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Bring Back Holmgren?

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by Hendogg33, Nov 3, 2009.

  1. Hendogg33

    Hendogg33 Cheesehead

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    So I might be acting brash here but I have seen on the forum that a lot of people are starting to call for MM to be fired. I have joined that train after watching his questionable playcalling fail time and again. What is worse is that now he has apparently lost the team. So how about we bring Mike Holmgren back. I know it probably won't happen but after his last few years in Seattle he deserves to go out with a better bang. It would be great to have him work with AROD. (He did work with Montana and molded Steve Young and Brett Favre) He also was never afraid to get in his star player's (Brett Favre) face and call him out. The last time we had a TRUELY dominant and dangerous team (not counting 07-we just seemed to young at the time) was with Holmgren at the helm. We were on the verge of a dynasty when he left. Had we been able to hold on to him who knows how many titles the packers would have. So let's bring back the orginal Big Mike, Mike Holmgren.
     
  2. realoatesman

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    He won't come back. Personally I think that Winston Moss would be a good HC, but barring a total collapse nothing should be done until the end of the season.
     
  3. Green_Bay_Packers

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    He wont come back now will he?

    Did he not retire a while back?
     
  4. realoatesman

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    Yeah but there have been rumors going around about how he wants to coach out east, or that he will end up being a GM in Seattle.
     
  5. Quientus

    Quientus Oenophile

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    Holmgren has been hinting that he is ready to come back, however, from the looks of it, Holmgren would prefer a GM job ... not a coaching job (unless the "right one" presents itself) ...

    I do not see Holmgren accepting a Head Coaching position in Green Bay while TT is the GM though ..., not unless TT would accept to also take a more pro-active stance, in terms of acquiring reinforcements via the FA market ...

    Alot of teams have already been talked about as the next team to offer Holmgren a new HC job, however, so far Green Bay hasn't been among those ...
     
  6. ThinkICare

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    I'd much rather have Cowher, Marriuci, or Gruden for our HC. Doesn't seem like Holmgren wants to come back to GB which is fine. We need someone who can will the Pack to win and can motivate players to give their best. Those 3 coaches I think can do that.
     
  7. Hendogg33

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    I believe Holmgren retired after last season. I know he probably won't come back because A TT won't fire his golden boy MM, B even if TT did fire MM he would go after a similar unknown OC or DC to guide the team, C it would be a tough sell to get Holmgren out of retirement BUT im just throwing it out there hoping maybe TT decides to go with a vetren for once.
     
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    I agree, however, currently ... I don't see either of them ending up in Green Bay ... - Bringing in either of those above mentioned possibilities would probably "require" that those coaches being given some leeway in terms of FA acquisitions as well ... and that is not likely to happen with the current management ...

    Right now, given past history in terms of looking at the free agency market ... - The Current management will probably be the largest hindrance to be able to land a "seasoned" Head Coach ...
     
  9. longtimefan

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    not a rumor he told that to Peter King
     
  10. realoatesman

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    Ah-didn't know where it came from. I probably just heard it on ESPN
     
  11. ThinkICare

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    Yeah, I pretty much had in mind that TT would be fired too. Once that happens I think there will be a few good possibilities for the head coaching job because we have a young promising team. We definitely need to have a GM that isn't afraid to dabble in FA every now and then.
     
  12. Quientus

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    In all likelyhood, unless the Packers lose out and end up with yet another losing season ... I doubt TT will be fired the same time as McCarthy ...

    Most likely ... McCarthy will be fired before TT, which will probably result in an entire new coaching staff ... Thus also (probably) meaning TT will be given a few more years to "rebuild" - again ...

    At this point, I just don't see Murphy firing both TT and McCarthy simultanously ... - Ofcourse I could be wrong, hah ...
     
  13. longtimefan

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    Ted wont be fired if they have a 8-8 or better season...

    Doubt if Mike will be fired either
     
  14. PackersRS

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    Homlgren has stated he prefers the east coast.

    Chucky and Mariucci don't have the profile. Gruden got kicked out of Tampa by his own players, and Mariucci isn't really a coach. He's more of Favre's friend than anything.

    The real options out there are Shanahan and Cowher.

    But I don't think a seasoned vet is the best option. We need a though, disciplinary coach, that provides leadership, confidence and vitality to his players, like Rex Ryan. He's big mouthed, but he gets the jobe done.

    Don't really know LeBeau's personality, but he could be a great coach.

    I wouldn't like Moss as a coach at all. He's not even a good ILB coach...
     
  15. Green_Bay_Packers

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    Ok thanks a lot for the info :)
     
  16. realoatesman

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    Oh god...if we were to get a loud mouth like rex ryan as head coach my fanhood would be sorely tested.

    I think Moss would be a good coach. Last year he called out his linebackers for their poor play. That's the kind of thing we need for this young team. Players need to be held accountable for their play and actions.

    As far as not being a good ILB coach (I'm assuming you're referring to AJ) I don't think the HC has much to do with position coaching so that's basically a non-factor.
     
  17. A12ROD903

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    Didnt Cowher have an opportunity to return at the beginning of the season? I forgot with who, but he turned it down. Now hes a sportscaster. Im pretty sure it was him....
     
  18. longtimefan

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    The Jets....

    Word was he didnt want to coach Brett

    Not sure how true it all was though, that was the RUMOR at the time
     
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    He won't be much help without Brett.
     

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