Favre > Rodgers > Love

[Pokerbrat2000]

I don't mean to mess up your imagery, but I think you drink ayahuasca, not smoke it.

Well that explains why things didn't stay dark for me!

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[Pokerbrat2000]

If it's a mandatory thing, he should be there. He apparently won't, so he'll be fined. This all seems reasonable to me.

As far as whatever this personal thing is, it's been stated above that he considers it more important that the minicamp, which is obviously true. Or rather, he considers the fines acceptable to do whatever this thing is.

Is it? I'm more no than yes. I don't know what the thing is. Another darkness retreat or similar? Seems foolish. A yoga/stretching/rehab expert that could extend his career 5 more, productive years? That might be worth it.

It shouldn't matter if it is the #1 guy on your roster or the #90 guy, nobody should put themselves above the team. Rodgers even said as much a few months ago.

The last time I checked, there weren't a lot of jobs that pay $45M/year, with a schedule that gives you quite a few months off to boot. A fine means nothing to Rodgers, its pocket change. What should mean something to him, is the message he himself is sending to his teammates by skipping out on a mandatory practice. Based on the NY Media reaction, he isn't scoring any points with the fans either.

Great player, so glad we are done with him.

 

[mradtke66]

It shouldn't matter if it is the #1 guy on your roster or the #90 guy, nobody should put themselves above the team. Rodgers even said as much a few months ago.

This reads like there is the assumption that whatever he's doing is worse for the team that whatever he's doing instead.

If he's ******** off, that's worse. No objection from me.

If he's doing a thing that will improve his health for the coming season and possibly future seasons, that sounds like doing something good for the team. Though I don't consider this a binary thing. It is very subjective.

 

[Heyjoe4]

If it's a mandatory thing, he should be there. He apparently won't, so he'll be fined. This all seems reasonable to me.

As far as whatever this personal thing is, it's been stated above that he considers it more important that the minicamp, which is obviously true. Or rather, he considers the fines acceptable to do whatever this thing is.

Is it? I'm more no than yes. I don't know what the thing is. Another darkness retreat or similar? Seems foolish. A yoga/stretching/rehab expert that could extend his career 5 more, productive years? That might be worth it.

That's a very balanced way of looking at it. Rodgers can't say he didn't know about the mandatory camp well in advance. I don't think he's stupid, but it is kinda stupid for the team's leader to not be present when everyone else is there. And if he thought no one would notice, in NYC, well that's hard to believe.

Part of me thinks he's done with football and he knows it. He should know that he doesn't have the stamina of Tom Brady, and that Robert Saleh is not Bill Bellcihik. He should also know that he can't escape elite DEs, LBs and blitzing safeties as he did in his 20s and 30s, when he looked like Houdini.

I just wouldn't be surprised if he retires. And I wouldn't be surprised if he shows up either. Rodgers has always danced to his own music. Thank god he's not our problem anymore.

 

[Heyjoe4]

It shouldn't matter if it is the #1 guy on your roster or the #90 guy, nobody should put themselves above the team. Rodgers even said as much a few months ago.

The last time I checked, there weren't a lot of jobs that pay $45M/year, with a schedule that gives you quite a few months off to boot. A fine means nothing to Rodgers, its pocket change. What should mean something to him, is the message he himself is sending to his teammates by skipping out on a mandatory practice. Based on the NY Media reaction, he isn't scoring any points with the fans either.

Great player, so glad we are done with him.

He is (or maybe was) a truly great player and gave us a lot of wins and a lot to watch over the years. But he's starting to sound and act like Howard Hughes, Elvis, and Michael Jackson. He's all yours New York. Just check the length of his finger nails when he shows up........

If he ever shows up, that is. I'm starting to doubt that.

 

[sschind]

Poker you nailed the summary on these stunts by Rodgers. Saleh was at his passive/aggressive best (mostly passive), saying in effect - "Everyone has to be here for this minicamp, that's why it's called mandatory, duh - but Rodgers has something else he'd rather do."

I mean, that's the essence of it. He didn't get the ok from the Jets, and even if he asked, which I doubt, he said no. What he was really saying was "**** you. I have other things to do and this is not convenient for me."

By pro sports standards, Rodgers is very old, he's not Tom Brady, and by missing all of last year, he fell further into irrelevancy (don't get me wrong, he's first ballot HOF and among the top 5 QBs ever, but that's the past and Rodgers only measures himself in the now). And that is anathema to Rodgers, sinking into irrlevancy. Jets' fans are thinking he'll play like he did in his late 20s, so expectations for him are huge in NYC.

