Brandon McManus

[OldSchool101]

Plus I don’t believe you save anything monetarily by releasing Havrisik for several weeks. Lucas just punched his ticket by going 5/5 on attempts. There’s really no reason to rush anything as him using a Roster spot for a couple weeks is part of an important formula into getting our starting K back to 100%. I wouldn’t at all be opposed to eventually trying to stash Havrisik on Practice squad for a time or two just as a precaution if they think there’s any chance of a lingering injury issue

 

[tynimiller]

Plus I don’t believe you save anything monetarily by releasing Havrisik for several weeks. Lucas just punched his ticket by going 5/5 on attempts. There’s really no reason to rush anything as him using a Roster spot for a couple weeks is part of an important formula into getting our starting K back to 100%. I wouldn’t at all be opposed to eventually trying to stash Havrisik on Practice squad for a time or two just as a precaution if they think there’s any chance of a lingering injury issue

The reason to release him IMO would be for a returning guy like Monk, Watson, Oliver, Lloyd or such needing and likely delivering more value if McManus is healthy again for a spot on the 53.

 

[El Guapo]

If I remember, we've been holding open two rosters spots on the 53. One was used for Havrisik and at some point we will likely have Watson and Monk to put on the 53. I would expect Lloyd to stay off the roster until/unless we have a RB injury (there's no reason to rush back an injury-prone player).

 

[tynimiller]

If I remember, we've been holding open two rosters spots on the 53. One was used for Havrisik and at some point we will likely have Watson and Monk to put on the 53. I would expect Lloyd to stay off the roster until/unless we have a RB injury (there's no reason to rush back an injury-prone player).

I do believe we might be at 52 right now. Let me check.

 

[tynimiller]

I do believe we might be at 52 right now. Let me check.

Confirmed presently at 52

 

[El Guapo]

Confirmed presently at 52

Yup, so we'll be back at 51 assuming they let the kicker go. Sometime down the line they will also have to create room for Jayden Reed when he is ready, but that's a long ways away.

 

[tynimiller]

Yup, so we'll be back at 51 assuming they let the kicker go. Sometime down the line they will also have to create room for Jayden Reed when he is ready, but that's a long ways away.

I wouldn't be shocked if Reed is done for the year....

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

The reason to release him IMO would be for a returning guy like Monk, Watson, Oliver, Lloyd or such needing and likely delivering more value if McManus is healthy again for a spot on the 53.

Yeah, once McManus is healthy, Havrisik will be released. No reason to have 2 Kickers on the 53, unless one is injured. No shade meant to Havrisik, but there are quite a few guys like him floating around, unemployed. Heck, he hadn't kicked in the NFL since 2023. If he goes unclaimed, I guess you put him on the Practice squad. All that begs the question of why even have McNamee? Yes, he is exempt from counting, but does he really have a future in the NFL? Obviously, the Packers weren't confident enough in him to promote him for the Bengals game.

McManus signed a 3 year deal, unless he grabs some more **** on a plane or gets injured, he isn't going anywhere.

 

[tynimiller]

Yeah, once McManus is healthy, Havrisik will be released. No reason to have 2 Kickers on the 53, unless one is injured. No shade meant to Havrisik, but there are quite a few guys like him floating around, unemployed. Heck, he hadn't kicked in the NFL since 2023. If he goes unclaimed, I guess you put him on the Practice squad. All that begs the question of why even have McNamee? Yes, he is exempt from counting, but does he really have a future in the NFL? Obviously, the Packers weren't confident enough in him to promote him for the Bengals game.

McManus signed a 3 year deal, unless he grabs some more **** on a plane or gets injured, he isn't going anywhere.

McNamee is all about consistency - he has immense promise and a strong leg. Zero reason not to keep him around as an emergency kicking backup and potential long term project.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

McNamee is all about consistency - he has immense promise and a strong leg. Zero reason not to keep him around as an emergency kicking backup and potential long term project.

Right but.....we didn't call him up in this emergency, and isn't McManus your long term kicker?

Where do you see McNamee next summer?

 

[tynimiller]

Right but.....we didn't call him up in this emergency, and isn't McManus your long term kicker?

Where do you see McNamee next summer?

Honestly, I don't believe the International Exemption is one year and done - if not and you still see the potential and growth I see zero reason NOT to have him be right back here.

 

[milani]

The question is this - is Havrisik good enough to replace the kicker currently on the PS?

I don't know the answer, but he certainly put the question in play after yesterday.

Do you have any intel on the international guy currently on the PS?

Does he have the same distance as McManus? Can he make a 53 yarder in front of a huge crowd on the road to save the game like McManus did 2 weeks ago? ( Provided our OL blocks ). I hope the kid gets a job. Right now I opt for the veteran. The last couple kickers really cost us.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Honestly, I don't believe the International Exemption is one year and done - if not and you still see the potential and growth I see zero reason NOT to have him be right back here.

