NFC North 2025

[tynimiller]

Not knowing them, I was happy with both. You know, I trust in Gute. But if neither of them turn out to be worth the value; it will be tough to trust him in the future. For me, players with a track record, should be a relatively sure thing.

Eh...Gute's FA signings of decent sized deals or higher he was shooting lights out until this year, albeit too early to lock in either in the negative column. Banks minimum is playing as a starter for us and has not even been messed with losing his spot...Hobbs on the other hand is highly likely to be losing his.

 

[El Guapo]

Eh...Gute's FA signings of decent sized deals or higher he was shooting lights out until this year, albeit too early to lock in either in the negative column. Banks minimum is playing as a starter for us and has not even been messed with losing his spot...Hobbs on the other hand is highly likely to be losing his.

To be fair, both Banks and Hobbs started the season injured so we may not know until next year if either of those guys were worth the money.

Knowing that both players were injury risks, the money already seems to have been too much just due to availability.

 

[tynimiller]

To be fair, both Banks and Hobbs started the season injured so we may not know until next year if either of those guys were worth the money.

Knowing that both players were injury risks, the money already seems to have been too much just due to availability.

Absolutely. Banks I think will be fine.

 

[tynimiller]

As fitting of a place as any, but it is hilarious how, yes there is truth that we are not a complete team or playing as one right now, but how QUICKLY folks pretend the league is loaded with juggernauts.

Panthers had better record than Vikings coming into today….and Lions lost to them…the “chosen” chiefs lose…Pittsburgh with the “upset” if they’re as trash as so many thought when we beat them….Broncos barely beat Houston…

The fact, and it is a fact, remains GB is winning in a league that it isn’t easy.

With the help of others we really didn’t lose any ground on the division.

Now that said, Love has proven time and time and time again to be fully capable of cooking, the one thing I strongly feel MLF needs to do is abandon the run as a means to set up the pass….I fully support that approach but couple things we have an elite thrower of the rock AND our line isn’t a juggernaut of run blockers like they are savants of pass pro for the most part.

LET LOVE COOK.

 

[Firethorn1001]

One thing that is getting to me with MLF that others have stated. Do what is working this year. I know he wants to ride Jacobs, but so far this year the hot hand is Love, not Jacobs. Love will need to set Jacobs up. Last year it was the other way around so he really needs to go with what is working, not with what he wants to work.

And I really want to know what percent of Packers passes are the sideline 0-1 yard screen as opposed to the rest of the NFL. Sure seems like the Packers do it a lot more than the NFL, but I admit I don't pay that close of attention to other teams tendencies.

 

[OldSchool101]

As fitting of a place as any, but it is hilarious how, yes there is truth that we are not a complete team or playing as one right now, but how QUICKLY folks pretend the league is loaded with juggernauts.

Panthers had better record than Vikings coming into today….and Lions lost to them…the “chosen” chiefs lose…Pittsburgh with the “upset” if they’re as trash as so many thought when we beat them….Broncos barely beat Houston…

The fact, and it is a fact, remains GB is winning in a league that it isn’t easy.

With the help of others we really didn’t lose any ground on the division.

Now that said, Love has proven time and time and time again to be fully capable of cooking, the one thing I strongly feel MLF needs to do is abandon the run as a means to set up the pass….I fully support that approach but couple things we have an elite thrower of the rock AND our line isn’t a juggernaut of run blockers like they are savants of pass pro for the most part.

LET LOVE COOK.

Particularly in the 1st -2nd Quarters. Since Week 2? We’re averaging 7.5 points in each FIRST Half game. If I recall we’re in the bottom 25% tile in the league in Qtr1-2.
That’s not going to get it done with many good teams. I get it against maybe the Browns. We started with 3 points and it’s a Defensive game with two great defenses.
The Packers Offense MUST figure out a way to spark more points in the first 2 Quarters. I don’t pretend to know our game theology but I’d be a little more aggressive earlier in.

It had actually worked on our first couple drives. We started Pass Pass but fumbled the ball in their redzone.

Then we started the next drive passing, but 2nd n 6 at Car14 we
we go -8 sack. -5 Watson false start
FG +3. A pair of long drives with 3 pts?? Ouch
Might’ve stayed aggressive and played 2nd down like it’s 1st down and run it. If you pick up at least 2+ it’s 3rd n 4 and I’m thinking 2 tries here.
I wouldn’t back down from a team who gave up 200+ yards to a RB last week. Worst worse case leave then backed up needing 90 yards
Instead it’s
false start, Sack, False start

 

[Voyageur]

Particularly in the 1st -2nd Quarters. Since Week 2? We’re averaging 7.5 points in each FIRST Half game. If I recall we’re in the bottom 25% tile in the league in Qtr1-2.
That’s not going to get it done with many good teams. I get it against maybe the Browns. We started with 3 points and it’s a Defensive game with two great defenses.
The Packers Offense MUST figure out a way to spark more points in the first 2 Quarters. I don’t pretend to know our game theology but I’d be a little more aggressive earlier in.