He got whacked by the owners of the Pat McAfee show, he entertained a run with RFK Jr as VP after totally committing to the new team - the guy just needs to be seen. And then there was that spectacular failure on Jeopardy, where I'm pretty sure he was told he would never be the new Alex Trabek, and he's just grasping.

It just makes me all the happier with the team the Packers have become. Both Favre and Rodgers succumbed to their own celebrity. I hope Love has a terrific career and can avoid that.

I didn't read anything other than a few headlines and paragraphs about the whole VP so forgive me if I missed something. Did Rodgers ever say he was seriously considering running as a VP candidate. All I read says RFK Jr. was considering Rodgers as a running mate along with a few other people (never did get teh names of the other people that's how much I cared) You make it sound as if he said I might play football or I might run for VP I don't know yet.

So many people making a big deal out of this. If I had to write what I think the conversation between Rodgers and Saleh went it would go something like this.

Rodgers: I know we have a mandatory mini camp coming up but I have a previous engagement that is very important to me and I won't be attending

Saleh: OK, but you know it is mandatory. You are contractually obligated to be there.

Rodgers: I know but this is very important to me.

Saleh: I think it is very important for you to be there to start building some continuity with the team. You missed all of last season and we have a bunch of rookies as well.

Rodgers: I understand. I will be at the voluntary camp and I assure you I am committed to building a rapport with my team mates. Its just that this event is also very important to me.

Saleh: may I ask what the event is?

Rodgers: Yes, It is XXXXXXXX but I would appreciate it if you didn't tell anyone.

Saleh: OK, but if anyone asks I'm going to say it was unexcused. We can't be giving you special treatment. We will have to fine you for the days missed.

Rodgers: No problem, let me go check the cushions of my couch.



Ok so that last one probably didn't happen but I would be willing to bet in some way shape or form the rest went something like that.

Lets say you (not you specifically Joe but anyone who is still reading) had a high level meeting at your place of employment to discuss a very important issue and given your important position in the company it was mandatory that you attend in person and your daughter decided to get married on the same day. There is no way you can attend both as one is in LA and the other is in Abu Dahbi and are scheduled to take place simultaneously (ignore the time difference and that one would be happening at night. Its just the way it is). What would you do?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I didn't read anything other than a few headlines and paragraphs about the whole VP so forgive me if I missed something. Did Rodgers ever say he was seriously considering running as a VP candidate. All I read says RFK Jr. was considering Rodgers as a running mate along with a few other people (never did get teh names of the other people that's how much I cared) You make it sound as if he said I might play football or I might run for VP I don't know yet.

So many people making a big deal out of this. If I had to write what I think the conversation between Rodgers and Saleh went it would go something like this.

Rodgers: I know we have a mandatory mini camp coming up but I have a previous engagement that is very important to me and I won't be attending

Saleh: OK, but you know it is mandatory. You are contractually obligated to be there.

Rodgers: I know but this is very important to me.

Saleh: I think it is very important for you to be there to start building some continuity with the team. You missed all of last season and we have a bunch of rookies as well.

Rodgers: I understand. I will be at the voluntary camp and I assure you I am committed to building a rapport with my team mates. Its just that this event is also very important to me.

Saleh: may I ask what the event is?

Rodgers: Yes, It is XXXXXXXX but I would appreciate it if you didn't tell anyone.

Saleh: OK, but if anyone asks I'm going to say it was unexcused. We can't be giving you special treatment. We will have to fine you for the days missed.

Rodgers: No problem, let me go check the cushions of my couch.



Ok so that last one probably didn't happen but I would be willing to bet in some way shape or form the rest went something like that.

Lets say you (not you specifically Joe but anyone who is still reading) had a high level meeting at your place of employment to discuss a very important issue and given your important position in the company it was mandatory that you attend in person and your daughter decided to get married on the same day. There is no way you can attend both as one is in LA and the other is in Abu Dahbi and are scheduled to take place simultaneously (ignore the time difference and that one would be happening at night. Its just the way it is). What would you do?

For starters, if I was Rodgers, I wouldn't have made the statement below.

