Brandon McManus

[OldSchool101]

I just think when you come in perform well in a live game it sinks in a little bit there when your primary K has an injury ? Lucas punched his ticket
Havrisik is pretty accurate in closer, but moreso inside 40 yards. 100%. Not stellar XPM at 88% career but not awful.
As far as kicks outside of 40+ he’s 5/10 career including past 50 yards, so he gets a little shaky on longer Kicks.
Also McNanamee? was not very impressive at all. I don’t think anyone really wanted him coming in to attempt a game winner.

This also speaks to our stressing thr importance of player Health and in particular we need McNamath healthy. If for any reason McNamath has a setback, I don’t feel at all nervous about Havrisick. He can get us through several games if needed and he’s getting paid either way.

 

[Voyageur]

Eh Hav is still on roster so that doesn’t matter. I wonder if McNamee asked for this even possibly since they didn’t have him come up…perhaps he didn’t want to be the token Extreme Emergency charity case given his IPP classification….no clue.

I have a few messages in to contacts to see if I can get any reasons…

No need to release him unless they're certain McManus will be playing and they need the roster spot. Who knows? They might even keep him around to do kick offs for another week, and any kicks over a longer distance to ensure McManus doesn't reinjure himself.

 

[Thirteen Below]

Eh Hav is still on roster so that doesn’t matter. I wonder if McNamee asked for this even possibly since they didn’t have him come up…perhaps he didn’t want to be the token Extreme Emergency charity case given his IPP classification….no clue.

I have a few messages in to contacts to see if I can get any reasons…

Oh, damn it, that was stupid of me. I'm distracted, and got the two kickers mixed up for a moment. Thanks!

 

[OldSchool101]

Also our blocking was better on Punt/ FG units. Rich needs to do that consistently going forward.

 

[milani]

I just think when you come in perform well in a live game it sinks in a little bit there when your primary K has an injury ? Lucas punched his ticket
Havrisik is pretty accurate in closer, but moreso inside 40 yards. 100%. Not stellar XPM at 88% career but not awful.
As far as kicks outside of 40+ he’s 5/10 career including past 50 yards, so he gets a little shaky on longer Kicks.
Also McNanamee? was not very impressive at all. I don’t think anyone really wanted him coming in to attempt a game winner.

This also speaks to our stressing thr importance of player Health and in particular we need McNamath healthy. If for any reason McNamath has a setback, I don’t feel at all nervous about Havrisick. He can get us through several games if needed and he’s getting paid either way.

Lucas was accurate. His FGs did not appear to be the boomers but they were on the money. McManus has 2 plus 50s this year. Both were crucial.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I’m betting this means we are for sure going to add a kicker to the PS. Whether that is Hav if he clears waiver or someone else.

I think that is clearly the right move. With 16/17 spots, a team would be half nuts or full on Snickers, not to carry a K on their Practice Squad. In the Packers case, they are now just carrying 2, on their 53 man roster, which will change once McManus is healthy again.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

We will no longer be using the IPP I assume unless I grossly misunderstood and we can add a new one.

I wonder if this is the case. The article I posted seemed to make it sound like a new IPP player could be put on the Practice Squad. In either case, in the grand scheme of things, I doubt such a move would impact the 2025 Packers. Unless, there is some major undiscovered football talent hiding in the Jungles of Nairobi?

 

[Heyjoe4]

Was going to say the same thing in response. Efe Obada, Jordan Mailata, and Jakob Johnson appear to be the most successful IPP players. I think the program was intended to get more interest in the NFL *Cough, Cough, money* from places outside of the U.S.

If the Packers see great potential in McNamee, might pay off in the future.

Ya gotta hand it to the NFL when it comes to monetizing the business. Absolute masters of their domain.

 

[Voyageur]

Has Havrasik cleared waivers yet? If he has, the Packers might even look at making a hole on the PS for him, if it looks like McManus might not be ready this week. Just guessing here that he'd be willing to take a paycheck for a couple of weeks. He's planning on being a substitute teacher so the pay would be pretty good by comparison.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Eh Hav is still on roster so that doesn’t matter. I wonder if McNamee asked for this even possibly since they didn’t have him come up…perhaps he didn’t want to be the token Extreme Emergency charity case given his IPP classification….no clue.

I have a few messages in to contacts to see if I can get any reasons…

"Token Extreme Emergency Charity Case" - That's funny. And yeah, if Havrisik is still with the team, it's unlikely McManus will be available Sunday. Bummer, especial if the team keeps playing below its collective pay grade. Arizona is better than Cincinnati IMO, and Murray can always cause trouble.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Has Havrasik cleared waivers yet? If he has, the Packers might even look at making a hole on the PS for him, if it looks like McManus might not be ready this week. Just guessing here that he'd be willing to take a paycheck for a couple of weeks. He's planning on being a substitute teacher so the pay would be pretty good by comparison.

Ty mentioned he's still on the roster, so he'll probably play Sunday.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Ya gotta hand it to the NFL when it comes to monetizing the business. Absolute masters of their domain.

