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No one can possibly prove this wrong. Just like likewise you cant say Rodgers still wins back to back MVPs if we take maybe Tee Higgins.

I personally believe Rodgers struggled under MM because his scheme was bad. I think he struggled year one under Lafleur because a new scheme. Historically the Shannahan system struggles year one or two everywhere it has gone and booms moving forward. Offenses take time even for the best QBs. Instead of the Packers even taking te time to build around an already good QB they were ready to cast him off and ultimately set us back a season in roster management.

I think at this point just based off of what we have gotten out of Jordan Love, considering he cost us a 1st and a 4th, it was a bad pick. Not only have we gotten minimal impact in terms of quantity of play but also quality of play. Both of those cannot be proven wrong regardless of circumstance.
My opinion he didnt want to play for mm anymore

Matt he wasnt sure if he had the energy to re learn stuff..im pretty sure that 1st year matt was getting his input..but matt grew on him and now he truly loves playing for him.

Again my opinion.

Wo Love I dont feel Rodgers takes notice and tried to fix anything
 

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Agreed. They need someone, period. And AR threw to rookie WR almost EVERY SEASON, hell, he threw to Amari last year, he looks bad. If a player is open, get him the ball.
He threw to him 8 times in 18 games
Maybe less in any of those targets were from Love against KC
 

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Packers doing Packer things. They watched everyone trade wrs and trade up for WRs who needed wrs and they just sat there and watched. I have low expectations for this team when it comes to drafts. They never fail to disappoint. Ever. Can’t wait to see the defense ball out again just for the offense to stink in a playoff loss yet again. Smh
 

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Why burn a first round pick chasing one? Rogers has maybe 2 years left. Build a solid base for the future
A solid base where?! I hate when oriel talk about building for the future with An all time great QB. This is when they should be trying to in NOW the most!
 

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I must say I am a little disappointed. Not in the draft picks but in the reactions. I was hoping for a little more despair after the Walker pick and certainly a complete meltdown after Wyatt. Oh well, there's always tomorrow and next week and the next 10 years.

As for day 2 my thoughts are that we could use our 2 picks to move up anywhere we wanted and depending how far we moved up we could possibly get a 3rd back. If I'm right that wouldn't be so bad if we could get our pick of the available WRs. We would still get our 5 picks in the first three rounds, heck maybe even throw in our comp pick to get the 3rd rounder even higher.
 

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And another defensive pick.... You lose so many receivers, SW is not a #1 WR. AR got signed with ZERO #1 wideouts, I honestly question if they have a honest #2, I don't follow this thought process.
Just the Packers doing Packer things. That’s why they haven’t won a SB or been back in over 10 years. They just like winning the North
 
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Watson Pickens Moore Metchie Pierce
Tolbert Austin Robinson Bell Velus

McBride Dulcich Likely Woods Kolar

These are all formidable in the receiving area… and anyone of them is a worthy player as a Day 2.

Without even trading..,
We select 3 times in the next 60 selections and 2 players over the next 27. I think we end up with 2 of this grouping. Possibly trading up for our choice at WR using a Day 3 pick
 
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What we thought might happen...happened.

Sadly, I think the run on WR's happens well before #22. Some of that will be influenced by all the expensive contracts signed by WR's in the offseason. Teams are going to want to grab one of the top 4-6 guys, even if it means passing on a CB, S, OL. I really hope that I am wrong. The Packers might get a shot at Burks or Olave at 22, but that might be it.

I just don't want it to turn into the 2020 draft and see Gute Richard around and end up with second tier WR's or none.

If a massive run happens on WR before our pick I’m pumped to see just which special defensive player falls to us then.
 

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I must say I am a little disappointed. Not in the draft picks but in the reactions. I was hoping for a little more despair after the Walker pick and certainly a complete meltdown after Wyatt. Oh well, there's always tomorrow and next week and the next 10 years.

As for day 2 my thoughts are that we could use our 2 picks to move up anywhere we wanted and depending how far we moved up we could possibly get a 3rd back. If I'm right that wouldn't be so bad if we could get our pick of the available WRs. We would still get our 5 picks in the first three rounds, heck maybe even throw in our comp pick to get the 3rd rounder even higher.
I think most people have realized that building a dome team doesn't cut it in January in Lambeau. Better to build a dominant defense and win the way the Broncos did in 2015 with Manning. All the Packers have to show with a passing first offense and lousy defense over the past 10 seasons are playoff chokes. Makes no sense to continue a formula that doesn't work.I love the committment to spend the first round picks on defense.
 

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He threw to him 8 times in 18 games
Maybe less in any of those targets were from Love against KC
The point is, he'll complete passes to receivers, regardless of what year it is for them. To think he only throws to receivers if their in their 2nd+ year is ludicrous. Anyone who thinks so makes me question if they have been watching him during his career. But, now Watkins, who graduated to a No. 2 last year, is probably going to be our No. 1 next season. This means we'll have to wish that a low score will win us some playoff games.
 

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My only "concern" with the 2 players drafted by the Packers....5 defensive players from Georgia went in the first round and Nakobi Dean will go early in Rd 2, making it 6. I think that is a record # of players on offense or defense from 1 team being selected in round 1. So the concern, are these guys collectively great and individually average or just all really good players? I hope the latter is true and the Packers didn't double down on average.
 
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I'm honestly at a loss on the Quay pick, I think this was a reach. It's almost like the GBP think there will be good receivers around forever.
I suspect when they couldn't move up to take any of the top WRs they decided to bolster the defense tonight instead. Taking any WR at #22 or 28 with the receivers still out there would have been a reach TBH. We took Adams in the 2nd in 2014 so we should be okay.
 

