5 they couldn't get close to Flaco who's as immobil as they come.

Pass protection was spotty at best. Love was running for his life way too much but frequently completed a throw after he scrambled.

The more I watch Jacob's, the more respect I have for him. He just buckles the chin strap and plays ******* every down. I love old school football players like him.

 

[Thirteen Below]

Pretty sure if they won 45-0 the narrative would have been 'so what, that's what should have happened' So really, if you are of that mindset, there was zero enjoyment to be had over this game and all negativity.

Those are two completely different things; there's no comparison.

 

[Voyageur]

Poor late game decision making by both Love and our LeFleur. They tried to give the Bengals a chance at getting back in the game. Other than that, a well called game on the offense and good decision making for the most part by Love during the game. Dumb penalties have to end. That INT? Those happen like that.

Nixon. They mentioned he has the most passes defensed in the league this year. I think I can say why. He is being targeted because he's a patsy even when he's tight on coverage because he does not get his head around to see the ball. Don't be fooled by his being plastered to receivers. He's playing the man not the ball, and the flags are starting to fly and it's going to get worse until he gets his head on a swivel. Flacco used that to beat around on him today and it worked. He's a smart QB and knows how to take advantage of errors.

It wasn't a good win or a bad win for the Packers today. It was a win that they should have. I do have concerns about the fact that we come out of the tunnel to start the 2nd half with what seems like brain freeze on defense. It's perplexing, because Hafely seems like an intelligent coach.

 

[OldSchool101]

Poor late game decision making by both Love and our LeFleur. They tried to give the Bengals a chance at getting back in the game. Other than that, a well called game on the offense and good decision making for the most part by Love during the game. Dumb penalties have to end. That INT? Those happen like that.

Nixon. They mentioned he has the most passes defensed in the league this year. I think I can say why. He is being targeted because he's a patsy even when he's tight on coverage because he does not get his head around to see the ball. Don't be fooled by his being plastered to receivers. He's playing the man not the ball, and the flags are starting to fly and it's going to get worse until he gets his head on a swivel. Flacco used that to beat around on him today and it worked. He's a smart QB and knows how to take advantage of errors.

It wasn't a good win or a bad win for the Packers today. It was a win that they should have. I do have concerns about the fact that we come out of the tunnel to start the 2nd half with what seems like brain freeze on defense. It's perplexing, because Hafely seems like an intelligent coach.

Good idea on Nixon. He did have a few nice plays. Granted their WR’s are really the only strong point. The rule allows some incidental contact of you play the ball. It’s an easy flag if the head is late getting turned.

I will offer that Nixon plays very sticky aggressive. He’s rarely just out of position. If he fine tunes the finish he could be a 3-4 INT CB and get a big big paycheck. His Run Defense is grade A. He does draw too many flags though

 

[OldSchool101]

could use some help from KC tonight.

 

[McKnowledge]

Related to this thread but also involving the trade deadline.

Is there any interest in making a move. I've read of reports involving Kingsley Enagbare. Packers are deep at DE, especially with Sorrell acquired in the draft.

Why not move him for draft capital or another player straight up?

Enagbare for Cam Britt-Taylor?

The salaries match as both are in the last years of their rookie deals and would fulfill needs for the opposing teams.

Packers could use a legitimate CB1 with size and move Nixon into the slot (his natural position).

GB needs to create turnovers which is Nixon's specialty.

Enagbare would give the Bengals much needed help with their pass rush.

 

[tynimiller]

Related to this thread but also involving the trade deadline.

Is there any interest in making a move. I've read of reports involving Kingsley Enagbare. Packers are deep at DE, especially with Sorrell acquired in the draft.

Why not move him for draft capital or another player straight up?

Enagbare for Cam Britt-Taylor?

The salaries match as both are in the last years of their rookie deals and would fulfill needs for the opposing teams.

Packers could use a legitimate CB1 with size and move Nixon into the slot (his natural position).

GB needs to create turnovers which is Nixon's specialty.

Enagbare would give the Bengals much needed help with their pass rush.

I could see us move Enagbare for sure but I highly doubt you’re getting that trade straight up.

