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[OldSchool101]

Much of this sentiment is not only accurate, it’s well deserved.

My only reservation is that there’s a group of players in place that I believe are superbowl worthy. As much as Gary slipped down the stretch, he’s actually a good Edge2 when there’s an Elite guy across from him. Maybe we can work with him around $5-10mil less annual on a short restructure giving him another year of security. Might also be a year to scrape $11mil etc and walk away and put Lukas opposite Micah with Cox jr filling in meantime.

While Jordan isn’t top 5, I do have him as a Top 10 QB and he’s still improving. Plenty good to carry us deep if we had a better D and Teams. He does need 1 or 2 upgrades at OL this isn’t fair to him or Josh Jacobs. Fix it.

I’d hate to break up the band and switching Head Coaches is almost always a down year for teams. We’d be waiting until 2027 to see what happens and there’s still a legit chance if we get some players back and add 3-4 upgrades (or noticeable player growth) we can be formidable.

 

[Packphin]

Now that he's staying, this organization has to do everything in it's power to get Mike McDaniel in the building. This offense needs fresh ideas especially in the run game and that man has em. He is the perfect compliment to MLF, given his background in Shanahan's system. Icing on the cake is that MLF could finally hand over play calling duties to an equally talented mind so that he can finally focus on the nuances of game day coaching - clock management and making in-game adjustments.

Under no circumstances is Adam Stenavich allowed to return as OC.

 

[DoURant]

If Josh wants a SB, he should leave the bills for a coach who can get him to the big game.
Some coaches are exceptional, some are good and lucky, and some are just unlucky.
Buffalo's been given the opportunity but for some reason can't get it done.

Yet Josh had 4 turnovers yesterday

 

[AKCheese]

Yet Josh had 4 turnovers yesterday

Coaches fault

 

[adambr2]

Now that he's staying, this organization has to do everything in it's power to get Mike McDaniel in the building. This offense needs fresh ideas especially in the run game and that man has em. He is the perfect compliment to MLF, given his background in Shanahan's system. Icing on the cake is that MLF could finally hand over play calling duties to an equally talented mind so that he can finally focus on the nuances of game day coaching - clock management and making in-game adjustments.

Under no circumstances is Adam Stenavich allowed to return as OC.

Stenavich should be coaching the O-line, that’s what he was really, really good at.

I don’t know if OC in Green Bay is anything more than a figurehead, because our HC is a micromanager who can’t delegate.

 

[JoePack]

Yet Josh had 4 turnovers yesterday

Yet in OT 2 receivers dropped perfectly thrown balls to an area where the bills could have won.
Really has to be mind-boggling why Josh and team are unable to get to the SB

 

[Half Empty]

If Josh wants a SB, he should leave the bills for a coach who can get him to the big game.
Some coaches are exceptional, some are good and lucky, and some are just unlucky.
Buffalo's been given the opportunity but for some reason can't get it done.

From what I've read, Allen contributed four turnovers in a game that went to OT. I'd say he's every bit as responsible for not getting to the big game as anything the coach did or didn't do.

Sorry, I didn't see all the other similar posts before entering mine.

 

[Half Empty]

“We” are not ENTITLED to anything other than peoples best effort.

Totally agree. When 'we' get that, a lot of the *****ing will stop.

 

[DoURant]

Yet in OT 2 receivers dropped perfectly thrown balls to an area where the bills could have won.
Really has to be mind-boggling why Josh and team are unable to get to the SB

I agree, they have a dangerous team every year, but can't get over the hump...i.e. Packers. However, with better ball security, this game should have never made it to OT. That fumble in the last 10 seconds before halftime was a free 3 pts for Denver.

 

[JoePack]

I agree, they have a dangerous team every year, but can't get over the hump...i.e. Packers. However, with better ball security, this game should have never made it to OT. That fumble in the last 10 seconds before halftime was a free 3 pts for Denver.

Well, I don't think we Packer fans should criticize to much with our collapse this year and I just can't get that collapse at the Seahawks yrs ago out of my head plus a few others.
At least we've won 4 out of 5. Better than losing 4 with no wins. Gee, who could that be?

 

[DoURant]

At least we've won 4 out of 5. Better than losing 4 with no wins. Gee, who could that be?

It's always feels good to have tasted victory in the Super Bowl, and it leaves you with a yearning to have more. The Vikings are 0-4, no appearances since the 70's, and the Lions having never made it to even one proves how difficult it is. As for the Bears, they haven't won in 40 years, and only one appearance since... a loss to the Colts. I sure hope the Rams knock off the Bears today, I don't want them to be one game from making it to another.

 

[Poppa San]

I think behind the scenes the Packers got outbid for Harbo which is why MLF is still here.

 

[pacmaniac]

Welcome to the NFL. Once again it will be the team that is healthy and playing well at the end of the year. This year neither of those were us. “We” are not ENTITLED to anything other than peoples best effort. For those who want to give up?… adios

Injuries is no excuse for us losing our wild card game. The 49ers had just as many injuries and still knocked off the defending champions.

 

[pacmaniac]

I think behind the scenes the Packers got outbid for Harbo which is why MLF is still here.

Another possibility is that other teams were interested in trading for MLF, but didn't offer the high draft picks that many on this forum thought he was worth.

 

[McKnowledge]

Looking at the comments I understand both extremes and everything in between.

I think it was a domino effect.

Harbaugh already negotiated terms with the Giants and got a lot of power and authority he would've never gotten in Green Bay.

Once that deal was in place, the rest of the coaching cycle falls into place with only 5 open spots left (Stefanski goes to Atlanta).

I think Harbaugh has the cache and reputation to build a culture and put people in the right positions to succeed.

