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Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by FrankRizzo, Mar 12, 2014.

  1. Croak

    Croak Terminally twisted.

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    Since when has the salary cap stopped the Broncos. Does anyone remember that they were over the cap they year they won the Super Bowl against the Packers. All they got was a slap on the wrist by the NFL powers that be.
     
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  2. FrankRizzo

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    HAHA... these teams are still so stupid, thinking they can add talent now instead of waiting til May and drafting college kids! You are supposed to keep your own players, and then draft guys like Terrell Manning, Jerron McMillian, Jerel Worthy with your 2nd, 3rd, 4th round picks and teach em up! Not draft NFL-proven, ready players who have been tainted on other teams already!

    Teddy laughs at you San Francisco, Seattle, and New England!

    Free agent DT Henry Melton visiting Seattle
    Report: Browner close to deal with Patriots
    Julian Edelman visiting San Fran on Friday
     
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  3. AZpackerbacker

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    Why even play this season?......Broncos have already won the SB...just like Philadelphia did when they loaded up a couple of years ago.....and Washington.....
     
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  4. ivo610

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    Last year the cries were about Steven Jackson and how doomed we were when we didn't get him
     
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  5. ivo610

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    Give me a healthy team and a year of growth from our younger guys and well beat anyone
     
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  6. FrankRizzo

    FrankRizzo Cheesehead

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    Some fans here are in such denial, so defensive.

    Think about this: Since the magical Super Bowl January run (beating Vick, Ryan, Cutler to make Super Bowl), we have not won a single playoff game. Yes we beat the Joe Webb Minnesota Vikings, who were a horrible team as we have seen before that fluke season and since that season.

    We went from that 2011 great first 3 months of record-nearing offense, with these weapons:
    Jermichael, Jones, Driver, Jordy, Cobb, Jennings, to now just two of these six guys.
    And the defense is worse now, and no holes have been filled in free agency with upgrades.
    You think just magic is going to make the defense better?
    Who are the safeties?
    Burnett is not very good, and he's our only one.
    The ILB's are subpar.

    How does TT draft those positions?
    Traded up for Terrell Manning 3 years ago.
    Drafted Jarron McMillian 3 years ago.
    Gave Capers MD Jennings and McMillian to work with.
    Capers best option at ILB was a 7th round OLB, Brad Jones.

    If you are really buying his 100% Draft & Develop theory, thinking it's okay to not add pieces like Charles Woodson, Ryan Pickett via free agency, yet you still expect this team to suddenly change it's course downwards, all by his drafting, you are sorely mistaken.

    His drafting is barely above-average. I'd grade his last 5 years of drafts as a flat 'B' grade.
    When you get an 'F' in free agency, you have to draft as an 'A'.

    There were a handful of safeties available in free agency who would have been A) affordable and B) instant UPGRADES over our current stable of safeties.
    He didn't do it, and I'd love to see Capers follow Kevin Greene's lead and walk away.

    You ask a chef to prepare a good meal but keep providing him generic crappy ingredients?
    Face it, our Super Bowl win was great, and enough joy to last a long time.
    And it's going to have to do that because until Thompson drafts much better, or fills a few holes with proven talent via free agency, there's no way in hell this team is going to improve enough to catch and pass the premiere teams.

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  7. FrankRizzo

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    THOMPSON LISTENED

    PEPPERS
     
  8. ExpatPacker

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    I'll be darned.
     
  9. FrankRizzo

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    http://nfl.si.com/2014/03/15/julius-peppers-signs-green-bay-packers/

    Not only FANS, but McCarthy, Capers, and Kevin Greene.

    The TT-lovers who bought into the 100% Draft strategy, who say Free Agency is risky, well so is the draft.

    Justin Harrell
    Jerel Worthy
    Terrell Manning
    Pat Lee
    Jaron McMillian

    These guys were all drafted from rounds 1-3, and were gambles..... none ever provided anything good, and they got money.

    Projecting collegians into the NFL is less scientific and more of a gamble than a guy in the NFL from one team to another.

    This was a great move by Thompson.
    And this move is a credit to those of you who had been advocating utilizing free agency to add some proven veteran talent.
     
  10. AZpackerbacker

    AZpackerbacker Cheesehead

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    FIRE TT>>>>>>>>FIRE TT !!!!!.....He knows nothing about running an NFL team!.....He can't draft.....he won't sign FAs.......Any one of us could run the team and get them to the SB every year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    *Please note that this is SARCASM....... The panic button is getting worn out

    Everything in life and football is pretty much a gamble.....some are reckless with it, some are cautious.....this I do not deny.
     