While I agree with you and how the call between Rodgers and Saleh went, what other choice did Saleh have? "If you go, I am cutting you"? Rodgers put his coach and his team in a no win situation. Rodgers isn't a rookie, he's been doing this a long time, he should know not to schedule stuff (sounds like a trip) when it is more than likely to interfere with his job.

Anyway, I am sticking to my belief that Rodgers is all about Rodgers. He hasn't changed, yet he expects his teammates to.

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[Pokerbrat2000]

This reads like there is the assumption that whatever he's doing is worse for the team that whatever he's doing instead.

If he's ******** off, that's worse. No objection from me.

If he's doing a thing that will improve his health for the coming season and possibly future seasons, that sounds like doing something good for the team. Though I don't consider this a binary thing. It is very subjective.

If he was doing something health related and/or was "good for the team", I highly doubt Saleh would have made a point to say that whatever Rodgers is doing is "inexcused" (Saleh's words, not mine). He merely would have said "Aaron will be gone for football reasons and it is considered an excused absence, not subject to fines."

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

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[Pokerbrat2000]

If Cowturd's "source" is correct....Rodgers is just on an "overseas vacation".

No big deal, guessing he didn't want to reschedule for Mandatory Camp, he might have lost some travel miles or had to pay a rebooking fee if he did.

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[Heyjoe4]

I didn't read anything other than a few headlines and paragraphs about the whole VP so forgive me if I missed something. Did Rodgers ever say he was seriously considering running as a VP candidate. All I read says RFK Jr. was considering Rodgers as a running mate along with a few other people (never did get teh names of the other people that's how much I cared) You make it sound as if he said I might play football or I might run for VP I don't know yet.

So many people making a big deal out of this. If I had to write what I think the conversation between Rodgers and Saleh went it would go something like this.

Rodgers: I know we have a mandatory mini camp coming up but I have a previous engagement that is very important to me and I won't be attending

Saleh: OK, but you know it is mandatory. You are contractually obligated to be there.

Rodgers: I know but this is very important to me.

Saleh: I think it is very important for you to be there to start building some continuity with the team. You missed all of last season and we have a bunch of rookies as well.

Rodgers: I understand. I will be at the voluntary camp and I assure you I am committed to building a rapport with my team mates. Its just that this event is also very important to me.

Saleh: may I ask what the event is?

Rodgers: Yes, It is XXXXXXXX but I would appreciate it if you didn't tell anyone.

Saleh: OK, but if anyone asks I'm going to say it was unexcused. We can't be giving you special treatment. We will have to fine you for the days missed.

Rodgers: No problem, let me go check the cushions of my couch.



Ok so that last one probably didn't happen but I would be willing to bet in some way shape or form the rest went something like that.

Lets say you (not you specifically Joe but anyone who is still reading) had a high level meeting at your place of employment to discuss a very important issue and given your important position in the company it was mandatory that you attend in person and your daughter decided to get married on the same day. There is no way you can attend both as one is in LA and the other is in Abu Dahbi and are scheduled to take place simultaneously (ignore the time difference and that one would be happening at night. Its just the way it is). What would you do?

FWIW, he took the RFK Jr. VP possibility seriously, or at least he said he did - good enough for me. That was after saying that all the ******** other than the Jets winning should be out of the building. Well, unless something comes along that will bring attention to Rodgers. Gotta read the fine print with this guy. Or just work on the assumption that the team and winning comes first, unless Rodgers decides otherwise for himself. What a leader.

 

[Heyjoe4]

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Which makes me wonder how much more deeply he could love himself. Then again, if he is all he's got, well maybe this works for him.

 

[Thirteen Below]

If Cowturd's "source" is correct....Rodgers is just on an "overseas vacation".

No big deal, guessing he didn't want to reschedule for Mandatory Camp, he might have lost some travel miles or had to pay a rebooking fee if he did.

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Boy; if that's really it, the New York press is going to burn him at the stake - and every time he has a bad game this season, they're going to drag this out and light him up all over again... "Maybe if he'd been at minicamp working with his receivers, some of those passes would have connected,", etc.

And how is he going to reconcile this with his teammates? What are they going to think? Jesus, the guy had a whole year to prance around Europe. He had to wait until summer team events begin, and your new teammates are counting on getting familiar with you? You really just can't be bothered?

I suspect Rodgers is spoiled form playing his whole career in Green Bay, where he was a god and the Wisconsin press had to treat him with kid gloves or risk alienating the team. I wonder how he'll handle things when the Jets hit a bad streak, and the press rips into him.