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When half the league starts panicking and going crazy to take receivers high or trade for them because the Jaguars juiced the market, the smart thing is not to panic.

Look at the organizations that traded away receivers and/or declined to draft them super high or trade up in order to do so:

Chiefs
Titans
Ravens
Packers

Now look at the teams that paid stupid money to receivers, traded for them, and drafted them high:

Dolphins
Jets
Jaguars
Saints
Falcons
Raiders
Lions
Eagles
Cardinals

What do you notice?
 
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I think we would’ve taken a top 5
But craziness happened and teams went wild.

It was a sign to switch gears. There was lots of Defenders sliding.
Both LB and DT are positions who get early work. We’re not anywhere close to being done. Well either get 2 more WR plus a TE or 1 of each … and bring in another veteran.
 

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I do not think we need to trade up in round 2. I would actually like to see us use our 3rd rounder and one of the 7th rounders to move up few picks in round 3 if necessary. Leaving out QB,RB,TE,LB &DL.
They have picks 21 & 27 tomorrow. Guys I like.
WRs- 6- Tolbert-Moore-Pickens-Watson-Metchie-Pierce
OL-5 Lucas- Rhyan-Salyer-Kinnard-Raimann
DBs-5 McCreary-Pitre-Brisker-McKinley-Gordon
E-4 Ebiketie-Jackson-Mafe-Enagbare

I will be cheering everytime a QB (Willis for sure, hopefully Howell or Corral also) a RB (Hall for sure, hopefully Walker or Spiller also) a TE (Hopefully at least 1) a LB (Dean, Harris, Muma are possibles) or a DL (Winfrey, Leal and Hall are candidates). That is not even including Ojabe. This of course is IMO. I am sure you could come up with your own list of 27 players.
 

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Glad to see we're addressing the defense. They couldn't pitch a shutout, so we lost in the playoffs.
 

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I do not think we need to trade up in round 2. I would actually like to see us use our 3rd rounder and one of the 7th rounders to move up few picks in round 3 if necessary. Leaving out QB,RB,TE,LB &DL.
They have picks 21 & 27 tomorrow. Guys I like.
WRs- 6- Tolbert-Moore-Pickens-Watson-Metchie-Pierce
OL-5 Lucas- Rhyan-Salyer-Kinnard-Raimann
DBs-5 McCreary-Pitre-Brisker-McKinley-Gordon
E-4 Ebiketie-Jackson-Mafe-Enagbare

I will be cheering everytime a QB (Willis for sure, hopefully Howell or Corral also) a RB (Hall for sure, hopefully Walker or Spiller also) a TE (Hopefully at least 1) a LB (Dean, Harris, Muma are possibles) or a DL (Winfrey, Leal and Hall are candidates). That is not even including Ojabe. This of course is IMO. I am sure you could come up with your own list of 27 players.
In general I agree actually. Though I worry if there’s another run on WR then they’ll be a bit picked over by the time we’re due up. But if we come away with two pass catchers and then just take BPA from edge, OL, or maybe even DB I’ll be happy enough.
 

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There was nobody there (WR) worthy of the 22 or 28 pick in their estimation.

Gute isn’t just some passive observer. He can alter his position or use picks as trade assets. Having an awful receiving group is a choice he’s making, it’s not some outside entity forcing it upon him.
 
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Gute isn’t just some passive observer. He can alter his position or use picks as trade assets. Having an awful receiving group is a choice he’s making, it’s not some outside entity forcing it upon him.
I think he’s confident in his ability as a GM. One of the main ingredients in trust is patience. He watched other teams swing wildly at WR. There were 2-3 he wasn’t going to touch and other teams just panicked. It looked near desperate at one point. Those GM’s that panicked lost a great deal of value because of their lack of prudence.
I saw GB just grab 2 of Georgia’s best Defenders. GB is 1 stellar Edge player and one good rotational DB from being a top 5 Defense. I think you’ll see 1 or the other or both added and The Packers drop to a top 8 Defense or better by seasons end.

The Offense will hold its own. Last season the OL was decimated and yet We ranked #10. If that’s a injury downtrodden season. What happens if they get Tonyan or Bak or Jenkins or Meyers back in the lineup?

Now comes the crafty part. What will GB do with the next 5 picks that matter.
 

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I think he’s confident in his ability as a GM. One of the main ingredients in trust is patience. He watched other teams swing wildly at WR. There were 2-3 he wasn’t going to touch and other teams just panicked. It looked near desperate at one point. Those GM’s that panicked lost a great deal of value because of their lack of prudence.
I saw GB just grab 2 of Georgia’s best Defenders. GB is 1 stellar Edge player and one good rotational DB from being a top 5 Defense. I think you’ll see 1 or the other or both added and The Packers drop to a top 8 Defense or better by seasons end.

The Offense will hold its own. Last season the OL was decimated and yet We ranked #10. If that’s a injury downtrodden season. What happens if they get Tonyan or Bak or Jenkins or Meyers back in the lineup?

That LB crew is going to be a wrecking ball for 4 years!

I get the love of defense but, as of now, I’m not seeing how this passing game is above average. Sure, the running game will be great but the offense is basically the Titans without the mutant RB, a better QB, and worse receivers. Gonna be a LOT on MLF to feature Watkins and Lazard as major threats in an elite offense.

Personally, i think Jones has 150+ targets next year and his arms literally fall off around week 15.
 
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