  11. Raptorman

    Raptorman Vikings fan since 1966.

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    Found another source for you. If this is right, the Broncos will have $44 million in cap space next year. http://overthecap.com/calculator/?Team=Broncos
     
  12. ivo610

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    "We haven't won a playoff game since we won the Super Bowl! Except for they one we won" lol. Wouldn't it be easier to just say we only won one Playoff game since we won the SB?

    It's sad when packer fans go out of their way to discredit success the team has had.
     
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  13. Einstein McFly

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    Every GM has misses. Look at the bears for the last many years. TT also has some hits that you left out, including the best QB in the game, two of the best defenders in GB in a decade (CM3 and Collins) and maybe the best UDFA pick up in the league right now (maybe I'm forgetting someone, let me know if I am) in Sam Shields.


    Except this isn't efficient because of the higher cost for FAs and the amount of uncertainty regarding how they practice, what the coaches were calling on the plays and what the teammates around them were doing. Teams that try to build mostly with FA pickups end up with over priced guys that kill their cap. See the bills, redskins, etc. Also, see the bears who just had to cut Peppers and are still going to pay him 8mil this year in dead cap money. It's a really, really inefficient way to run a team.



    I really hope so. The upside of this is huge. A guy that can make the plays he can could turn around these close games that we lose even if he disappears the rest of the time. It's up to Trgvac to get him to turn up when we need him.
     
  14. rodell330

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    And what makes you so sure? Osweiller. Or whatever his name is can come on and do what folk did in Philly . You can't assume they would suck because Manning went down. He's been learning from Manning two yrs now. We didn't have anyone being groomed by Rodgers when he wny down and had to bring back a guy who had been gone two yrs.
     
  15. rodell330

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    Lol great point. These guys on here fail to mention that tho.
     
  16. AmishMafia

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    Yep, Thompson listened to you. Hey, can you call Obama and have him repeal this whole healthcare thing?
     
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  17. AmishMafia

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    You should have mentioned:

    He drafted Sherrod in the first
    He Took Alex Green in the 3rd
    DJ Williams in the 5th

    AND he has not brought in any offensive FAs.

    So now explain why TT, and average drafter in your opinion, who has seldom used FA on offense, and yet the Packers still have on of the best offenses in the NFL.
     
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  18. Raptorman

    Raptorman Vikings fan since 1966.

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    Fixed it for you.
     
  19. adambr2

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    Devils advocate question here, but -- couldn't it be argued that as long as Rodgers is here, the Packers will always be a contender, regardless of their situation?

    Say for example the Packers make a huge few moves, win Super Bowl 50, and wind up going through salary cap hell by 2017. They keep Rodgers no matter what of course, so couldn't it be argued that even in a situation like that, they remain contenders and the ends justify the means?

    Just asking for the sake of debate. I think it could just as easily be argued that we followed that model in Favre's later years, and it led to the 4-12 season and 8-8 seasons of 2005 and 2006, so we know how that went. Though Favre didn't seem to have the ability to succeed in his later years regardless of his supporting cast like Brady seems to be able to do in New England.
     
  20. FrankRizzo

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    RODGERS, great receivers, and a smart offensive mind in McCarthy. Did I mention Rodgers?
    How'd the team, the talent, look last year without Rodgers again?

    Here's a reminder.
    And remember how horrible those Lions were down the stretch.
    This was the exception.
    Without Rodgers, we were as bad as anyone most weeks.

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  21. FrankRizzo

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    Please don't get me started..... but my state didn't have anything to do with that whole disaster.... yet it's affecting us. Not fair.
    Wisconsin on the other hand....

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  22. AmishMafia

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    Yeah, I remember. Rodgers was out and Flynn stepped in and had one of the biggest days of any QB in NFL history.



    Oh wait, that was the year before.


    Your point again? Why do the Packers have an amazing offense when TT sucks at drafting and they don't bring in FA?
     
  23. captainWIMM

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    Tony Romo, Arian Foster, Wes Welker and James Harrison all were UDFA.
     
  24. Pack....man!!!

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    I did whined some about not signing Byrd but the way the Broncos are throwing money around it can't be good for the future of the franchise.


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