He's never had that happen before; wonder how his ego will deal with it. I can imagine it turning rather ugly.

 

[Thirteen Below]

If he was doing something health related and/or was "good for the team", I highly doubt Saleh would have made a point to say that whatever Rodgers is doing is "inexcused" (Saleh's words, not mine). He merely would have said "Aaron will be gone for football reasons and it is considered an excused absence, not subject to fines."

You took the words right out of my mouth. Saleh would have bent over backwards for an excuse to excuse Lord Aaron and avoid the distraction.

While I agree with you and how the call between Rodgers and Saleh went, what other choice did Saleh have? "If you go, I am cutting you"? Rodgers put his coach and his team in a no win situation. Rodgers isn't a rookie, he's been doing this a long time, he should know not to schedule stuff (sounds like a trip) when it is more than likely to interfere with his job.

Kind of almost reminds me of when Favre went to Minnesota and humiliated Chidlress by disregarding his coach's position, making it clear it was Favre's team, not Childress. Rodgers didn't do Saleh any favors with this stunt.

I just wouldn't be surprised if he retires. And I wouldn't be surprised if he shows up either. Rodgers has always danced to his own music. Thank god he's not our problem anymore.

On this one, I have to disagree. I don't believe his ego and his pride would allow him to retire right now. He's too obsessed with proving to the world that he's a football god, and that obsession won't allow him to **** away the last and only chance he'll ever have to prove it.

He won't "technically" quit at this point, but I suspect you're half right - part of him has already quit on his team, and on his teammates. And if we're both right about that, we'll see it more and more over the next several months.

No. He is still getting most of that.

But it is more important than his team.

But what sticks in my craw about this is that the fact that he's getting paid almost 40 million dollars to do his job to the best of hs ability is evidently not as important to him as his obligation to his teammates and to the people who are paying him all that money. Not a dime of whoch he even earmed last season, but he cashed the checks anyway.

I automatically look back to my last job, the last job I was hired to do by someone else. The job I retired from at the start of the pandemic, the last job where someone gave me a paycheck every week, in return for which I was expected to accomplish tasks for them. I was the operations manager for an organiztion of over 100 employees., and it came with a lot of responsibility and a lot of expectations and trust. For which I was fairly compensated, IMO.

If I needed to take time off for some sort of personl reason, I did it. Obviously not often, but things come up. I worked hard, and didn't feel any guilt about taking a day or two off for some family emergency or even important life event.

But....

If i'd had some sort of accident which required me to take essentially a full year off from my job (and my employer still paid me my full salary during that period), and then just when I was finally getting back to resuming my duties, some sort of personal event came up that would require me to miss some very important planning meetings or whatever.... things that really could not be made up later... there would have been nothing more important to me than being at those meetings and making a supreme, even superhuman effort to give my organization back some of the things that they had been paying me for over the last year but that I was not there to do. I'd have spent the entire next year doing everything I could think of to earn the money they'd been paying me while I was not there.

But not Rodgers. He apparently doesn't think that way; never enters his mind. Because, he personally did not see any way he'd benefit from being there.

I hardly even know what to say about the way I think of that.

There were always a few Rodgers apologist here that said he didn't need to attend Packer OTA's because he knew the playbook inside and out and had been with the Packers for a long time, etc. Basically, nothing new for him to learn.

And that's Rodgers, right there. All of him. Me, me, memememememe.

First of all, what he never, ever could begin to comprehend is that it was not about what "he had to learn" - at least, not just about that. It was about giving his young teammates, who were struggling to make the team and trying desperately to learn everything they could and make a good impression, to learn a few things from him - ther veteran quarterback, their team leader, the future hall of famer they'd been watching on TV ever since they were kids. It was their chance to learn something new to them, that might make them better players and give them a better chance to contribute.

And it was a chance to confer with his coaches, the team managers who were charged with evaluating talent, and share his thoughts, opinions, and suggestions on those kids - "I like the way number 84 gets separation, but I noticed that when he's got his man beat, he seems to start focusing more on catching the ball than on continuing his route. Might have gotten away with that at Michigan State, but at this level it gives the defender a chance to recover and get back into the play. That needs work".

Or whatever. Any one of a milllion things that one of the best quarterbacks who ever played the game could spot in the course of a play, but that a coach on the sideline might not see. But still needs to know about when evaluating players.

