It's been kind of quiet for a few days.......

[OldSchool101]

I think Gluten had limited choices to improve the pass rush this offseason. There were no big FA signings, although a few were discussed (Garrett, Crosby, Hendrickson), and Gluten opted to focus on the offense to start the draft (and in FA)

We still have Cap available to add someone that pops up. I noticed Christian Wilkins was just cut from The Raiders. He signed a 4yr X 110M with the last Regime that got fired. They are in a contract dispute as 50% was guaranteed and $35Mil is on the hook.

He’s just an example of how players are popping in and out of available options in season. I would imagine Brian might be looking for outside help if it’s week 6 or 7 and nobody is standing out etc.

 

[Calebs Revenge]

I mean.....hate da message......but luv da shirt and vibe.

 

[Voyageur]

I thought this little bit might interest people.

No offense Caleb. You gotta laugh or you end up crying.

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[Calebs Revenge]

See that's what nobody understands. I've been crying for 35 years.....and now Ben Johnson just handed me some tissues and said it's gonna be all right..........

 

[Wojak]

so excited for the cowboys to dominate! This is our year

 

[Voyageur]

so excited for the cowboys to dominate! This is our year

The Cowboys will be lucky to win 8 games this year. I predict 7. I wouldn't get too giddy if I was you. Until Jerry Jones realizes he's a horrible GM and hands the job to someone who understands how it works, they're going to be mediocre at best. In week 4, if I recall correctly, the Packers visit Dallas. In late September. That could add to the string of losses that goes back nearly 10 years to the Packers. If that happens, Jones will come unglued and forget he's the one who is the architect of their successes and failures, blaming it on the coaching staff and players. It's how Jerry works.

 

[milani]

What's exciting about the overall strength of the teams in the North are the games they play against each other. The Bearz and Lions have been perennial doormats and the Packers and Queens have generally been the best teams.

That's all been turned upside down with the emergence of the Lions. The Queens won a lot of games last year, but Darnold was exposed when the playoffs began. Now they have an untested talent at QB. The Bearz seem to have a great QB, and this offseason the team made many changes to support him. And for GB, everything is riding on the emergence of Love as a top 5 QB in the NFL.

So yeah, it makes for an exciting season.

I am still of the " Old School " that defense wins championships as it did for the Eagles last season. Will there be a Butkus, a Nitschke, an Alex Karras, or a Jim Marshall that show up in the NFC North?

 

[milani]

so excited for the cowboys to dominate! This is our year

So is Jerry!

 

[Raptorman]

Yes. I know it’s not perfect science but I like to project by addition and subtraction. The biggest question mark for me is when changing QB, HC, or Coordinators. Coach Hafley is lightning in a bottle, but let’s be real, everyone knew GB has lots of talent on D that was being misused by former DC’s.

For teams surviving the onslaught of seasonal changes, then there’s player losses and player additions. I like to research those players usage. Losing a guy who played 35% snaps is not the same as losing a guy with 90% snaps etc.

the Packers have the most continuity from last season in the North. Minnesota is the only other comparable, but the 1 key position change at QB puts them in speculative territory. Especially when the predecessor played Probowl type level last season. That’s just too much to ask of a 1st yr starter to bypass a multi year veteran like Cousins or Darnold’s 102.5% rating.

MN needs between 40-45 TD's this year to stay competitive. The QB doesn't need a 100+ rating. The mid-90s will do. 35-12 would be a good TD/INT ratio as far as I'm concerned. I'm expecting our defense to pick up where it left off last year, and even improve. 16 ppg on defense sure would help out that young QB. But we shall see. I also expect a loss in the first game against the Bears.

 

[Calebs Revenge]

I really think the Bears might do it. Caleb on good contract 3-4 more years. We'll win a chip. Could be a dynasty.

 

[Calebs Revenge]

Y'all need to remember this name too......
Luther.
Thats all I'm gonna say.......for now.

 

[Voyageur]

Y'all need to remember this name too......
Luther.
Thats all I'm gonna say.......for now.

Burden? He could be a solid addition to the Bears. Jury still out but has the credentials from college to show he has potential.

 

[Thirteen Below]

Burden? He could be a solid addition to the Bears. Jury still out but has the credentials from college to show he has potential.

I follow news from other North Division camps, and word is he's having a very good camp.