 

[Voyageur]

Related to this thread but also involving the trade deadline.

Is there any interest in making a move. I've read of reports involving Kingsley Enagbare. Packers are deep at DE, especially with Sorrell acquired in the draft.

Why not move him for draft capital or another player straight up?

Enagbare for Cam Britt-Taylor?

The salaries match as both are in the last years of their rookie deals and would fulfill needs for the opposing teams.

Packers could use a legitimate CB1 with size and move Nixon into the slot (his natural position).

GB needs to create turnovers which is Nixon's specialty.

Enagbare would give the Bengals much needed help with their pass rush.

This would be a logical move. Moving Nixon into the slot would make his game better. He has talent, he just isn't the type of defender who can run with his head on a swivel in coverage. I read that about Engabare myself and didn't think too much about it until you suggested the move which would improve our DBs on the field. Good call.

 

[Voyageur]

I could see us move Enagbare for sure but I highly doubt you’re getting that trade straight up.

I think you're right. The Packers would probably have to throw in a 5th or 6th round pick as a guess. Considering how many guys we will be losing this year via free agency we'd more than likely get enough picks to make up for the loss of that one.

 

[tynimiller]

I think you're right. The Packers would probably have to throw in a 5th or 6th round pick as a guess. Considering how many guys we will be losing this year via free agency we'd more than likely get enough picks to make up for the loss of that one.

Yes and no....now I will say extending Tom when we did he won't factor into the formula...but if they have any intent to see if they can work Doubs or either of the two Walker's into future plans they need to do it before league year ends or those would factor in.

Also it's not a clean lose one here (2026 draft in a trade) and get back one there because Compensatory picks for losses won't be in our hands until 2027 draft.

 

[McKnowledge]

This would be a logical move. Moving Nixon into the slot would make his game better. He has talent, he just isn't the type of defender who can run with his head on a swivel in coverage. I read that about Engabare myself and didn't think too much about it until you suggested the move which would improve our DBs on the field. Good call.

I'm certain Cincinnati isn't high on CBT, to their credit, their defensive rookie class looks promising. I think with DJ Turner's emergence they would entertain a deal.

Nixon is a slot corner; he should not play outside.

 

[Thirteen Below]

I want to point out some of Nixon's numbers this season, according to thecoldwire.com...

Key Defensive Metrics​

Among cornerbacks with at least 150 defensive snaps:

• Targets: 23 (9th most)
• Completions allowed: 12 (5th fewest)
• Completion rate against: 52.2% (5th lowest)
• Yards allowed: 129 (9th lowest)
• Yards after catch (YAC): 32 (4th lowest)
• Forced incompletions: 6 (1st in the NFL)
• Forced incompletion rate: 26% (1st among cornerbacks)
• Quarterback rating when targeted: 68.9 (4th best in the league)

Nixon has also not allowed a touchdown so far this season, a major indicator of his consistency and reliability in coverage.

PFF assigned him the 4th best coverage grade, and 4th best overall grade among CBs.

He may be doing better than a lot of us realized...

 

[Voyageur]

I want to point out some of Nixon's numbers this season, according to thecoldwire.com...



PFF assigned him the 4th best coverage grade, and 4th best overall grade among CBs.

He may be doing better than a lot of us realized...

Those stats tell a different story, no doubt about it. He's had 2 pass interference calls this year and is second in the league in number. Last year he had 14 penalties called against him, which led the team don't know where he stood league wide.

I still believe he plays better in the slot and would move him there if I had someone who could play outside and run with the WRs.

 

[McKnowledge]

I want to point out some of Nixon's numbers this season, according to thecoldwire.com...



PFF assigned him the 4th best coverage grade, and 4th best overall grade among CBs.

He may be doing better than a lot of us realized...

The stats don’t lie. Can’t argue against that.

My question is…Will Nixon’s current level of play remain consistent throughout the season and beyond?

I personally question whether opposing teams will target him with bigger receivers as the season progresses.

Justin Jefferson and Rome Odunze concern me.

 

[tynimiller]

I want to point out some of Nixon's numbers this season, according to thecoldwire.com...



