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Hey Ty who is Van? I’d like to take a look at the opinions on him. Thanks pal.
Van Jefferson, Florida
Hey Ty who is Van? I’d like to take a look at the opinions on him. Thanks pal.
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Jeudy
Ruggs
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Mims
Pittman
Aiyuk
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Hey Ty who is Van? I’d like to take a look at the opinions on him. Thanks pal.
- Lamb/Jeudy
- Ruggs
- Mims
- J.Jefferson
- Hamler
- Higgins
- Davis
- Pittman
- Aiyuk
- Reagor
Agree. There are a lot of talented WRs. But I feel Gabriel Davis is that Packers type of WR who we may select in the second or third, its more of a Ted Thompson pick. Similar physical measurement to Jordy, Adams and James Jones. 6'0 -- 6'3. 205-219lbs. Enough speed (4.5). With Consistent college production. I think J'Mon Moore/Yancey were players who they saw in that similar mold but couldn't run a decent route or catch. But this is the Gutekunst Era (he seems to like his WR taller), so far only J'Mon fits that TT WR mold but So I won't be surprised if they select someone like Gabe Davis anywhere from 2-4 round and then take a longer or athletic WRs in late round.I haven't watched Gabriel Davis. Just too many players this year, not enough time.
One thing that sticks out in my mind about Jefferson is that he caught 110 passes last year. That's a lot. That was something that stuck out to me about Jordy also who caught 120 passes at Kansas St. in his last season. Don't see much of a chance that Jefferson will be available though.
Someone, I forget who, compared JJ to Davante Adams at one point.
If we are talking about Fresno State Davante Adams, I actually think that's a great comparison. In college, Adams was a catch point winner who didn't create great separation consistently but came down with a lot of tough catches. His ball skills were his main strength as a prospect and his ability to defeat press was a concern.
Jefferson is similarly built and has similar play speed on tape despite his faster timed speed. And his strengths are the same-- catch point winner with ball skills. He doesn't separate very consistently on tape, and he never has to deal with press coverage.
Adams would go on, we all know, to become a press release magician, a stellar route runner, and an effortless separator. That, combined with his college traits, have made him one of the best in the game. But on the basis of who he was in college, he went in the 2nd round. That's where I feel Jefferson belongs. Maybe he crafts and demonstrates the same qualities that have allowed Adams to grow into such an excellent player. But maybe he doesn't.
So if someone wants to take him in the middle of round one, I will applaud the move. I'm all for 2nd round talents going in the top 29 picks.
I think Jefferson is more athletic than Adams but I also think he's much less refined at beating press coverage than Adams. I could be talked into him as a late first-round pick but I still would prefer Higgins, Pittman, Reagor, or Mims over him.
I think a lot of people will perceive Jefferson as being a better athlete because of his fast timed speed. I'm not so convinced. He isn't really that fast on tape. For instance, if you watch his game against Texas, safety Brandon Jones runs with him vertically, step for step, twice.
Jefferson's vertical was good, but Adams was 10 lbs heavier and jumped 2 inches higher. He out broad jumped Adams by three inches, but Adams had a 72nd% result in the three cone, which unfortunately we can't compare with Jefferson because he skipped the drill.
I think Jefferson could be a receiver who can become a legitimate deep-threat. He's faster, as a rookie, than Adams (and I'm not just talking 40 time). Adams is right there with Thomas as one of the best short-to-intermediate range receivers in the NFL but I don't believe Adams can match Jefferson's potential (important word with rookies) as a deep-threat.
But, of course, these are all just projections and opinions so who knows?
Pittman and Bowden would be a very fun combination.
Pittman and Bowden would be a very fun combination.
I am firmly planted in the I'd love Pittman or Edwards I think...which essentially means we either reach at #30, trade back and grab or hope one is there at #62. I believe both of them are the type of guys with very few unknowns, high floors and their worst cases played out are higher than some others like Reagor, Aiyuk and Mims - love all three but I do feel have a larger chance of bust than Edwards and Pittman.
The other possibility is to trade up from #62.
Yup, omitted the other option by mistake.
How dare you!
One interesting thing about Edwards-- he isn't often thought up as a YAC weapon because of his size (and because he's kind of the forgotten man in this class, generally), but just over 50% of his receptions in 2019 were screens (led the class). He can make things happen with the ball in his hands. Some have compared him to a bigger Deebo.
100%. He and Pittman unlike many of the "hot picks" have illustrated their abilities and skills over multiple years too.