He's a CEO, which MLF WILL have to become if he wants to remain HC.

The extension is only that, extending the inevitable, unless MLF makes internal changes.

He needs to evolve, take the losses as lessons and go from there.

 

[adambr2]

Looking at the comments I understand both extremes and everything in between.

I think it was a domino effect.

Harbaugh already negotiated terms with the Giants and got a lot of power and authority he would've never gotten in Green Bay.

Once that deal was in place, the rest of the coaching cycle falls into place with only 5 open spots left (Stefanski goes to Atlanta).

I think Harbaugh has the cache and reputation to build a culture and put people in the right positions to succeed.

He's a CEO, which MLF WILL have to become if he wants to remain HC.

The extension is only that, extending the inevitable, unless MLF makes internal changes.

He needs to evolve, take the losses as lessons and go from there.

Nothing about the way the Packers operate makes me think that MLF needs to do anything differently at all to remain the HC. What has he learned? Why hasn’t he been applying those lessons learned already? He’s had 7 seasons, not 2.

He literally just:
- Lost 5 games in a row to finish the 2025 season

- Choked away a 18 point lead to his archrivals in the playoffs just weeks after choking away a different double digit late lead to the same team on the same field in the regular season.

- Hasn’t finished above the 7 seed the last 4 seasons.

- Was rewarded for everything above with a multi year commitment and big raise.

What reason do I possibly have at this point to believe that 1) next season will be different, and 2) there will be any accountability at all if it in fact isn’t different?

 

[Pugger]

Nothing about the way the Packers operate makes me think that MLF needs to do anything differently at all to remain the HC. What has he learned? Why hasn’t he been applying those lessons learned already? He’s had 7 seasons, not 2.

He literally just:
- Lost 5 games in a row to finish the 2025 season

- Choked away a 18 point lead to his archrivals in the playoffs just weeks after choking away a different double digit late lead to the same team on the same field in the regular season.

- Hasn’t finished above the 7 seed the last 4 seasons.

- Was rewarded for everything above with a multi year commitment and big raise.

What reason do I possibly have at this point to believe that 1) next season will be different, and 2) there will be any accountability at all if it in fact isn’t different?

Anybody can get canned. Just ask John Harbaugh or Doug Pederson.

I wish I could have been a fly on the wall and eavesdropped on these negotiations.

 

[McKnowledge]

Nothing about the way the Packers operate makes me think that MLF needs to do anything differently at all to remain the HC. What has he learned? Why hasn’t he been applying those lessons learned already? He’s had 7 seasons, not 2.

He literally just:
- Lost 5 games in a row to finish the 2025 season

- Choked away a 18 point lead to his archrivals in the playoffs just weeks after choking away a different double digit late lead to the same team on the same field in the regular season.

- Hasn’t finished above the 7 seed the last 4 seasons.

- Was rewarded for everything above with a multi year commitment and big raise.

What reason do I possibly have at this point to believe that 1) next season will be different, and 2) there will be any accountability at all if it in fact isn’t different?

There IS no reason to think otherwise.

The Packer's leadership chose the known over the unknown, which is their choice.

We're all fans of the Packers so we either continue being fans or we don't.

I'm just giving my opinion what MLF needs to do if his goal is to win a championship.

I personally question if that's the main objective of many in the organization.

This is a business after all, and business is going very well.

 

[McKnowledge]

Anybody can get canned. Just ask John Harbaugh or Doug Pederson.

I wish I could have been a fly on the wall and eavesdropped on these negotiations.

Doug Pederson would've been a great candidate.

Ties to the organization that won the chip.

Super Bowl winning coach.

Would be an excellent OC if ego wasn't involved.

That would definitely light a fire under MLF.

 

[JoePack]

So could we trade Malik to the broncos for a 1st round pick?

 

[chemist]

Does he do things that make me pull my hair out? Yes. Will those things continue to happen? Would have to say yes until there is evidence to the contrary. But it is what it is and I'm not going to lose any passion for watching the Packers on Sundays nor am I going to expend energy being upset about it because not a darn thing that I can do.

Would we all like runs like the Chiefs/Patriots have had? Of course. But let's not pretend like we have some sole possession of misery in the NFL for fan bases.

A very well thought out post. Your main point about every team having their dark times is accurate.
How about the bills of the 90's led by jim kelly going to 4 straight SB's and losing every one. Kelly's famous quote sticks in my mind when he said there are only 2 things in the NFL,winning and misery. So true.
How about the eagles of 2023 starting the season 10-1 and then losing their last 5 of 6 and end up going nowhere. A collosal collapse of epic proprtions.
The phrase its always darkest before the dawn comes to mind. The very next year the eagles rise from the ashes and win the SB. Go figure!

I think for us GB fans the frustration is very high right now, which happens any time expectations arent met. We have a very talented team so we expected a great season but we were held back, somewhat due to injuries and somewhat due to poor leadership and head scratching decisions by our HC that led to several losses that should have been wins.
MLF is coming back. Nothing we can do about it. Have to accept what we have and move on.

 

[Half Empty]

So could we trade Malik to the broncos for a 1st round pick?

First, sign him to the franchise tag of $40+M and then see

 

[AKCheese]

First, sign him to the franchise tag of $40+M and then see

Trade deadline has past folks

 

[El Guapo]

I was going to post this: "A lot of people are posting on here that know only ONE thing...that LaFleur got extended. Until we know more about what (if any) conditions Policy put on the extension, it's a premature discussion."

Then I saw this: https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/...t-lafleur-isnt-required-to-make-staff-changes

 

[JoePack]

Trade deadline has past folks

But if we could've traded .MLF and got a draft pick?