PFF assigned him the 4th best coverage grade, and 4th best overall grade among CBs.

He may be doing better than a lot of us realized...

There is zero denying that Nixon has overshot what I envisioned he would be capable of, I however still think his style is ripe for big plays against him BUT dude has shown me a team can play him outside and he isn't a massive liability like he used to be. I'm so happy I was wrong about him.

 

[McKnowledge]

There is zero denying that Nixon has overshot what I envisioned he would be capable of, I however still think his style is ripe for big plays against him BUT dude has shown me a team can play him outside and he isn't a massive liability like he used to be. I'm so happy I was wrong about him.

He’s playing up to his contract for sure. Great to see. He’s a gamer. I just can envision him giving up a big play or two at the worst moment. I would like to see another CB vet with size added to the room.

 

[Thirteen Below]

There is zero denying that Nixon has overshot what I envisioned he would be capable of, I however still think his style is ripe for big plays against him BUT dude has shown me a team can play him outside and he isn't a massive liability like he used to be. I'm so happy I was wrong about him.

I agree with every word; exactly my own feelings. I've always liked him a lot because of his attitude, hard work, and "team first" mentality, but (like a lot of people) was disappointed in his play. And I never thought he'd amount to much.

I certainly never dreamed he'd be a respectable replacement for Jaire. In fact, so far he's doing a lot more to help the team than Jaire's done since 2022.

My question is…Will Nixon’s current level of play remain consistent throughout the season and beyond?

I personally question whether opposing teams will target him with bigger receivers as the season progresses.

That's a legitimate question; it's only mid-October. Teams are watching tape, looking for tendencies and vulnerabilities that they can exploit. It's very possible that as the season goes on, he's going to have some bad games. Some receivers are going to match up with him better than others, so we'll have to wait and see as the season unfolds.

But so far, he's been a very pleasant surprise.

 

[OldSchool101]

I agree with every word; exactly my own feelings. I've always liked him a lot because of his attitude, hard work, and "team first" mentality, but (like a lot of people) was disappointed in his play. And I never thought he'd amount to much.

I certainly never dreamed he'd be a respectable replacement for Jaire. In fact, so far he's doing a lot more to help the team than Jaire's done since 2022.



That's a legitimate question; it's only mid-October. Teams are watching tape, looking for tendencies and vulnerabilities that they can exploit. It's very possible that as the season goes on, he's going to have some bad games. Some receivers are going to match up with him better than others, so we'll have to wait and see as the season unfolds.

But so far, he's been a very pleasant surprise.

Guys what’s amazing to me is there’s a sector of fans I’ve seen saying Keisean is not a good CB. We’ve got an average of 6.3Mil annual per CB for our top 3 CB’s. That’s cheap $$.

 

[OldSchool101]

I guess the Packers at Bengals weren’t an anomoly after all. Flacco is tearing up the Steelers also. Flacco just translated beautifully in Cincinnati. He uses veteran Savvy and above average accuracy to dinc and dunk for 6.1 per toss. He’s only been Sacked once by the Steelers, who have a good pass rush.
Bengals also came out opening drive 3rd Qtr and are just manipulating their way downfield. Similar to last week.

 

[Firethorn1001]

I guess the Packers at Bengals weren’t an anomoly after all. Flacco is tearing up the Steelers also.

Came here to say the same thing.

 

[rmontro]

I guess the Packers at Bengals weren’t an anomoly after all. Flacco is tearing up the Steelers also. Flacco just translated beautifully in Cincinnati.

It's not even that far of a drive from Cleveland to Cincinnati. How did Ohio get two NFL teams?

 

[OldSchool101]

It's not even that far of a drive from Cleveland to Cincinnati. How did Ohio get two NFL teams?

I’m not sure how it started.

Interesting question though I happened to look it up when he was traded because I thought how convenient for him he can just drive there one evening, stay the week and drive back if he wants.

I was surprised to find that Ohio is the 7th most populated state with 12,000,000 people. About double the population of Wisconsin. I would’ve guessed it’s bigger, but not 200%