Matt extended

[Half Empty]

The Patriots are a jugernaut? LOL, you’d have to explain your definition there.

Well, they're leading in a game to make them one of the two best teams in the AFC

 

[Half Empty]

Trade deadline has past folks

Of course, 2025's. Just saying the only way to be able to sign him (and this, highly unlikely) is to Franchise this UFA and trade him later.

 

[AKCheese]

Of course, 2025's. Just saying the only way to be able to sign him (and this, highly unlikely) is to Franchise this UFA and trade him later.

I saw something somewhere that Rodgers season contract is now up so he could convievably

Well, they're leading in a game to make them one of the two best teams in the AFC

my personal definition of jugernaut would be a bit more lofty than that LOL

 

[adambr2]

So any team that wins a Super Bowl is a juggernaut… gotcha

Sure, whatever you wanna call it. Clearly all you’re here to do is to argue any point with anyone who tries to make one like you’ve been doing nonstop for the last hour so go do your thing.

 

[AKCheese]

Words matter …. Thats what are posted here. Jugernaut? Oh…. Are we all here to agree with each other? I’m sorry… I didn’t get the memo. LOL

 

[adambr2]

Words matter …. Thats what are posted here. Jugernaut? Oh…. Are we all here to agree with each other? I’m sorry… I didn’t get the memo. LOL

My only point was that Elliot Wolf has done a hell of job in New England, and they’ve currently got a better team than we’ve seen in Green Bay in at least the last 4 seasons.

I didn’t know that it was going to devolve into a debate about the dictionary definition of the word “juggernaut.”

 

[DABIGZ]

Words matter …. Thats what are posted here. Jugernaut? Oh…. Are we all here to agree with each other? I’m sorry… I didn’t get the memo. LOL

Hey man if you like losing 5 straight to limp into the playoffs two years in a row, then get pantsed by our biggest rival this current season… Then thats your opinion!

You’re right, I don’t agree with it, but it’s you opinion!

 

[adambr2]

I saw results of a poll yesterday. I believe it was the Milwaukee Journal. 52% to keep MLF and 39% to part with him. The rest had no opinion.

Folks at ESPN Milwaukee feel differently.

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[pacmaniac]

I saw a Facebook post a week ago from a woman who posted “who cares about the games, hell yes he should be back!”, which was agreed with by other women in the thread.

Nothing says “we’re a serious franchise” more than half our fanbase placing “eye candy” higher on the head coach qualification list than “does job well.”

I didn't know sculpted eyebrows were hot.

 

[milani]

Why is it that New England can turn a total dumpster fire with numerous holes into a powerful juggernaut overnight, and we have to hear “hang on! Be patient! Youngest team in the NFL! Growing and developing!” for like 5 years.

Great organization and a good coach.

 

[Pugger]

Think the women like MLF?

I guess he's kinda cute. But who cares what your HC looks like? You want someone who can coach and not model for GQ.

 

[OldSchool101]

17th out of 32 in what? Because he was 2nd in QB rating and 6th in QBR.

Or is this just one of those examples of people using statistics to paint whatever narrative they want?

Yeah this happens quite a bit. Jordan went on the road into Soldier field and proceeded to lash Chicago to the tune of 21-3. It took a historic level comeback just to barely Win.

Jordan didn’t pull a CJ Stroud here. Very few QB’s if any could’ve overcame what we endured in the second half at Chicago.

 

[milani]

Yeah this happens quite a bit. Jordan went on the road into Soldier field and proceeded to lash Chicago to the tune of 21-3. It took a historic level comeback just to barely Win.

Jordan didn’t pull a CJ Stroud here. Very few QB’s if any could’ve overcame what we endured in the second half at Chicago.

If Jordan had the Texan defense and the Texan kicker he is playing in Seattle this week.

 

[Magooch]

Now in 2025, the Packers collapse again. 25 points in the 4th quarter, missed FGs and Extra Points, lack of adjustment at halftime. The Packers chose to extend Lafleur rather than moving on from him. Losses like that are not simply forgotten.

There is a psychological element here. There have been too many late-game collapses under Lafleur. I have no confidence that it will change. But the Packers don't want to take chances and they have not sniffed a SB for the last 15 years.

Unfortunately that is my fear. Yes, the players seem to largely back LaFleur, but that kind of thing sticks with you. I'm sure we will come back healthy and field a competitive team next year but if we make the postseason and all the chips are down, don't be surprised if that loss rears its ugly head again for many of the players...

I think behind the scenes the Packers got outbid for Harbo which is why MLF is still here.

Another possibility is that other teams were interested in trading for MLF, but didn't offer the high draft picks that many on this forum thought he was worth.

Yeah, the whole thing doesn't really add up at all to me.
Based on the reporting we have heard...
- Matt's getting a big pay raise
- Matt's getting a "multi-year contract"
- Matt's not required to fire any of his assistant
- The "hierarchy" or "power structure" remains the same - he reports direct to the president, not to the GM
- Gute is getting his extension, too

So basically, by all accounts...we took a week to "negotiate" and more or less came out with what appears to basically be no changes, save for a raise for MLF?

