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From Pacman to Packerman?

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by NYPacker, Apr 27, 2010.

  1. cyoung

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    I dont know about this, he got cut by the Cowboys (which is the #1 home for problems players and convicts) so you know he has issues.

    ...that aside he is a talented football player and if he shapes up could be worth somthing.
     
  2. NYPacker

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    EXACTLY! Jones literally can't come to the Packers because there's nowhere to make it rain!
     
  3. TheGiftedApe

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    If we brought him in, he would be the most unpopular guy in the locker room. It's not like hes going to come in day 1 and make it rain in the middle of OTA's. I would be glad to see TT bring him in as a PR/KR guy ONLY no DB work he is a horrible corner. I think he would learn fast that respect inthe packer lockerroom is earned by production, not by how many strippers you can make it rain on. It's not like TT is going to give him a 7 year 80 million dollar contract you guys lol.
     
  4. ivo610

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    [ame=http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3825329]Pacman Jones New Revelations - ESPN Video - ESPN[/ame]
     
  5. claybillings

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    He was not a horrible corner in his first 2 years I will tell you that. This guy was one of the fastest rising prospects in the league. Now I understand that was a bit ago, but if he could regain that type of dedication and skill, my god he would help us out a lot. Plus he is an excellent punt returner.
     
  6. SCpackerfan

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    This guy is washed up, period...he doesn't deserve the privilege, nay, the honor to wear green and gold. We've got some competent rookie pickups to handle the kickoff and punt return duties, so lets see where they take us.
     
  8. OldSchoolFan

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    The guy could not behave himself in 2 places...the only way the Packers could tame him is to chain him to the north end zone goal post at Lambeau field every night. Even then I think the goalpost would want to talk to the police the next morning....... The guy belongs in the slammer...or in Oakland with the rest of the convicts...........
     
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  9. ivo610

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    The last time he took one to the house was in 2006! He might have been good 4 years ago but that was a long time ago.
     
  10. Green_Bay_Packers

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    HAHAHAHA LOLZ!

    Thats a great post :D
     
  11. FrankRizzo

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    Adam Jones did behave himself in Dallas. He just didn't make any explosive plays.

    Let's not take the holy roller road here and pretend like we have no thugs on this team. Johnny Jolly has behaved just as bad as PackMan has the past 2 years. Plus Jolly is dumber than 2 boxes of rocks. Now he has 2 guys who are gonna take his job next year.

    As for Jones, let's be honest here: He has some rust. And like Ricky Williams when he toured the world smoking weed, then played (crappy I might add) in Canada.... Ricky eventually came back strong in the NFL. Pac has tons of talent, was worth a top 10 pick just 5 years ago. Hell, Al Harris was just starting his starting career 5-years in after we traded for him with Phily.

    Jones would instantly be our #3 CB, and #1 punt returner. And he'll sign for a minimum deal, won't cost any draft picks. There's no risk but a lot or possible reward.

    I agree with the few of you who have the ballz to welcome a gutsy move like this. We need playmakers.
     
  12. CM_Awesome

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    Your implying that Pacman Jones is better than Tramon Williams. That's just laughable. At best, Jones would be a Dime CB on this team. A Dime CB really isn't worth the trouble of taking a risk on this loser.

    He also wouldn't even be that great of a Punt Returner either. I'd rather have Shields, Dillon, or Blackmon do the Punt Returning.
     
  13. NYPacker

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    Frank you're still not answering my question, where would Pacman make it rain?
     
  14. 3irty1

    3irty1 Fear the Dreads!

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    Yeah we have plenty of depth at CB in order to stray away from "gutsy" moves like this.
     
  15. Pat4DaPack

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    As long as he stayed out of trouble im all for it.
     
  16. ivo610

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    Comparing Jollys situation to Pacmans is just showing how much you have followed the legal precedings of both.
     
  17. FrankRizzo

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    Al Harris is not going to be active for months.
    So:
    #1- Woodson
    #2- Tramon
    #3- PackMan

    Counting on Pat Lee, Jarrett Bush, Brandon Underwood, and Josh Bell would be about as smart as counting on OT Allen Barbre last year. And counting on Colledge to be the LT. How'd that all work out for us again?

    Just bring yourself back to the coverage you witnessed in Arizona, Pittsburgh, and twice vs Minny, and you tell me those guys know how to cover better than Jones, and if you're not honest with yourself, watch your nose grow.

    And get this: This has all happened with Woodson staying remarkably healthy. He missed tons of games before coming to Green Bay. What happens if he goes down? You gonna count on Tramon? Tramon isn't that good. He's decent as a nickelback, average at best as a #2 CB.

    Again, rewatch those 4 games last year, all with Woodson in it and 2 of em with Harris in it.
     
