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[adambr2]

Matt LaFleur's shocking role in historic drop in NFLPA grades

A report reveals the role Matt LaFleur played in the Green Bay Packers' historic drop in NFLPA grades this year.

clutchpoints.com

The Packers, and Matt Lafleur, graded out very poorly in NFLPA surveys.

 

[gopkrs]

Matt LaFleur's shocking role in historic drop in NFLPA grades

A report reveals the role Matt LaFleur played in the Green Bay Packers' historic drop in NFLPA grades this year.

clutchpoints.com

The Packers, and Matt Lafleur, graded out very poorly in NFLPA surveys.

No excuse for these things not to be top notched. There should be someone other than the head coach overseeing all of it imho. Maybe explains problems will injuries

 

[adambr2]

No excuse for these things not to be top notched. There should be someone other than the head coach overseeing all of it imho. Maybe explains problems will injuries

The training staff grades are definitely no surprise.

 

[gopkrs]

No excuse

 

[OldSchool101]

We have 2 threads on the exact same topic

Firethorn has thread from 4pm if you search NFLPA report card

Maybe a Mod can merge?

 

[Firethorn1001]

Maybe a Mod can merge?

Can just delete mine since people started chatting here about it.

My comments from it.

Some of this stuff seems like it is long overdue to correct. I seem to recall child care and dietician/nutrition stuff being of note on previous reports and the locker room stuff is being addressed now.

But the MLF grade is concerning. Although, like the article states, odd given that number of players spoke out in support of him, but if the players don't think you respect them (or vice versa) that is not good. At all.

 

[tynimiller]

I'm not overly concerned and still always have questioned this report even on years we rank one of the best.

Shouldn't be ignored but im not picking up any torches or pitchforks at all

 

[Magooch]

When it says "second-to-last in respect for players" are we supposed to take that to mean "Players feel he doesn't respect them" or "He doesn't have the respect of players" ?

"For players" seems to indicate "from coach, to player" but that seems harder to quantify in a player survey than the opposite direction...

 

[red4tribe]

It is a little worrying to me. The two bottom ranked coaches last year were fired (Eberflus and Pederson). Previous year, the lowest ranked coaches were Ron Rivera and Josh McDaniels, who were also fired. Jonathan Gannon received a better grade in this year’s report card than MLF.

Maybe it’s unreliable data, I have no idea. But it does suggest he isn’t as well liked by the players as most coaches.

 

[gopkrs]

I was concerned with the knock on facilities which surprised me. Not enough space. Not good rehab areas. Sounds like it needs a redesign. I wonder if they have good cardio stuff? Or maybe the players are expected to run up and down the stairs

 

[adambr2]

I'm not overly concerned and still always have questioned this report even on years we rank one of the best.

Shouldn't be ignored but im not picking up any torches or pitchforks at all

Isn’t it literally a survey of the players and their opinions?

 

[tynimiller]

Isn’t it literally a survey of the players and their opinions?

This is the claim, and to the best of my knowledge they’ve never said who it is that responded to the survey. Was it a couple or forty guys from GB…who knows.

 

[adambr2]

This is the claim, and to the best of my knowledge they’ve never said who it is that responded to the survey. Was it a couple or forty guys from GB…who knows.

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1,759 responses is nearly 59 per team, or more than an active roster, so that would seem to indicate that the percentage of responses was very high.

NFLPA 2026 report cards: See the results for all 32 teams

See the results of the NFL Players Association's 2026 report cards for all 32 teams.

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It’s also worth noting that it was conducted prior to our 5 game losing streak and the Bears’ big comeback win against us in the playoffs.

 

[rmontro]

I wonder how much correlation, if any, there is to team success?

"LaFleur ranked nearly last in respect for players". That seems odd.

 

[adambr2]

I wonder how much correlation, if any, there is to team success?

"LaFleur ranked nearly last in respect for players". That seems odd.

Well, without digging too deep, all of the recent Super Bowl teams have “A” head coaches.

I don’t know what to make of MLF being nearly last in “respect for players”, but this throws a lot of cold water on the theory that because Love and Parsons spoke up for MLF, he’s well-liked by the entire team.

What players will say about him anonymously is a lot more telling than what they’ll say if directly questioned by the media.

 

[Heyjoe4]

No excuse for these things not to be top notched. There should be someone other than the head coach overseeing all of it imho. Maybe explains problems will injuries

MLF is the Packers' OC. And that would be fine if he was not also the HC.

Just my opinion, but he gets wrapped up in the offense to the detriment of the D and STs, hell to the detriment of the offense. He is also weak in clock management. Some of that is beyond his control, but not much.

So what can be done? I'd much prefer that he acted like a HC and hired a qualified play caller for OC. This would give him more time to make in-game adjustments - to just have a better feel of the flow of the game, and that includes making adjustments during the game. He simply hasn't shown he can do this, or that he even wants to.

I did not want to see him fired. I did hope that some other org changes would happen, like the appoimtent of a real assistant HC (Bisaccia did nothing, as far as I can tell, in this role).

And I was also hoping Gluten would get promoted to manage of all football operations, with MLF reporting to him. Policy would have to be very involved to make sure that new dynamic worked (MLF reporting to Gluten), but this is the best way to manage a football operation IMO.

So I don't see a lot that has changed between 2025 and 2026. Gluten is just going to have to trust that MLF can manage the offense, while improving the D and STs.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I wonder how much correlation, if any, there is to team success?

"LaFleur ranked nearly last in respect for players". That seems odd.

To clarify, the survey measured how much players felt they were respected by MLF, and that score was low.

