GleefulGary
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Brandon and I can dump all our crap in here so we don't ruin other threads.
You're welcome everybody.
You're welcome everybody.
Thanks. I was going to suggest PM, but this will work.
I did my first fan speak mock today and he was available.
1.1 Montez Sweat edge
1.2 Noah Fant te
2 Andre Dillard ot
3 Paris Campbell wr
4.1 Devin Bush lb
4.2 TJ Hockenson te (not sure how he was still here)
5 Carl Granderson edge
No. I want my thrashings of him to be public.
Brandon and I can dump all our crap in here so we don't ruin other threads.
You're welcome everybody.
i would rather see Simmons or D White at 12.....sweet is big reach.I did my first fan speak mock today and he was available.
1.1 Montez Sweat edge
1.2 Noah Fant te
2 Andre Dillard ot
3 Paris Campbell wr
4.1 Devin Bush lb
4.2 TJ Hockenson te (not sure how he was still here)
5 Carl Granderson edge
I agree. If either Mercedes or Lance come back this is not a move I would make unless there are extenuating circumstances. We have too many other needs. Although it wouldn’t hurt rounds 5-7 range if someone slips rounds.The Hockenson hype train had gotten out of control. I'd rather draft a RB early instead of a TE.
Keep thrashing away at 4.28 speed with an NFL body and major college production.
I'm not thrashing Campbell, it's you. Keep up.
Btw, I'm not disputing his speed. He's very, very, fast. He's also not going to run a sub 4.3 official time.
How could you possibly know that? they had a total of 22 receptions (1.4 receptions combined per game!) between the 2 of them. Think about that for a second Jeff Janis had more looks! We were too busy experimenting with a quadrifecta of inexperienced Rooks.Mercedes and Lance are both awful. They need to go away ASAP.
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I was able to watch two games of Campbell tonight. 2018 Washington and 2018 Michigan.
Shout out to Mark Jarvis (find him on Twitter). He has a Google doc with all of the draft eligible players, and film of the players there. Very nice resource.
Campbell is an incredible athlete. Great build, high tier explosion, very good in the open field. Those are his positives.
Against Michigan, Campbell statistically had his best game against a good defense. That's what you want to see. Campbell as a WR primarily lines up in the slot, or far inside in a bunch formation. His most common "route" by far is a little bubble screen that OSU runs a lot. It's their safety valve. Campbell does well here, when he catches the ball. Against Michigan he had two drops on easy catches...one on a slant, one on a bubble screen. OSU does not seem to target Campbell down field. Any talk of him being a deep threat is just false...OSU did not use him like that for a reason. Anyways, Michigan manned up a lot against OSU, so Campbell ran a few crossers which worked quite well bc of his speed. You can tell he's not a natural catcher though. See a lot of double catches and body catches. His one long TD came on a glorified run. A very good play, but context is needed when evaluating him as a WR. Toward the end of the game he did run a good post for a TD. Easily the best route I saw him run in both games.
Washington played more zone than Michigan, which completely took Campbell out of his game. Washington also has an excellent secondary, which hindered Campbell. Again, most of his targets and routes were the little bubble screen. Did have a nice route where he found a soft spot in the zone for a TD.
By quite a bit, Campbell's biggest weakness would be his hands imo. Watching him play, you can tell it doesn't come natural to him. Like I mentioned earlier, even when nobody around him, lots of double catches and body catches. That's why OSU didn't use him downfield that often. His other major weakness would be route running. He's awful at it. Just plain sloppy. I saw outs where he rounded them out too much, no pacing at all, a strong lack of awareness of zone coverage. I saw multiple times where rather than settling in a soft spot, he ran right into a defender. If a CB can press him and get his hands on him, it's game over. Very bad release. He is not a precise player, just relies on his athleticism.
OSU used him in about the same role they used Curtis Samuel, except they had Samuel run the ball more. The coaches there clearly did not view him as a downfield WR. I personally would be surprised if he tested faster than Samuel did, but I expect Campbell to be a sub 4.4 which is obviously blazing.
I think Campbell is a gadget player. You're going to have to use him like a Samuel, like a Cordarelle Patterson. Screens, some runs, return game. I think his route running and lack of situational awareness would drive Rodgers nuts.
With all that said, he is an elite athlete. There's a place for him on his team. Purely because of his athleticism, I think he might slip into the late 2nd. I think he's a 3rd round player based on what I saw on tape. I don't think he's a good fit with Rodgers, therefore not a good fit with the Packers. Any talk of him going 1st round is crazy. I'm being serious when I say I would bet a lot of money that he doesn't touch the first round.
Are you just finding random mocks that have us taking Campbell? Have you ever heard of confirmation bias?
Oh. Little hint. At least use a mock that has us picking in the right spot...we have the 30th pick, not the 32nd.
Are you just finding random mocks that have us taking Campbell? Have you ever heard of confirmation bias?
Oh. Little hint. At least use a mock that has us picking in the right spot...we have the 30th pick, not the 32nd.