I don't think it is. I believe we had our first one for a few years. I guess what I am saying is that McManus is our kicker for at least 2 more seasons. If the Packers weren't comfortable with McNamee kicking yesterday, when does that happen?

I know what you are saying about potential, but I would rather we keep a K on the PS that is ready to go, at a moments notice.

 

[tynimiller]

I don't think it is. I believe we had our first one for a few years. I guess what I am saying is that McManus is our kicker for at least 2 more seasons. If the Packers weren't comfortable with McNamee kicking yesterday, when does that happen?

I know what you are saying about potential, but I would rather we keep a K on the PS that is ready to go, at a moments notice.

LOL You're flinging two separate things into one conversation. There is literally zero reason to dispose McNamee, he takes up zero spots officially and could easily grow into a guy that is fully capable of being your back up kicker....just because he wasn't ready in his rookie season isn't telling to me at all. He is a literal freebie given the exemption...only way I'm cutting him to the curb is if I have a different International Player I want to use it on.

I still personally suspect Hav will be here for one more week to be safe, and then after that I'd say strong likelihood he clears waivers and we put him on PS possibly.

 

[rmontro]

Yeah, once McManus is healthy, Havrisik will be released. No reason to have 2 Kickers on the 53, unless one is injured. No shade meant to Havrisik, but there are quite a few guys like him floating around, unemployed.

If kickers are so dime a dozen, then why have we ever had kicking problems?

 

[tynimiller]

If kickers are so dime a dozen, then why have we ever had kicking problems?

They aren't...Poker is just in his feels is all.....give him sometime he'll eat a snickers and calm down LOL

 

[OldSchool101]

I wouldn't be shocked if Reed is done for the year....

Well our last regular season game is 2 days shy of 16 weeks post surgery. Obviously 17 weeks to Postseason. From everything I’m reading on success rates across the NFL (in the past) I would think clearly Reed’s probability is better he’s back before playoffs.
He's already at 4 weeks post surgery tomorrow morning (it’s sneaking up quickly) and we’re nowhere close to Postseason

 

[tynimiller]

Well our last regular season game is 2 days shy of 16 weeks post surgery. Obviously 17 weeks to Postseason. I would think his probability is better he’s back by playoffs. 10+ weeks seems to be a common threshold for higher success rates on return in the NFL without aggravating his circumstances. If he’s still out at 17 weeks there would have to be a major setback. I’d say that’s much less probability than a complete recovery.

Oh for sure possible, will all depend on that recovery for sure

 

[gopkrs]

If kickers are so dime a dozen, then why have we ever had kicking problems?

Also Biachi doesn't have a great record here in teaching potentially great kickers

 

[OldSchool101]

Oh for sure possible, will all depend on that recovery for sure

Hopefully Watson has a stroke of good fortune and we see him get integrated in the next week or two. Getting another experienced Veteran injected could really help our cause.

 

[Heyjoe4]

McNamee is the PS guy but as you indicated he has the international player exempt status, so there would be no reason to think we would not sign Havrisik if/when McManus can come back. Right now Hav is on the active roster, so there is a world where we continue to hold both on the active until then...could be a week, two or might be released this year.

Forgot about the international player exemption. So the Packers may have found some insurance at K, although Havrisik, if he played this weekend, has to stop kicking into the end zone. He should be able to fix that in a week.......

 

[Heyjoe4]

Hopefully Watson has a stroke of good fortune and we see him get integrated in the next week or two. Getting another experienced Veteran injected could really help our cause.

Yeah and having go-route threats on both sides of the field is compelling. One side probably won't get safety coverage on every step, and that opens up the long pass.

I prefer Golden because he catches everything. But both players are a threat to create a big play.

 

[Pugger]

Yeah, once McManus is healthy, Havrisik will be released. No reason to have 2 Kickers on the 53, unless one is injured. No shade meant to Havrisik, but there are quite a few guys like him floating around, unemployed. Heck, he hadn't kicked in the NFL since 2023. If he goes unclaimed, I guess you put him on the Practice squad. All that begs the question of why even have McNamee? Yes, he is exempt from counting, but does he really have a future in the NFL? Obviously, the Packers weren't confident enough in him to promote him for the Bengals game.

McManus signed a 3 year deal, unless he grabs some more **** on a plane or gets injured, he isn't going anywhere.

How long do they anticipate McManus being out?

 

[Heyjoe4]

I don't think it is. I believe we had our first one for a few years. I guess what I am saying is that McManus is our kicker for at least 2 more seasons. If the Packers weren't comfortable with McNamee kicking yesterday, when does that happen?

I know what you are saying about potential, but I would rather we keep a K on the PS that is ready to go, at a moments notice.

Yeah that's a good point. With a K already available, Gluten went out and signed Havrisik. It's pretty easy to conclude that Havrisik should be on the PS, not McNamee, or are we missing something?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

How long do they anticipate McManus being out?

I thought he was close to playing, so fingers crossed that he is back soon.