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Just Heard on Scott Van Pelt Radio Show

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by Sandmire33, Jan 12, 2011.

  1. Sandmire33

    Sandmire33 Cheesehead

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    This is what bugs me about the media, SVP mentioned that Matt Ryan is 0-1 in the playoffs and his loss was at Arizona, and no one is mentioning him having a "monkey" on his back like Aaron Rodgers.... Oh yeah i've been reading the forum for awhile but this is my first post... What do you guys think of this?
     
  2. Forget Favre

    Forget Favre Cheesehead

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    We already weighed in on the monkey/back thing over here.....
    http://www.packerforum.com/f8/did-monkey-jump-off-rodgers-back-25764.html

    As for the Rodgers/Flynn match-up....
    I don't think we should be getting too cocky.
    Falcons have not lost a home game for a long time.
    They beat during the reg. season.
    Sure, Rodgers is 1-1 in playoffs and Ryan is 0-1. Those records are too close for comfort in my book.
    Rodgers and Flynn are not real time tested QBs, yet.

    I know that we are all riding real high right now and think our QB is the best since he just beat the Eagles.
    But let's also keep things in perspective.
     
  3. Sandmire33

    Sandmire33 Cheesehead

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    I know you weighed in on that, but it wasn't my point. My point was that Rodgers gets all this talk about him not being an elite quarterback until he does something in the playoffs, but watching and listening to these shows there is no mention of other quarterbacks that haven't done something in the playoffs. That tag of he isn't a great quarterback until doesn't happen for Ryan. I was wondering why he doesn't get the same treatment
     
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  4. Murgen

    Murgen MechaPackzilla

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    I have Peter Gabriel's "Shock the Monkey" song playing in my head now.

    Shock the Monkey!

    All I have to say about Rodgers, is Monkey, What Monkey!? Ooohhh, Your talking about the Farve 500lb gorilla on his back. Honestly, Rodgers doesn't feel that pressure. It's all media hype.
     
  5. Forget Favre

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    I dunno......
    As I mentioned: The Falcons haven't lost a home game for quite a while. And the Falcons have already beaten the Pack.
    The Pack lost a few this year. And they lost a few close games to worst teams, such as the Lions.
    So looking at it from the perspective of W/L records, Matt Ryan is the better one.
     
  6. Mushroom

    Mushroom Packer Owner/Shareholder

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    What does Flynn have to do with this?
     
  7. Forget Favre

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    Um......
    We're playing against him on Sat?
    And the OP was about comparing Flynn to Rodgers.
     
  8. DiGringo

    DiGringo Cheesehead

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    Um... Flynn is our 2nd string QB... I believe the man you're thinking of is Matt Ryan?
     
  9. nyghater

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    I don't think much of it quite frankly.
     
  10. ivo610

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    You guys lost me with the Flynn stuff but cutler has never even played in the playoffs so Ryan isn't the only one that should be questioned.
     
  11. gbpack12_2_89

    gbpack12_2_89 Bleeding Green and Gold

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    Why does everyone insist that the lions are a bad team? Really there not a bad team wait till next year, I will not like playing them anymore that's a fact.
     
  12. Murgen

    Murgen MechaPackzilla

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    Cutler is gonna be a turnover machine in the playoffs. That's my feeling.
     
  13. ivo610

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    look at the winning streak they went on at the end of the season. Plus I dont think one team had so many different starting QBs as they did this season.
     
  14. Forget Favre

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    Whoops!
    Yeah, your right. I meant Matt Ryan.
    We each have a Matt at QB.
    That's what threw me off.
     
  15. Forget Favre

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    Vikings?
    They had three.
     
  16. SpartaChris

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    The Falcons lost at home in week 16 against the Saints.

    The reason why Rodgers had this "Playoff monkey" on his back while Ryan and Cutler do not is because Rodgers put up such ungodly numbers in his first two seasons as a starter that people were already slapping him with the "Elite" and "MVP" labels. Neither Ryan nor Cutler has done as much to impress other players, coaches and fans as Rodgers has, and because perception is that Rodgers can't win in big games and can't come from behind, critics were quick to temper enthusiasm by slapping the "He has to win a playoff game first" moniker on him.

    Cutler and Ryan also didn't come out of the shadows to follow a future hall of fame QB, and arguably the most popular player in the history of the NFL like Rodgers did. Naturally Rodgers is going to be under more scrutiny and receive more criticism than either Ryan or Cutler.

    I tell you what though- If Matt Ryan winds up 0-2 in the playoffs (My hope) and Cutler winds up 0-1, you'll start to hear some people make some noise.
     
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    The way I see it the media holds Aaron Rodgers to a far higher standard than qbs like matt ryan, and I think he deserves it too.
     
  18. Forget Favre

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    There is tons, and I mean tons, of positive stuff said about Rodgers.
    Listen to the commentators during the games. Look for articles on google. Etc, etc.
    Pay attention to that instead of the negative stuff.
     
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    Powarun Big Bay Blues fan

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    Quit saying the Lions are a bad team, since they have improved so much the last few months. They put up more of a fight versus the Patriots than the Bears, almost always seem to be on the losing side of a bad call, and beat us. They finished 3rd in our division, and if you want to say thats any kind of accomplishment, then the Favre bowl wins this year, mean nothing, since the Lions > Vikes.

    Rodgers inherited Favre's role as QB of the Packers and he is doing great things, such great things others have to put him down to make other QB's look good. I can say Rodgers has been on fire the past two years, and it has been with an o-line that was like Swiss cheese, receivers that drop perfect passes, and not having a star running back.

    Ryan has a good running back to fall back on if he isn't doing well. Rodgers has had more than one game this season where he rushes more your yards than his running back.
     
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    What do you mean?
    They lost at home 2 games ago, to the same Saints who just lost to Seattle.
    What does "quite a while" mean to you?

    Anyway, I get your point. Matt Ryan hasn't ever won a playoff game. They were big favorites in Arizona 2 years ago and laid an egg.
    Rodgers first playoff game was also at Arizona, and Rodgers started the game with an Int, and ended it with a fumble-6 loser in OT. But he played prettier in the middle than Ryan did. I get your drift..... Ryan should be facing some heat. Let's hope we make him face that same heat for the next 365 days after Saturday night !!!!!
     
  21. GreenGoldAngel

    GreenGoldAngel Banned Banned

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    Falcons lost a home game on 12-17-2910. Is that a long time ago?
     
  22. Cheesehead Brittany

    Cheesehead Brittany Cheesehead

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    thats deep into the future :p
     
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  23. arrimike

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    That is not that long ago because... it hasn't happened yet! Haha.
    I think the date you are thinking of is 12/27/2010, and no, that is not the long ago. :suicide:
     
  24. GreenGoldAngel

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    LMAO...need to edit...2010 ...excuse me
     
  25. ThorMatthews

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    Don't worry I screen capped, and archived it for the future, your prediction will be brought to light!
     

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