It had actually worked on our first couple drives. We started Pass Pass but fumbled the ball in their redzone.

Then we started the next drive passing, but 2nd n 6 at Car14 we
we go -8 sack. -5 Watson false start
FG +3. A pair of long drives with 3 pts?? Ouch
Might’ve stayed aggressive and played 2nd down like it’s 1st down and run it. If you pick up at least 2+ it’s 3rd n 4 and I’m thinking 2 tries here.
I wouldn’t back down from a team who gave up 200+ yards to a RB last week. Worst worse case leave then backed up needing 90 yards
Instead it’s
false start, Sack, False start

Poor play calling. Nobody is fooled by the wildcat with Golden back there. He's not going to muscle through the line. Stacking 3 receivers then motioning the RB out to the flat to run a screen is something that doesn't even work at the high school level unless you have some big receivers to throw blocks. With 3rd & 3 you don't throw the ball deep. You use the short middle routes if you intend throwing it. But you should be running it anyway if you're inside the 40 because you figure you have two downs to make that short yardage. Don't put yourself in the trick by forcing yourself to have to pass on 4th down because the metrics for making it with a run on 4th down aren't good.

Matt? Why don't you like the short routes over the middle? They're wide open. Yet we keep seeing the out routes, screens, and trying to fit the ball into double coverage in deeper routes. Don't you trust them to move the ball? Yeah! You threw the ball to Romeo 10 times and he caught 7. All but two were highly contested and he still grabbed them. Meanwhile, Love is looking all over the field and not even seen Doubs crossing in the shorter routes where he can move the chains and we end up with another incomplete pass. Is the problem with the play design or is Love avoiding throwing to him thinking he's going to get the big score? Either way, fix it! Fix it now, or we're going to be in the playoffs but a mark to be booted by a team not as good as ours.

The defense ended up trying to make big plays for turnovers because they saw the offense was not even close to being competitive because of play selection. That last drive by the Panthers was a classic. They saw the shorter routes, used them, moved the chains, and beat us with the same tactic we should be using to put the ball in the end zone ourselves.

No reason to be yelling that the sky is falling. This team was never an elite team.

 

[milani]

As fitting of a place as any, but it is hilarious how, yes there is truth that we are not a complete team or playing as one right now, but how QUICKLY folks pretend the league is loaded with juggernauts.

Panthers had better record than Vikings coming into today….and Lions lost to them…the “chosen” chiefs lose…Pittsburgh with the “upset” if they’re as trash as so many thought when we beat them….Broncos barely beat Houston…

The fact, and it is a fact, remains GB is winning in a league that it isn’t easy.

With the help of others we really didn’t lose any ground on the division.

Now that said, Love has proven time and time and time again to be fully capable of cooking, the one thing I strongly feel MLF needs to do is abandon the run as a means to set up the pass….I fully support that approach but couple things we have an elite thrower of the rock AND our line isn’t a juggernaut of run blockers like they are savants of pass pro for the most part.

LET LOVE COOK.

The Packers had a lot more talent on the field today than the other side and could not get it done.

 

[tynimiller]

The Packers had a lot more talent on the field today than the other side and could not get it done.

I wouldn't disagree which is why it should **** the players off...two turnovers, one missed field goal and bad play calling at times will always be a perfect storm for a loss.

Crazy thing is this team is clearly good, capable of playing great, but not great right now. The crazy thing is, as bad as many claim or think or know we are - we've yet to be handled in a game easily. One thing often true of the best teams each year is even their bad is sometimes similar to another team's good.

I don't know if MLF will realize just how freaking good Love is when you just let him cook. Let Love have 40 attempts, cuz he's proven he is quite good at protecting the ball and making the proper reads.

 

[OldSchool101]

the North has had the easy part of the schedule for the most part. We’re getting into the meat of the NFC and Division games now. It’s crazy how our Tie has been advantageous, had we lost to Dallas it changes everything.

The Packers need to just hold our miniscule lead and it simply comes down to handling our games. While we face Philly at least it’s at home. Also coming off a loss does something to energize a team. If we can squeak out a win this would be huge. We’d be
6-2-1 and at minimum 0.5 game ahead of the North in the back half of the season.

 

[OldSchool101]

The Bears.

-They beat the Cowboys at Soldier
-They beat the Raiders and Commanders who are both struggling this year by 1 point each.
-Beat a bottom dweller Saints
-They beat the Bengals at Soldier in a nail biter on a 58 yard pass.

12-29-1

That’s the combined record of those opponents. This next series of games will differentiate the contenders from pretenders. Chicago has not beat an opponent with a winning record to date. Their best win was to the cowboys at home. Soon starts the gauntlet.

Chicago plays 41-32 record teams going forward.

 

[Voyageur]

the North has had the easy part of the schedule for the most part. We’re getting into the meat of the NFC and Division games now. It’s crazy how our Tie has been advantageous, had we lost to Dallas it changes everything.

