NFC North Predictions

[Heyjoe4]

Philly fans had a reputation of being like that back to the days of the old Vet stadium. I would hope it has changed. Back in the days of the old AOL Boards some of the posters that were the nastiest were on the Eagle board. Although there were some that were professional and respectable.

I think Philly fans are still considered to be among the nastiest in the NFL.

 

[Curly Calhoun]

I also think we have a good deal of room for improvement in the Run game. Jacobs at 4.4 per carry is a little low. Now as his workload increases naturally a RB’s per carry will level off some. However if we had a Top 10 Run Blocking OL, I think Jacobs Rushes 250-275 times for 4.8–5.3 yards per carry and slightly tops his 2024 yards but with 25-50 less carries.

No one can tell me that Saquon Barkley just went from around 4.0 per carry in his last 700 carries (pre-Eagles) to 5.8 per carry because of himself. Sure RB’s fluctuate but not by near 2 yards per carry. Blocking is crucial to a RB’s success. I think Jacobs is capable of 5+ per carry IF he has help. As in a Top 10 Run Blocking OL. It doesn’t need to be #1 but it sure can’t be #22 or whatever we were. That’s why I say Elgton Jenkins better be careful because the Packers just might scrape their $13mil Cap savings now and stick Morgan at RG and slide Sean Rhyan to Center. We’d have our backup Tackle with Belton or Morgan and our Backup C/Guard with Monk. Plus we’d have $13mil more reasons to go add another Veteran at either DT or CB or just lock down both Quay and Tom now. Let’s reward the players who want to be here and possibly add 1 more veteran upgrade at a needed position.

Saquon Barkley also went from the likes of Daniel Jones quarterbacking the offense to Jalen Hurts...A competent quarterback will help a running game in the same way a strong running game helps a quarterback.

I expect Jacobs and Love to feed off one another in the same manner. Green Bay's o-line may not be as dominate as Philly's, but it's also not too shabby.

With all the added weaponry, as long as this offense is healthy, I think we can reasonably expect it to put up some big numbers.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Saquon Barkley also went from the likes of Daniel Jones quarterbacking the offense to Jalen Hurts...A competent quarterback will help a running game in the same way a strong running game helps a quarterback.

I expect Jacobs and Love to feed off one another in the same manner. Green Bay's o-line may not be as dominate as Philly's, but it's also not too shabby.

With all the added weaponry, as long as this offense is healthy, I think we can reasonably expect it to put up some big numbers.

Yeah this offense looks very capable of scoring a lot of points. MLF will have to show some self discipline in sticking with the run game, something he's struggled with in the past.

The O-line is improved, and behind Jacobs are three very-capable RBs. I'm also very interested in how early and how often MLF uses new WR Golden. I don't think the Packers took him in the first round to be a spectator. Even so, he's a rookie and will have to show something in TC and the PS to get targets when the real games begin.

 

[rmontro]

Philly fans had a reputation of being like that back to the days of the old Vet stadium. I would hope it has changed. Back in the days of the old AOL Boards some of the posters that were the nastiest were on the Eagle board. Although there were some that were professional and respectable.

AOL!? Now there's a blast from the past.

 

[gopkrs]

AOL!? Now there's a blast from the past.

I use aol. Great for spam.

 

[milani]

AOL!? Now there's a blast from the past.

Every team in the league had a board that was accessible to fans of any other team which made the interaction fun. But most of the activity was among the top 15 winning team boards. The Bears and Vikings had some real nut cases. They also had a live NFL chat that was open 24/7.

 

[rmontro]

I use aol. Great for spam.

You mean it's still around? That's wild.

Every team in the league had a board that was accessible to fans of any other team which made the interaction fun. But most of the activity was among the top 15 winning team boards.

I never used AOL, even though they sent me enough installation cds in the mail. I was very fond of the old Usenet newsgroups though. In fact, I only resentfully and reluctantly switched to the website based message boards that they have now. They had to drag me kicking and screaming.

 

[Heyjoe4]

You mean it's still around? That's wild.



I never used AOL, even though they sent me enough installation cds in the mail. I was very fond of the old Usenet newsgroups though. In fact, I only resentfully and reluctantly switched to the website based message boards that they have now. They had to drag me kicking and screaming.

Then you probably also remember DOS 3.3 - OMG that takes me back, but only to the mid 90s or so. We were still using DOS before it was renamed Microsoft Windows OS. I think I have my dates right. My, my how times have changed. And it wasn't that long after DOS that MSFT released Windows Vista, a total disaster.