And second, theer are things he coukd and needs to learn in every mini-camp. He needs to know who his receivers are, what they are and are not capable of, what he needs to do (and can do) to mesh with him. He's famous for not fully trusting his rookie receivers, and just plain flatout refusing to throw them the ball in case they drop it... maybe if he'd spent a few more weeks each summer meeting these kids, working with them, telling them that if there was anything they needed to know they should come and ask him, he might have established productive rapports with his receiver corps. And maybe even not had such a terrible postseaon record.

 

[Heyjoe4]

You took the words right out of my mouth. Saleh would have bent over backwards for an excuse to excuse Lord Aaron and avoid the distraction.




Kind of almost reminds me of when Favre went to Minnesota and humiliated Chidlress by disregarding his coach's position, making it clear it was Favre's team, not Childress. Rodgers didn't do Saleh any favors with this stunt.

On this one, I have to disagree. I don't believe his ego and his pride would allow him to retire right now. He's too obsessed with proving to the world that he's a football god, and that obsession won't allow him to **** away the last and only chance he'll ever have to prove it.

He won't "technically" quit at this point, but I suspect you're half right - part of him has already quit on his team, and on his teammates. And if we're both right about that, we'll see it more and more over the next several months.



But what sticks in my craw about this is that the fact that he's getting paid almost 40 million dollars to do his job to the best of hs ability is evidently not as important to him as his obligation to his teammates and to the people who are paying him all that money. Not a dime of whoch he even earmed last season, but he cashed the checks anyway.

I automatically look back to my last job, the last job I was hired to do by someone else. The job I retired from at the start of the pandemic, the last job where someone gave me a paycheck every week, in return for which I was expected to accomplish tasks for them. I was the operations manager for an organiztion of over 100 employees., and it came with a lot of responsibility and a lot of expectations and trust. For which I was fairly compensated, IMO.

If I needed to take time off for some sort of personl reason, I did it. Obviously not often, but things come up. I worked hard, and didn't feel any guilt about taking a day or two off for some family emergency or even important life event.

But....

If i'd had some sort of accident which required me to take essentially a full year off from my job (and my employer still paid me my full salary during that period), and then just when I was finally getting back to resuming my duties, some sort of personal event came up that would require me to miss some very important planning meetings or whatever.... things that really could not be made up later... there would have been nothing more important to me than being at those meetings and making a supreme, even superhuman effort to give my organization back some of the things that they had been paying me for over the last year but that I was not there to do. I'd have spent the entire next year doing everything I could think of to earn the money they'd been paying me while I was not there.

But not Rodgers. He apparently doesn't think that way; never enters his mind. Because, he personally did not see any way he'd benefit from being there.

I hardly even know what to say about the way I think of that.


And that's Rodgers, right there. All of him. Me, me, memememememe.

First of all, what he never, ever could begin to comprehend is that it was not about what "he had to learn" - at least, not just about that. It was about giving his young teammates, who were struggling to make the team and trying desperately to learn everything they could and make a good impression, to learn a few things from him - ther veteran quarterback, their team leader, the future hall of famer they'd been watching on TV ever since they were kids. It was their chance to learn something new to them, that might make them better players and give them a better chance to contribute.

And it was a chance to confer with his coaches, the team managers who were charged with evaluating talent, and share his thoughts, opinions, and suggestions on those kids - "I like the way number 84 gets separation, but I noticed that when he's got his man beat, he seems to start focusing more on catching the ball than on continuing his route. Might have gotten away with that at Michigan State, but at this level it gives the defender a chance to recover and get back into the play. That needs work".

Or whatever. Any one of a milllion things that one of the best quarterbacks who ever played the game could spot in the course of a play, but that a coach on the sideline might not see. But still needs to know about when evaluating players.

And second, theer are things he coukd and needs to learn in every mini-camp. He needs to know who his receivers are, what they are and are not capable of, what he needs to do (and can do) to mesh with him. He's famous for not fully trusting his rookie receivers, and just plain flatout refusing to throw them the ball in case they drop it... maybe if he'd spent a few more weeks each summer meeting these kids, working with them, telling them that if there was anything they needed to know they should come and ask him, he might have established productive rapports with his receiver corps. And maybe even not had such a terrible postseaon record.

Yeah I don't really think he'll quit either 13, and for the reasons you mention - mostly, his ego won't let him quit. And I do hope he plays because I'd like to see what he has left - just out of curiosity. I mentioned earlier he has definitely lost a step and can't be a Houdini in the pocket as he was in the past. That's one reason he got sacked so early last year with horrible consequences. Rodgers has always done his best work, IMO, when plays break down and he gets creative. Those days are gone.