The Packers need to just hold our miniscule lead and it simply comes down to handling our games. While we face Philly at least it’s at home. Also coming off a loss does something to energize a team. If we can squeak out a win this would be huge. We’d be
6-2-1 and at minimum 0.5 game ahead of the North in the back half of the season.

That lead could easily evaporate this coming Sunday. This game concerns me.

 

[OldSchool101]

That lead could easily evaporate this coming Sunday. This game concerns me.

Good news. Chicago will be playing Philly after us. They get a mediocre game this week, comes Vikings,. Steelers, Eagles, Browns, packers, 49ers, packers, lions.

Should be due at minimum for a handful of losses in there. Chicago won’t get GB Playing backups this year. I hope!

 

[milani]

That lead could easily evaporate this coming Sunday. This game concerns me.

The Eagles are the defending Champs and still may be the best team on paper in the NFC. They just added to their good defense. I suspect they will use the same game plan they used last January: Mix it up with Barkley, throws to the TE. Hurts may not run too much. And they will use the Tush Push in short yardage. We need help from the crowd to try and draw some penalties.
On defense they try and stop Jacobs and rush up the middle forcing Love to throw early. They will press our receivers trying to get Love to throw into tight coverage like last year.
Even though the Eagles beat us twice last year they did not play their best against us. Parsons knows Hurts very well. I hope he chases him down a few times.

 

[gopkrs]

That lead could easily evaporate this coming Sunday. This game concerns me.

As it should. It's an important game. I hope Hafley plays tight enough so they don't have short yardage to get a first. I mean, giving up 9 yards is just as bad as 10. Worse if it's on first down

 

[milani]

Good news. Chicago will be playing Philly after us.

What I notice about the Bears is that they play with reckless abandon this year. As if they do not care who their opponent is. And Caleb performs the same whether it is 0-0 or 28-0.

 

[rmontro]

As it should. It's an important game. I hope Hafley plays tight enough so they don't have short yardage to get a first. I mean, giving up 9 yards is just as bad as 10. Worse if it's on first down

And it can also set you up for a slow death by attrition. A bunch of third and shorts that they can tush push through keeps the defense out on the field longer, wearing them out, and keeping our offense off the field and doesn't let them build momentum or rhythm.

On the opposite side, those quick 60 yard bombs for a touchdown are exciting, but I'd take a long, clock eating drive over a quick score in most situations. For the same reason as the first paragraph.

 

[rmontro]

Giants choked away a 10 point lead in the fourth quarter to lose to the Bears. As I like to say, losers find ways to lose.

 

[OldSchool101]

Yes. The Bears have now conquered 6 opponents who ALL have losing records. Many with Wins in the closing minutes. They’ll get 2 more chances at losing records with the Vikings and Browns. (assuming the 4-5 Ravens get back to .500). Then it’ll be go time with a clump of teams over .500. Steelers, Packers, Eagles, Packers, SF49ers, Lions

Good Luck!

 

[milani]

Giants choked away a 10 point lead in the fourth quarter to lose to the Bears. As I like to say, losers find ways to lose.

Dart going out with the concussion was all it took. Wilson cannot do it any longer.

 

[milani]

Yes. The Bears have now conquered 6 opponents who ALL have losing records. Many with Wins in the closing minutes. They’ll get 2 more chances at losing records with the Vikings and Browns. (assuming the 4-5 Ravens get back to .500). Then it’ll be go time with a clump of teams over .500. Steelers, Packers, Eagles, Packers, SF49ers, Lions

Good Luck!

The Bears play hard and they play all 4 quarters. They do not quit. A credit to their coaching staff. And all 45 players are on board.

 

[rmontro]

Yes. The Bears have now conquered 6 opponents who ALL have losing records.

You have to start somewhere. They have the benefit of playing the last place schedule. Right now I'd say they're doing well with it. Their offense has scored more points than ours has, even before today's game. Yes, they've played a lot of losing teams, but still.

 

[Half Empty]

Giants choked away a 10 point lead in the fourth quarter to lose to the Bears. As I like to say, losers find ways to lose.

Unless they play the Packers

 

[OldSchool101]

You have to start somewhere. They have the benefit of playing the last place schedule. Right now I'd say they're doing well with it. Their offense has scored more points than ours has, even before today's game. Yes, they've played a lot of losing teams, but still.

They did fantastic with what they’ve been dealt. They beat another 2 Win team in the closing 2 minutes. Again Something to be said for winning. Your like to see a few wins against ranked teams though.

The opponent quality is a big factor in 6-3. Their combined opponent records? .263 Win record
15-41-1

 

[OldSchool101]

The Bears play hard and they play all 4 quarters. They do not quit. A credit to their coaching staff. And all 45 players are on board.

Amen. We need to see them without Malik Willis, E Wilson, M Heath and Oladapo as our FT starters (no offense to you Green n Gold Gents!)They have been dealt the easiest schedule thus far and it’s always good to Win. Next week they play MN, who beat them already. Then comes gauntlet