Wimbledon got rid of line judges for AI judges. The NFL can't be far behind. Not sure I like that change, and I am NOT a Luddite.

 

[tynimiller]

Then you probably also remember DOS 3.3 - OMG that takes me back, but only to the mid 90s or so. We were still using DOS before it was renamed Microsoft Windows OS. I think I have my dates right. My, my how times have changed. And it wasn't that long after DOS that MSFT released Windows Vista, a total disaster.

Wimbledon got rid of line judges for AI judges. The NFL can't be far behind. Not sure I like that change, and I am NOT a Luddite.

One difference with Wimbledon is how long they have had the computer replay and challenge system and have been constantly perfecting it.

 

[Voyageur]

One difference with Wimbledon is how long they have had the computer replay and challenge system and have been constantly perfecting it.

The time is coming where a lot of the officiating in all sports outside of those requiring personal perspectives will be automated. I hope it does happen sooner than later. The technology is there, time to use it.

A good example is baseball. You'd no longer have to deal with the Angel Hernandez umpires because balls and strikes would be called by the computerized system. It wouldn't eliminate the umpire behind the plate, but it would sure improve the accuracy of the calls.

 

[gopkrs]

Then you probably also remember DOS 3.3 - OMG that takes me back, but only to the mid 90s or so. We were still using DOS before it was renamed Microsoft Windows OS. I think I have my dates right. My, my how times have changed. And it wasn't that long after DOS that MSFT released Windows Vista, a total disaster.

Wimbledon got rid of line judges for AI judges. The NFL can't be far behind. Not sure I like that change, and I am NOT a Luddite.

I wish we still had dos. I hate that Microsoft took most of the control out of our hands. Not that I was a dos expert. I could do a few things though.

 

[OldSchool101]

Then you probably also remember DOS 3.3 - OMG that takes me back, but only to the mid 90s or so. We were still using DOS before it was renamed Microsoft Windows OS. I think I have my dates right. My, my how times have changed. And it wasn't that long after DOS that MSFT released Windows Vista, a total disaster.

Wimbledon got rid of line judges for AI judges. The NFL can't be far behind. Not sure I like that change, and I am NOT a Luddite.

lol.

I literally sold the first 8086 processor (the upgrade to intel 8085) at our Circuit City #805 Store (we used store codes not locations). Before that it was primarily Word processors or electronic typewriters. It was a neat and exciting time to be in the electronics business. Which I stayed in until 1997.

 

[rmontro]

Then you probably also remember DOS 3.3 - OMG that takes me back, but only to the mid 90s or so. We were still using DOS before it was renamed Microsoft Windows OS. I think I have my dates right. My, my how times have changed.

I remember DOS, I don't recall what version I was using. My nephew taught me how to use the commands. When I got my first version of Windows, I hated it, I was so used to DOS. But they improved it pretty quickly.

 

[Heyjoe4]

One difference with Wimbledon is how long they have had the computer replay and challenge system and have been constantly perfecting it.

I didn't know that. Thanks for the info. And I don't know why AI is involved. The NFL has used a version of the challenge system involving replays for years. Those are still judgement calls made by humans - at Wimbledon and in the NFL.

For tennis, I could see a laser-like system to determine if a ball is inside or outside a line. That might already be in use. In the NFL, I could see ball placement done with technology, rather than an official. I'm no Luddite, but only so much judgement can be removed from the game. Regardless, changes are coming.

 

[Voyageur]

I didn't know that. Thanks for the info. And I don't know why AI is involved. The NFL has used a version of the challenge system involving replays for years. Those are still judgement calls made by humans - at Wimbledon and in the NFL.

For tennis, I could see a laser-like system to determine if a ball is inside or outside a line. That might already be in use. In the NFL, I could see ball placement done with technology, rather than an official. I'm no Luddite, but only so much judgement can be removed from the game. Regardless, changes are coming.

I don't think they should limit the number of calls a team has for instant replay. As long as they keep getting them right why should they be penalized? I think limit them to two and if they're right both times on their challenge keep giving them one back until they are wrong. I've seen way too many games where there's been several plays that should be reviewed but aren't because teams are afraid to use them or have run out.

Watching a baseball game last night and there was a really close play at 1st base. They called the batter out and replay showed he was safe by a split second. They reversed it. That should not be counted against the challenging team but according to their system that was their last challenge.