I don't like what Rodgers has become. He gave us a lot of great football, a SB, and a continuation of 30 years of HOF QB play. But as much as I dislike him now, I don't wish him anything bad either. I really don't care what the Jets do this year as long as it doesn't involve playing the Packers. And then the Packers can put him in his place.

One reason there have been so many comments here about a guy who has left is, I think, due to "I told you so." I'm glad he got traded and I love this Packer team (pun intended). But after the misery he put everyone through at the end, we're all watching his latest antics and getting it. Jets fans and media are finding that out now. And the NYC press is not the Green Bay Gazette or the JS. There will be no mercy, no holding punches. Rodgers has a thin skin and it might get kinda wild.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Lots of comments here about our favorite ex-QB who we can't seemingly still get enough of.

All of these comments on Rodgers about his mini-camp absence, including mine, were summarized in one word by the always-succinct LTF:

"Hypocrite"

 

[Curly Calhoun]

So many Rodgers threads to choose from, guess I will put this right here.

Some things never change and I guess Rodgers is comfortable enough with his 4 snaps in a real game with the Jets offense, that he is already taking unexcused absences from the Jets Minicamp.

WTG Aaron, wouldn't want you changing your stripes!

Aaron Rodgers skips Jets mandatory minicamp in surprise unexcused absence

In a surprise, Aaron Rodgers will not be taking part in this week’s mandatory minicamp, coach Robert Saleh said on Tuesday.

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Setting the tone...

Aaron gonna Aaron.

 

[tynimiller]

I'll just say it - I have ZERO clue why so many Packer fans continue to be so enamored with what Aaron does or doesn't do. I mean sure I pay attention to ex-Packers but not to the almost stalker level some are showcasing online (not necessarily here but man a ton elsewhere).

 

[Heyjoe4]

I'll just say it - I have ZERO clue why so many Packer fans continue to be so enamored with what Aaron does or doesn't do. I mean sure I pay attention to ex-Packers but not to the almost stalker level some are showcasing online (not necessarily here but man a ton elsewhere).

Rodgers brings a lot of this attention on himself - from doing psychedelics in South America, to considering a run as RFK Jrs' VP to skipping a mandatory camp to darkness retreats, trying out as Jeopardy host, getting in a verbal, public fight with a talk-show host, mixed in with his hypocrisy - it's hard to ignore it.

I will be happy though when TC starts in July and we can focus on what the Packers may accomplish this year. That's a lot more fun anyway.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I'll just say it - I have ZERO clue why so many Packer fans continue to be so enamored with what Aaron does or doesn't do. I mean sure I pay attention to ex-Packers but not to the almost stalker level some are showcasing online (not necessarily here but man a ton elsewhere).

Because my #12 Jersey is collecting dust in the back of the closet?

It's the off-season, what news out of GB do you have? I mostly see recycled fantasy talk of Packer trades for this superstar or that one. Disguising their ramblings with a clickbait title so people like me, desperate for Packer news, clicks on it.

Hard not to follow the NFL and be exposed to "Rodgers News". He is the daily soap opera and I want to know if he was the one that shot J.R.!

 

[Heyjoe4]

Because my #12 Jersey is collecting dust in the back of the closet?

It's the off-season, what news out of GB do you have? I mostly see recycled fantasy talk of Packer trades for this superstar or that one. Disguising their ramblings with a clickbait title so people like me, desperate for Packer news, clicks on it.

Hard not to follow the NFL and be exposed to "Rodgers News". He is the daily soap opera and I want to know if he was the one that shot J.R.!

Exactly. He actively looks for attention. That's hard to ignore, especially before the season starts.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I suspect Rodgers is spoiled form playing his whole career in Green Bay, where he was a god and the Wisconsin press had to treat him with kid gloves or risk alienating the team. I wonder how he'll handle things when the Jets hit a bad streak, and the press rips into him.

Yup. Rodgers somewhat "earned his pass" to be a ****** bag in Green Bay. While some of us criticized him for his BS, most turned a blind eye and said "but he has done so much for the Packers, who cares." He doesn't have that in NY. All the NY media and fans have is the promise and hope of having the franchises best QB since Joe Namath behind center. 4 snaps, 1 incompletion, 1 sack isn't doing it for them.