I expect him to ba a player. He was probably the WR I most wanted in April, but that was because I never expected Golden to still be there at #23. Between the two of them, I like the one we got. But that doesn't mean I expect Burden to be a bust, by any means. I think they'll both have good careers.

 

[Voyageur]

I follow news from other North Division camps, and word is he's having a very good camp.

I expect him to ba a player. He was probably the WR I most wanted in April, but that was because I never expected Golden to still be there at #23. Between the two of them, I like the one we got. But that doesn't mean I expect Burden to be a bust, by any means. I think they'll both have good careers.

Based on what I've seen, I think Golden is a better option. Golden is faster, Burden clocking about a 4.41 at the combine. I think, with gear on, after watching both in game action, that Golden's speed translates into more speed in game situations. I think Golden's a better receiver myself.

I have a hunch that if Golden wasn't on the board when the Packers made their pick, they would have gone to a completely different position for a player. He was one of those players that you just can't afford to pass on, even if you have other needs more pressing.

 

[Thirteen Below]

I have a hunch that if Golden wasn't on the board when the Packers made their pick, they would have gone to a completely different position for a player. He was one of those players that you just can't afford to pass on, even if you have other needs more pressing.

We hit the lottery with this one.

Everything I have seen, heard, and read about Golden this summer makes me think the same thing every single time - "so this is what it looks like when you draft a wide receiver in the 1st round." It's a very rare occurrence, Green Bay going WR in Round 1, because for most of the last 30-some years we came to rely on first-ballot Hall of Fame quarterbacks to make average receivers great receivers. The last time we did it (Javon Walker), it wasn't really a great result.

In fact, Javon's first couple of years, he was so mediocre I believe it may have confirmed the front office's fear that drafting a wideout in the first was just too risky a gamble. After 2 tepid seasons, he decided it was the Packers' fault for not giving him a fair chance to succeed, so he decided to play diva and hold out. He eventually caved in, and had an All Pro 3rd season, tore an ACL in his 4th year, and was traded to Denver in his 5th. He played a couple of years there, a couple of unproductive seasons in Oakland, and in his 9th season he was cut from the Vikings' practice squad before the season opener.

I think an argument could at least be made that TT looked at that and decided that since we typically drafted in the last 1/3 or even 1/4, we were rarely going to be in a position to snag one of the truly elite WRs, so we would be better served by taking higher-value players at less glamorous positions. I'm not saying there were other players we should have taken at #20; maybe Deion Branch, but jeez, didn't seem to be all that much available at that spot at the time. Walker was defensibly the BPA at #20, but maybe we picked the wrong year to go WR in Round 1. 2002 was one of the weakest drafts I've ever seen.

 

[OldSchool101]

I think Golden was BPA at #23. It’s weird we totally got boxed out the year #9 was drafted. We package picks to move up hard to #34?
The more I see this kid I think he’s an easy Top20 selection and leaning more into that Top 10-15 area.

 

[Calebs Revenge]

I dunno.....watch da film.
Burton is a beast.....or a Monstah. Lol
The best thing is, he's gonna make DJ put 100% out there because if he doesn't Burton's gonna take his job.

 

[Calebs Revenge]

Burden? He could be a solid addition to the Bears. Jury still out but has the credentials from college to show he has potential.

My guy got dat RIZZ!!!!!!!

 

[Calebs Revenge]

BALLIN!!!!!!!
lol. I'm excited.
No one can argue that we're the best division in football and it's gonna be a slaughterhouse and I can't freaking wait!!!!

 

[Calebs Revenge]

We hit the lottery with this one.

Everything I have seen, heard, and read about Golden this summer makes me think the same thing every single time - "so this is what it looks like when you draft a wide receiver in the 1st round." It's a very rare occurrence, Green Bay going WR in Round 1, because for most of the last 30-some years we came to rely on first-ballot Hall of Fame quarterbacks to make average receivers great receivers. The last time we did it (Javon Walker), it wasn't really a great result.

In fact, Javon's first couple of years, he was so mediocre I believe it may have confirmed the front office's fear that drafting a wideout in the first was just too risky a gamble. After 2 tepid seasons, he decided it was the Packers' fault for not giving him a fair chance to succeed, so he decided to play diva and hold out. He eventually caved in, and had an All Pro 3rd season, tore an ACL in his 4th year, and was traded to Denver in his 5th. He played a couple of years there, a couple of unproductive seasons in Oakland, and in his 9th season he was cut from the Vikings' practice squad before the season opener.