That creates a morale problem in the locker room. I'm retired now, but I'd be concerned to learn that people I worked with, or who reported to me, did not respect me. And that said, I have no idea how MLF fixes it.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I was concerned with the knock on facilities which surprised me. Not enough space. Not good rehab areas. Sounds like it needs a redesign. I wonder if they have good cardio stuff? Or maybe the players are expected to run up and down the stairs

This is a huge surprise. My belief is that the Packers are well-known for the state of their facilities and that players love it.

 

[adambr2]

MLF is the Packers' OC. And that would be fine if he was not also the HC.

Just my opinion, but he gets wrapped up in the offense to the detriment of the D and STs, hell to the detriment of the offense. He is also weak in clock management. Some of that is beyond his control, but not much.

So what can be done? I'd much prefer that he acted like a HC and hired a qualified play caller for OC. This would give him more time to make in-game adjustments - to just have a better feel of the flow of the game, and that includes making adjustments during the game. He simply hasn't shown he can do this, or that he even wants to.

I did not want to see him fired. I did hope that some other org changes would happen, like the appoimtent of a real assistant HC (Bisaccia did nothing, as far as I can tell, in this role).

And I was also hoping Gluten would get promoted to manage of all football operations, with MLF reporting to him. Policy would have to be very involved to make sure that new dynamic worked (MLF reporting to Gluten), but this is the best way to manage a football operation IMO.

So I don't see a lot that has changed between 2025 and 2026. Gluten is just going to have to trust that MLF can manage the offense, while improving the D and STs.

The most honest assessment I can give of Matt Lafleur is that he can be very good at his job when it is limited to a small, specific scope of responsibility.

The problem with this is that he is a micromanager and the more he tries to divide his attention, the worse he becomes at everything within his scope.

 

[rmontro]

Well, without digging too deep, all of the recent Super Bowl teams have “A” head coaches.

Still, I wonder whether that is the result of players being happier with their coach because of the high level of success they're having? In other words, is it cause or effect? Winning covers over a multitude of sins.

MLF is the Packers' OC. And that would be fine if he was not also the HC.

I don't know how much LaFleur would add to the D or ST. He was obviously hired mainly for his offensive capabilities. Of course, the offense hasn't been wildly successful either.

To clarify, the survey measured how much players felt they were respected by MLF, and that score was low.

Yeah, I got that. I just think it seems odd. You often see those after game speeches by MLF to the team (especially after a win), and I never caught any odd vibes of anyone being disrespected. It all seemed like pretty normal coach/player relations to me.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I'm not overly concerned and still always have questioned this report even on years we rank one of the best.

Shouldn't be ignored but im not picking up any torches or pitchforks at all

Yeah that was the reaction I had as well. And the report, or the reporting on the report, is confusing - "MLF's respect for players" dropped, or was it "players' respect for MLF". And why no comments from the players? Just not a well done survey IMO.

Not that it should be dismissed out of hand, and the issues with training sound more valid than the nebulous comment on MLF. But I thought the Packers had one of the better training facilities in the league. Too much uncertainty around all of this.

Finally, a lot of people correlate strong training programs with lack of in juries. Personally, I never saw that correlation as very strong. These guys are very well-conditioned athletes and injuries still happen. Injuries happen and are usually the result of being in the wrong place at the wrong time - I'm thinking of Kraft getting accidentally kicked by a teammate, or no good reason at all - Parsons' getting an ACL tear on a non-contact play. Bakhtiari tearing his ACL in practice. Jordy Nelson tore his ACL on a non-contact play in PS quite a few years ago.

Rarely, if ever, does an NFL player get hurt from not being in shape. Just MO.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Still, I wonder whether that is the result of players being happier with their coach because of the high level of success they're having? In other words, is it cause or effect? Winning covers over a multitude of sins.



I don't know how much LaFleur would add to the D or ST. He was obviously hired mainly for his offensive capabilities. Of course, the offense hasn't been wildly successful either.



Yeah, I got that. I just think it seems odd. You often see those after game speeches by MLF to the team (especially after a win), and I never caught any odd vibes of anyone being disrespected. It all seemed like pretty normal coach/player relations to me.

Agreed rmontro. MLF would add little to the STs and D from a coaching standpoint, especially during a game.

As a play caller, it seems he's gotten stale, not a lot of creativity. And with all of his focus on the offense and the next play, it's easier to lose sight of the clock.

Well I guess Ed Policy disagrees with me. And to his credit, MLF has won a lot of games. Playoff record is pretty dismal. That's something we'd all like to see change.

 

[Heyjoe4]

The most honest assessment I can give of Matt Lafleur is that he can be very good at his job when it is limited to a small, specific scope of responsibility.

The problem with this is that he is a micromanager and the more he tries to divide his attention, the worse he becomes at everything within his scope.

Good point - MLF comes across as a micromanager, and leaders in sports and business who do this usually fail. I've seen it before. Although it's rare to rise as high as a HC with a record as a micromanager.

He's get to do something so he can take a step back - and that's hard to do when he's calling the offense.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Question for the forum - do McVay and Shanahan call the plays for the Rams and Niners, respectively? What about Campbell in Detroit and Johnson in Chicago? I'm just curious.

Campbell certainly has a heavy hand in Detroit's offense. MLF calls the offense, and I'm wondering how common/uncommon this is for a HC.

Thanks all!

 

[rmontro]

Well I guess Ed Policy disagrees with me. And to his credit, MLF has won a lot of games. Playoff record is pretty dismal. That's something we'd all like to see change.

To be clear, I was (and am) against keeping MLF. He has won a lot of games, but his record is considerably less impressive without Rodgers. Having a HOF quarterback on your team makes your job a lot easier. Hopefully MLF proves me wrong.