It feels to me like either:
1. The team was pursuing other options (Harbaugh, trade, etc) but couldn't get a deal done, didn't get good enough offers, etc. and after dragging on for a while started to get cold feet and more or less chose to just meet Matt's demands at that point
2. The team pretty much always intended to extend with Matt, didn't really have any major issues in negotiations, but decided to wait a few days before letting the news get out to try and save face a bit

I dunno, just smells fishy..

 

[DoURant]

It feels to me like either:
1. The team was pursuing other options (Harbaugh, trade, etc) but couldn't get a deal done, didn't get good enough offers, etc. and after dragging on for a while started to get cold feet and more or less chose to just meet Matt's demands at that point
2. The team pretty much always intended to extend with Matt, didn't really have any major issues in negotiations, but decided to wait a few days before letting the news get out to try and save face a bit

I dunno, just smells fishy

I'll take door #2

 

[tripleguy]

We had a dud of a second half. All I'm suggesting is we had opportunities in certain down and distance situations to bring in Willis for a play. The Bears defense would have to adjust and Malik's mobility and running ability would have caused problems. Not taking away from Love but we sucked in the 2nd half.

 

[AKCheese]

My only point was that Elliot Wolf has done a hell of job in New England, and they’ve currently got a better team than we’ve seen in Green Bay in at least the last 4 seasons.

I didn’t know that it was going to devolve into a debate about the dictionary definition of the word “juggernaut.”

He’s clearly done a good job. To me (because I understand the meaning of words) a juggernaut is a team that is clearly head and shoulders above all others, virtually unstoppable. If that wasn’t your point… fair enough. I wouldn’t mind seeing the Patriots win it all (just to **** off the Patriot/Brady haters). I also wouldn’t mind seeing Davante get a ring, and as a former season ticket holder and WA resident I’m fine with the She-hawks winning it all except for putting up with one of my golf buddies who is an insufferable **** and will probably crow about them being a juggernaut. I can’t stand Payton. Can’t help but think that Karma caught up with him over bounty gate LOL

 

[AKCheese]

Hey man if you like losing 5 straight to limp into the playoffs two years in a row, then get pantsed by our biggest rival this current season… Then thats your opinion!

You’re right, I don’t agree with it, but it’s you opinion!

Very odd that you would come to that conclusion. Why on earth would anyone “like” that if they were a Packer fan?

 

[chemist]

Now that he's staying, this organization has to do everything in it's power to get Mike McDaniel in the building. This offense needs fresh ideas especially in the run game and that man has em. He is the perfect compliment to MLF, given his background in Shanahan's system. Icing on the cake is that MLF could finally hand over play calling duties to an equally talented mind so that he can finally focus on the nuances of game day coaching - clock management and making in-game adjustments.

Under no circumstances is Adam Stenavich allowed to return as OC.

Much misery to drown oneself in this year. If you want to keep yourself from suffering the same fate again next year there is one simple solution. Lower your expectations. Set the bar low enough so that no matter what happens you might have a chance to extract some Joy from next season instead of feeling like hell

 

[adambr2]

He’s clearly done a good job. To me (because I understand the meaning of words) a juggernaut is a team that is clearly head and shoulders above all others, virtually unstoppable. If that wasn’t your point… fair enough. I wouldn’t mind seeing the Patriots win it all (just to **** off the Patriot/Brady haters). I also wouldn’t mind seeing Davante get a ring, and as a former season ticket holder and WA resident I’m fine with the She-hawks winning it all except for putting up with one of my golf buddies who is an insufferable **** and will probably crow about them being a juggernaut. I can’t stand Payton. Can’t help but think that Karma caught up with him over bounty gate LOL

Yeah my winning preferences are Rams, Patriots, Seahawks, Broncos, in that order.

My only hang up on the Patriots is that Boston sports fans are beyond spoiled and I cannot believe after all their years of success and FINALLY having to hit bottom and rebuild they’re right back up again this quickly.

 

[Half Empty]

Words matter …. Thats what are posted here. Jugernaut? Oh…. Are we all here to agree with each other? I’m sorry… I didn’t get the memo. LOL

What's your definition?

 

[Half Empty]

So any team that wins a Super Bowl is a juggernaut… gotcha

Certainly in the year they win it, they're much more a juggernaut than 31 other teams.

 

[Firethorn1001]

McDermott getting fired for basically doing what MLF has done isn't going to help the anti-MLF's crowd blood pressure.

 

[milani]

McDermott getting fired for basically doing what MLF has done isn't going to help the anti-MLF's crowd blood pressure.

I think McDermott had one more year on MLF.

 

[Pugger]

If Jordan had the Texan defense and the Texan kicker he is playing in Seattle this week.

I do think Houston's OL was a mess and got pushed around quite a bit. Donno how Jordan would have survived that onslaught.