 

[tynimiller]

Because my #12 Jersey is collecting dust in the back of the closet?

It's the off-season, what news out of GB do you have? I mostly see recycled fantasy talk of Packer trades for this superstar or that one. Disguising their ramblings with a clickbait title so people like me, desperate for Packer news, clicks on it.

Hard not to follow the NFL and be exposed to "Rodgers News". He is the daily soap opera and I want to know if he was the one that shot J.R.!

Like I said I get being aware, but this level of enamoring is just crazy IMO that I've seen.

 

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You took the words right out of my mouth. Saleh would have bent over backwards for an excuse to excuse Lord Aaron and avoid the distraction.




Kind of almost reminds me of when Favre went to Minnesota and humiliated Chidlress by disregarding his coach's position, making it clear it was Favre's team, not Childress. Rodgers didn't do Saleh any favors with this stunt.

On this one, I have to disagree. I don't believe his ego and his pride would allow him to retire right now. He's too obsessed with proving to the world that he's a football god, and that obsession won't allow him to **** away the last and only chance he'll ever have to prove it.

He won't "technically" quit at this point, but I suspect you're half right - part of him has already quit on his team, and on his teammates. And if we're both right about that, we'll see it more and more over the next several months.



But what sticks in my craw about this is that the fact that he's getting paid almost 40 million dollars to do his job to the best of hs ability is evidently not as important to him as his obligation to his teammates and to the people who are paying him all that money. Not a dime of whoch he even earmed last season, but he cashed the checks anyway.

I automatically look back to my last job, the last job I was hired to do by someone else. The job I retired from at the start of the pandemic, the last job where someone gave me a paycheck every week, in return for which I was expected to accomplish tasks for them. I was the operations manager for an organiztion of over 100 employees., and it came with a lot of responsibility and a lot of expectations and trust. For which I was fairly compensated, IMO.

If I needed to take time off for some sort of personl reason, I did it. Obviously not often, but things come up. I worked hard, and didn't feel any guilt about taking a day or two off for some family emergency or even important life event.

But....

If i'd had some sort of accident which required me to take essentially a full year off from my job (and my employer still paid me my full salary during that period), and then just when I was finally getting back to resuming my duties, some sort of personal event came up that would require me to miss some very important planning meetings or whatever.... things that really could not be made up later... there would have been nothing more important to me than being at those meetings and making a supreme, even superhuman effort to give my organization back some of the things that they had been paying me for over the last year but that I was not there to do. I'd have spent the entire next year doing everything I could think of to earn the money they'd been paying me while I was not there.

But not Rodgers. He apparently doesn't think that way; never enters his mind. Because, he personally did not see any way he'd benefit from being there.

I hardly even know what to say about the way I think of that.


And that's Rodgers, right there. All of him. Me, me, memememememe.

First of all, what he never, ever could begin to comprehend is that it was not about what "he had to learn" - at least, not just about that. It was about giving his young teammates, who were struggling to make the team and trying desperately to learn everything they could and make a good impression, to learn a few things from him - ther veteran quarterback, their team leader, the future hall of famer they'd been watching on TV ever since they were kids. It was their chance to learn something new to them, that might make them better players and give them a better chance to contribute.

And it was a chance to confer with his coaches, the team managers who were charged with evaluating talent, and share his thoughts, opinions, and suggestions on those kids - "I like the way number 84 gets separation, but I noticed that when he's got his man beat, he seems to start focusing more on catching the ball than on continuing his route. Might have gotten away with that at Michigan State, but at this level it gives the defender a chance to recover and get back into the play. That needs work".

Or whatever. Any one of a milllion things that one of the best quarterbacks who ever played the game could spot in the course of a play, but that a coach on the sideline might not see. But still needs to know about when evaluating players.

And second, theer are things he coukd and needs to learn in every mini-camp. He needs to know who his receivers are, what they are and are not capable of, what he needs to do (and can do) to mesh with him. He's famous for not fully trusting his rookie receivers, and just plain flatout refusing to throw them the ball in case they drop it... maybe if he'd spent a few more weeks each summer meeting these kids, working with them, telling them that if there was anything they needed to know they should come and ask him, he might have established productive rapports with his receiver corps. And maybe even not had such a terrible postseaon record.

Cliff Notes version, please.

 

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Cliff Notes version, please.

I've been guilty of writing too much as well. No one bothers to read a dissertation.