The question Sandman are the Lions finally really ready for the Packer's big four? Postings on Packer forum mean nothing, that is decided on football field. I realize the Detriot Lion fans really need something positive to happen concerning this Detriot Franchise, as nothing has gone right for Lions for many, many years!! We went through two era of losing Packer football 1948- 1958 and 1968-1991(seemed forever) but we had Glory years Lombardi coached teams of the 60's and present era of 1992-present with no losing season and best win- loss record of any franchise since 1993. plus NFL best 12 NFL Championships. May be "Mooch" and Millen can get this Lion finally franchise straighten out, but probably not this year. I guess, we will find at end of '05 season, how successful they have been. Probably depends a lot on success at the QB position . Just like All State Ins., The Green Bay Packers are still "in Good Hands " #4 good hands!! I give you credit for still being optimistic about the Lions, after so many diappointments through the years with the lack of success of your Detriot Lions. You are just opposite of few of theseposters on this packer forum who predict dire things this season for the Packers and show no optimism for our team. They could take a lesson from you about remaining optimistic.