Pretty easy, when you are light years ahead of any competition that dares to try and invade your monopolized market.

If someday the NCAA decides that their are no scholastic requirements and does away with the current 4 years of eligibility, the NFL might feel a squeeze on their market. That said, would OSU donors fork over enough to keep a star QB on their team for $75M a year? Probably not.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Has Havrasik cleared waivers yet? If he has, the Packers might even look at making a hole on the PS for him, if it looks like McManus might not be ready this week. Just guessing here that he'd be willing to take a paycheck for a couple of weeks. He's planning on being a substitute teacher so the pay would be pretty good by comparison.

No doubt that once McManus is healthy, Hav will be cut. If he clears waivers, then he would be the clear choice for the Packers to sign to the PS.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I will just put this right here for @tynimiller and everyone else to see.

Packers release international exemption

Mark McNamee is out, meaning that Lucas Havrisik is the Packers’ number two kicker moving forward.

www.acmepackingcompany.com

Thanks for the intel. I didn't see this. As long as they don't have to keep an international player around, this makes sense. Backup kickers are hard to find, and Havrisik did what he needed to do last Sunday.

Not sure if McManus will be ready Sunday. Hope so.

 

[Voyageur]

Ty mentioned he's still on the roster, so he'll probably play Sunday.

I stand corrected. You're right. The article was a mistake on their part. They were identifying the international player cut from the PS as being Havrisik. Thanks for correction. I do think that when McManus is back, they will try to stash him though because leg injuries have this nasty way of cropping up again after we do physical things again.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I stand corrected. You're right. The article was a mistake on their part. They were identifying the international player cut from the PS as being Havrisik. Thanks for correction. I do think that when McManus is back, they will try to stash him though because leg injuries have this nasty way of cropping up again after we do physical things again.

Credit goes to Poker for catching this one.

 

[red4tribe]

I really don’t understand the team’s handling of McManus. If he isn’t 100%, and we need to carry a second kicker for that reason, why is McManus still kicking? Let him rest up.

Perhaps it’s just the lingering injury, but McManus has been killing us. I have a hard time blaming anyone for missing a 64 yarder, but that was one of the ugliest kicks I’ve ever seen.

 

[milani]

I really don’t understand the team’s handling of McManus. If he isn’t 100%, and we need to carry a second kicker for that reason, why is McManus still kicking? Let him rest up.

Perhaps it’s just the lingering injury, but McManus has been killing us. I have a hard time blaming anyone for missing a 64 yarder, but that was one of the ugliest kicks I’ve ever seen.

Because he saw that he was short with his first stick conventional style he figured he had to give the next one all the oomph he could find. That happens and mechanics go out the window. That is why I gave up golf 50 years ago. Got tired of having to play on the wrong fairway. FG try or Hail Mary. It was not going to succeed.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Because he saw that he was short with his first stick conventional style he figured he had to give the next one all the oomph he could find. That happens and mechanics go out the window. That is why I gave up golf 50 years ago. Got tired of having to play on the wrong fairway. FG try or Hail Mary. It wasbnot going to succeed.

That's pretty damn funny milani - "tired of playing on the wrong fairway". I tried golf, but as with any other sport requiring hand/eye coordination, I was just awful. I was ok at bowling, and a decent "pick up game" QB before high school, for what that's worth. So I guess I was ok at throwing a ball. But baseball, tennis, racquetball, basketball, and on - forget it. I couldn't even hit a slow-pitch softball.

I wouldn't have your fairway problem though - because I couldn't hit a ball that far off the tee, much less without a tee.

 

[milani]

That's pretty damn funny milani - "tired of playing on the wrong fairway". I tried golf, but as with any other sport requiring hand/eye coordination, I was just awful. I was ok at bowling, and a decent "pick up game" QB before high school, for what that's worth. So I guess I was ok at throwing a ball. But baseball, tennis, racquetball, basketball, and on - forget it. I couldn't even hit a slow-pitch softball.

I wouldn't have your fairway problem though - because I couldn't hit a ball that far off the tee, much less without a tee.

Hilarious!! My baseball swing did not work for me in golf. One time in Hawaii I hit the side of a high rise condo. Another time in Vegas I hit some player on the fairway in the leg. And to top that off I sliced a drive over a fence on the right side of the fairway and the ball hit the curved center of the road and bounced back over the fence and back onto the fairway. I knew this was not my game. So I took up tennis instead.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Hilarious!! My baseball swing did not work for me in golf. One time in Hawaii I hit the side of a high rise condo. Another time in Vegas I hit some player on the fairway in the leg. And to top that off I sliced a drive over a fence on the right side of the fairway and the ball hit the curved center of the road and bounced back over the fence and back onto the fairway. I knew this was not my game. So ai took up tennis instead.

OMG milani - yeah neither of us belong on a golf course.

Tennis is better for you anyway. I really wish I could play some of these sports (except golf). Then again, I never had a chance to damage my rotator cuff, and that came in handy when I had to get my left shoulder replaced 3 months ago. With an intact RC, the procedure leaves the joint in the same anatomical state. If the RC is damaged, a reverse replacement is required, with the socket on top of the upper arm (humerus), and the ball placed on the end of the clavicle.