  18. FrankRizzo

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    How much PR success had Desmond Howard had in the previous 2-4 years before we got him from the Redskins?

    Packman has natural elite skills. That rust would come off.
    He's still young (young as Al Harris was when we traded with Philly to get him), and he's not had ACL or serious leg injuries.

    Who cares what he did in the past off the field. He's a new man now.
     
  19. Mack_20

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    I agree that he should get a shot, we really would have nothing to lose in this if it happens, which I highly doubt it will. I have never been a big fan of Pacman either, but his upside is and always has been high, and being as cheap as he will be, I say its worth a shot. People do grow up, and deserve a chance to prove they have.
     
  20. ivo610

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    How much did desmond have after?

    GB owes it to the city not to bring in someone who has strong gang ties. Who would take the hit if something happened? Of course Pacman would but so would the packers. There is NO chance they will even bring him in for a visit. All this comes from his agent calling the packers.
     
  21. CM_Awesome

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    What makes you think he is even better than Lee, Underwood, and Bell? He hasn't even played that much at all in the last 4 years. He couldn't even make the Winnipeg Blue Bombers. What makes you think the Packers are gonna touch this guy? TT wouldn't touch Pacman with a 10 foot pole. The guy is a virus. We aren't going to sign him so just get over it already.
     
  22. ivo610

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    Thank you
     
  23. FrankRizzo

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    Lee, Underwood, and Bell?
    This tremendous trio has never done anything good, period, in the NFL. We don't even know for a fact if they have it in them. Plus they're soft, fragile, fraile. Bell weighs about 155 ppounds. Lee can't stay healthy and only played 1 decent year in college.

    Pacman was a stud, drafted in the top ten because he was talented as hell.
    He took the NFL by storm and was a dangerous return specialist who proved his talent could translate into the league. Our 3 guys have proven nothing. You really are buying the kool-aid on these guys magically progressing into developing into solid NFL players?

    Don'y you remember them saying that to us about Breno and Barbre last year?

    Stop letting TT's justifying his own picks trick what your eyes have seen, or haven't seen yet.

    Regarding PacMan, I don't care what a thug he is. I remember the mid 90's when we lost a chance for 3 Super Bowls because the Cowboys had a bunch of thugs, but those damn thugs could play. I want Super Bowls period. Let the police handle any crimes that may occur, but let's be real here: Pacman is not gonna carjack you or pull any more stunts. The guy is a desperate player right now and like Ricky Williams, sometimes you gotta hit rock bottom to appreciate what you had.

    If he can get the rust off, PacMan is better than any CB that was just drafted, and he must still only be about 27, still very young. And the brother has dreads so he fits right in with Bigby, Harris, Tramon.

    Open your heart. A brother deserves a 2nd chance, and 1st in Green Bay.
    Koren Robinson had a bunch of chances. He didn't pan out in Green Bay has hoped, but what was the harm? No harm. Small salary, same with PacMan.
     
  24. Mack_20

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    I couldn't agree more with you and couldnt have written that better myself.. Great post!
     
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  25. NYPacker

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    I see where you're coming from in regards to Pat Lee. He has a lot of potential but we're never going to see that if he keeps staying on the IR list. IMO Lee is as much a bust as Justin Harrell and like Harrell, Lee will have to show what he's got this season or it's the waiver wire for him.

    I don't think that you're giving Brandon Underwood the benefit of the doubt. Yes he hasn't shown much in the NFL, but how can he if he's been only playing for 1 season? Towards the end and in the playoffs he's been vastly improving and he might be this year's surprise player. From what I see on tape, his awareness in space is much better and his ability to read the play in front of him is coming along. Just give him 1 offseason and you'll see what he can do. I'm not saying that he'll be a solid No. 1 corner but someone you can bring in if there's an injury to a starter.

    Now on to Pacman. You're absolutely right in that he should be given a second chance. Mike Vick was given a second chance and I think he did admirably. Did he become an instant playmaker? No, but he did well enough to show that he can be trusted? Definitely. So I think Pacman righteously deserves his own fair share as well.

    One thing I do have a problem with is that you said when he was drafted he took the NFL by storm. He is a solid Returner, no doubt about that but wasn't he drafted to play CORNER? The Titans loved his return abilities but hated his on the field performance. I know he had a solid 2nd year but none of suggests that he's a "superb" corner. And by definition if he isn't good enough to play his drafted position, wouldn't that make him a bust?

    Anyway before we all get too ahead of ourselves here the GBPG looked into this and found that no actual Packers personnel had contacted Jones. However Jones' agent called the Packers. The Packers meanwhile, never returned his phone calls. So there you go, when Pacman had been in contact with the Packers it meant that HE called THEM. And the fact that they never responded shows you how much interest we really have.
     

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