I think an argument could at least be made that TT looked at that and decided that since we typically drafted in the last 1/3 or even 1/4, we were rarely going to be in a position to snag one of the truly elite WRs, so we would be better served by taking higher-value players at less glamorous positions. I'm not saying there were other players we should have taken at #20; maybe Deion Branch, but jeez, didn't seem to be all that much available at that spot at the time. Walker was defensibly the BPA at #20, but maybe we picked the wrong year to go WR in Round 1. 2002 was one of the weakest drafts I've ever seen.

Would you have drafted Rome if he was available??
Just curious.
If they were somehow in the same draft, who would you take?
Keep in mind right now he's our number two and if Burton does explode, maybe is our number three and God help y'all if DJ is our number three......

 

[Calebs Revenge]

Oh, I forgot to mention that Tom Grossi made a video about how the Packers might get Micah Parsons.....according to his agent, the Buccaneers are stop number one, but Da Bearssss are stop number two.
I think w/a rookie QB contract we could offer a little bit more...

 

[OldSchool101]

Oh, I forgot to mention that Tom Grossi made a video about how the Packers might get Micah Parsons.....according to his agent, the Buccaneers are stop number one, but Da Bearssss are stop number two.
I think w/a rookie QB contract we could offer a little bit more...

Actually you guys are in no position to be offering anything. Between ‘25 and ‘26 you guys have like $3Mil left across both seasons added together. That doesn’t even buy a Practice Squad.

 

[Voyageur]

Actually you guys are in no position to be offering anything. Between ‘25 and ‘26 you guys have like $3Mil left across both seasons added together. That doesn’t even buy a Practice Squad.

I think the Bears should pull the trigger on this one. Get Parsons in the fold and watch them return to the same problems they had under previous regimes. Put all their money into individual players and watch several positions deteriorate because of it. I think that for both the Bears and Packers, Parsons is a cap trap.

Oh, I forgot to mention that Tom Grossi made a video about how the Packers might get Micah Parsons.....according to his agent, the Buccaneers are stop number one, but Da Bearssss are stop number two.
I think w/a rookie QB contract we could offer a little bit more...

I'd love to see Parsons with the Bears. People may think that the one player addition is going to win championships but it's not. Parsons will not be a "magnet" to draw seasoned vets who are willing to take less just to play with him. Those days are in the rear-view mirror. The Reggie White type signings like the Packers had thanks to Wolf and Holmgren are a thing of the past. Now, it's all about the ring, as long as it includes millions of dollars more than anyone else offers but never sacrifice of money for the good of the team.

The last major shift, because of essentially one man, that I can recall is 2018 when the Bears signed Khalil Mack and went from 5-11 in 2017 to 12-4 in 2018. But they still were dumped in the wild card round by Philadelphia because the Bears offense was actually kind of pathetic at times, relying on Mack and the defense to get them in scoring position more often than their offense could.

The problem was that it was a one-hit-wonder season because in 2019 & 2020 they ended up 8-8 and then spiraled down into losing seasons after that. Parsons would create that same scenario, and the Bears brain trust would hopefully be smarter than that bunch. They had to shed talent by letting people go via free agency and not renewing contracts because the Mack deal had tied them in knots. They gave up two 1st round picks, a 3rd, and a 6th and signed him to what was the biggest contract out there at the time for 6-years and over $140 million. They ended up trading him in 4-years, pretty much admitting that contract was a big mistake because they lost so much talent across the board.

So, in synopsis, as a Packer fan, I'd prefer the Bears sign him over the Packers. I don't want a cap strapping contract on the Packers.

 

[Calebs Revenge]

Actually you guys are in no position to be offering anything. Between ‘25 and ‘26 you guys have like $3Mil left across both seasons added together. That doesn’t even buy a Practice Squad.

Oh, that's right because you can't manipulate the cap at all I forgot

 

[Calebs Revenge]

True, but I think everyone can agree. Caleb is much better than Mitch Trubisky and the last time we traded for a defensive player like this Khalil Mack..... the double doink in the playoffs and if we win the Philly game, who knows so I would not mind at all if we do the deal and I won't mind at all if we don't.
I'm not saying we could beat them, but I think we give them a he.ll of a ride....