A lot of people have damaged their RCs through racquet sports, or contact sports - football esp.

 

[gopkrs]

Because he saw that he was short with his first stick conventional style he figured he had to give the next one all the oomph he could find. That happens and mechanics go out the window. That is why I gave up golf 50 years ago. Got tired of having to play on the wrong fairway. FG try or Hail Mary. It was not going to succeed.

They said it was a very bad snap also. I don't know why Love didn't really try to complete that 4 yarder in the last seconds.

 

[OldSchool101]

Because he saw that he was short with his first stick conventional style he figured he had to give the next one all the oomph he could find. That happens and mechanics go out the window. That is why I gave up golf 50 years ago. Got tired of having to play on the wrong fairway. FG try or Hail Mary. It was not going to succeed.

Good points Milani. The only thing I’d point out in that FG. IMO a Hail Mary has a better chance of a Win.
We know that Rodgers used to sling some and our LOS was as far back as our 40 yardline area (Detroit Miracle) Here we were past midfield, so we’re throwing from just inside the 50 yardline on the Eagles side. While not easy, if Love has 3.5 seconds of time he can easily reach the paint and guys will be there when the ball drops.
We also have Watson 6’4” 38.5” vertical and Musgrave 6’6” 36” vertical and Wicks 6’ 1.5” 39” vertical. Your minimum is Bo at a 5’11” 38” vertical. These were guys who were picked for their athletic testing as your Receiving targets. Use them.
Hard to out jump 6’4 and 6’6 when they also have bigger Verticals.

Personally I would not have kicked that unless on the preceding play we picked up 4-6 yards and get out of bounds. In the colder weather I’m guess but that’s really more like a 70 yarder feel. Which I’m guessing is why the ball sailed away. McManus had to crush that ball and you’ll lose accuracy.

No. I would’ve rolled out and thrown the 50 yard pass. If you catch you Win. Might’ve thought differently if a TD was worth 3pt. Here even if you make a 69 yard feel Kick? You still didn’t Win.

PS. I’d add that part of the reason it going wide doesn’t bother me? Yiu can have the most accurate Kick in the world. If it doesn’t travel 65 yards it’s a meaningless Kick. Lean distance over accuracy. Very similar to the concept of not throwing a Hail Mary out of bounds. I’d rather it comes up 15 yards short in bounds than land in the chalk.

 

[milani]

OMG milani - yeah neither of us belong on a golf course.

Tennis is better for you anyway. I really wish I could play some of these sports (except golf). Then again, I never had a chance to damage my rotator cuff, and that came in handy when I had to get my left shoulder replaced 3 months ago. With an intact RC, the procedure leaves the joint in the same anatomical state. If the RC is damaged, a reverse replacement is required, with the socket on top of the upper arm (humerus), and the ball placed on the end of the clavicle.

A lot of people have damaged their RCs through racquet sports, or contact sports - football esp.

Ironically, my right shoulder got torn up in my senior year, not from sports but from taking some girl roller skating. It popped out like 7 times before surgical repair. I lost al the elasticity and could no longer throw a baseball more than 100 feet. So tennis, for some reason, over team, was like therapy and I played for 42 years.

 

[milani]

Good points Milani. The only thing I’d point out in that FG. IMO a Hail Mary has a better chance of a Win.
We know that Rodgers used to sling some and our LOS was as far back as our 40 yardline area (Detroit Miracle) Here we were past midfield, so we’re throwing from just inside the 50 yardline on the Eagles side. While not easy, if Love has 3.5 seconds of time he can easily reach the paint and guys will be there when the ball drops.
We also have Watson 6’4” 38.5” vertical and Musgrave 6’6” 36” vertical and Wicks 6’ 1.5” 39” vertical. Your minimum is Bo at a 5’11” 38” vertical. These were guys who were picked for their athletic testing as your Receiving targets. Use them.
Hard to out jump 6’4 and 6’6 when they also have bigger Verticals.

Personally I would not have kicked that unless on the preceding play we picked up 4-6 yards and get out of bounds. In the colder weather I’m guess but that’s really more like a 70 yarder feel. Which I’m guessing is why the ball sailed away. McManus had to crush that ball and you’ll lose accuracy.

No. I would’ve rolled out and thrown the 50 yard pass. If you catch you Win. Might’ve thought differently if a TD was worth 3pt. Here even if you make a 69 yard feel Kick? You still didn’t Win.

PS. I’d add that part of the reason it going wide doesn’t bother me? Yiu can have the most accurate Kick in the world. If it doesn’t travel 65 yards it’s a meaningless Kick. Lean distance over accuracy. Very similar to the concept of not throwing a Hail Mary out of bounds. I’d rather it comes up 15 yards short in bounds than land in the chalk.

I think in lieu of several 60 plus kicks this season McManus and MLF were hoping for a miracle. A Hail Mary would have been better although very slim. Last year with Willis in for Love the final play against Philly needed to be a Hail Mary but he got sacked.