 

[tynimiller]

I don't think they should limit the number of calls a team has for instant replay. As long as they keep getting them right why should they be penalized? I think limit them to two and if they're right both times on their challenge keep giving them one back until they are wrong. I've seen way too many games where there's been several plays that should be reviewed but aren't because teams are afraid to use them or have run out.

Watching a baseball game last night and there was a really close play at 1st base. They called the batter out and replay showed he was safe by a split second. They reversed it. That should not be counted against the challenging team but according to their system that was their last challenge.

I think they should limit team challenges but a booth ref reviewing all calls that can buzz the refs would be awesome - and make that unlimited.

 

[Voyageur]

I think they should limit team challenges but a booth ref reviewing all calls that can buzz the refs would be awesome - and make that unlimited.

Works for me as long as the booth review people are doing the job right not just making the call on totally obvious situations.

 

[OldSchool101]

I think they should limit team challenges but a booth ref reviewing all calls that can buzz the refs would be awesome - and make that unlimited.

Yes. This is Sorta like my Wife and My Mother in Law. I limit my Wife’s rebuttals, but Her Mother then in turn gets involved with an unlimited buzzing.

 

[gopkrs]

I don't think they should limit the number of calls a team has for instant replay. As long as they keep getting them right why should they be penalized? I think limit them to two and if they're right both times on their challenge keep giving them one back until they are wrong. I've seen way too many games where there's been several plays that should be reviewed but aren't because teams are afraid to use them or have run out.

Watching a baseball game last night and there was a really close play at 1st base. They called the batter out and replay showed he was safe by a split second. They reversed it. That should not be counted against the challenging team but according to their system that was their last challenge.

Absolutely agree!

 

[milani]

You mean it's still around? That's wild.



I never used AOL, even though they sent me enough installation cds in the mail. I was very fond of the old Usenet newsgroups though. In fact, I only resentfully and reluctantly switched to the website based message boards that they have now. They had to drag me kicking and screaming.

They ARE good for spam. Those old boards helped me learn a lot about the other teams in the league at the time. I felt bad for Carolina the year they went 1-15. Their board was deserted. Then they started one season 3-0. A Panther fan commented that his team was probably the worst 3-0 team in league history. I replied that if they keep that up they could also be the worst 16-0 team in history.

 

[Curly Calhoun]

I think they should limit team challenges but a booth ref reviewing all calls that can buzz the refs would be awesome - and make that unlimited.

I like the idea of booth reviews.

I dislike the idea of the ref running over to the sidelines to watch the replay on some tiny screen which seems to take forever to get into position. By the time the ref sees the replay, everyone watching at home has seen the play five or six times and already knows what the call should be.

It's tedious at best.

A dedicated booth reviewer who could see the replay and make the call within a minute or less, would be preferential, IMHO.

 

[Calebs Revenge]

lol.

I literally sold the first 8086 processor (the upgrade to intel 8085) at our Circuit City #805 Store (we used store codes not locations). Before that it was primarily Word processors or electronic typewriters. It was a neat and exciting time to be in the electronics business. Which I stayed in until 1997.

I was born around the invention of Nintendo.
My nephews have VR goggles.
The Holosuites are not far behind.
Technology is truly astounding. If they were up to me, I'd be showing off my nice new bow and arrow and the fire I made....hahahhahahahahahhHahahaha

I hope we don't wipe ourselves out "Terminator" style......bc "it's in our nature to destroy ourselves"

 

[DoURant]

I like the idea of booth reviews.

I dislike the idea of the ref running over to the sidelines to watch the replay on some tiny screen which seems to take forever to get into position. By the time the ref sees the replay, everyone watching at home has seen the play five or six times and already knows what the call should be.

It's tedious at best.

A dedicated booth reviewer who could see the replay and make the call within a minute or less, would be preferential, IMHO.

Baseball and Hockey do this, or at least it is decided from someone not on tge field/ice, and it works great.

 

[gopkrs]

Baseball and Hockey do this, or at least it is decided from someone not on tge field/ice, and it works great.

I still think there should be two coaches challenges and if they are right; they have another. Along with the booth review.

 

[tynimiller]

I still think there should be two coaches challenges and if they are right; they have another. Along with the booth review.

I've always felt if you challenge and win - you get the challenge back...I don't care if that means you have 8 in a game...