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For all of you that hated the 2nd round pick of Neal, Read this.
Economic Realities l Packers Lounge
Economic Realities l Packers Lounge
We could have drafted Neal in the third or fourth round of the draft.. Most mock drafts had him going 5th or 6th round.. I wouldnt have minded the pick later on in the draft, but there were numerous players that could have helped our team at that spot when we could have gotten the pick we did later on.. We wouldnt have had to give up our 4th for Burnette and picked him in the 2nd, and picked neal in the third or fourth and still had an extra guy. IMO.
People said the same thing about Nick Collins when we took him in Round 2. They said TT way overreached for him and how stupid it was. I think it has turned out well for overreaching for Collins. Fact is we never really know when someone is gonna be drafted. Did anyone think Jimmy Clausen was gonna fall to where he fell, or that Tyson Alualu was going to be drafted so high? We hear what we hear from the network analysts and take that to heart, when in the war rooms they have a whole different draft board. Neal may have been gone in the 3rd Round and we would have had so settle for someone else. I'm not saying Neal is going to be a great player or anything, but I give TT the benefit of the doubt. He has proven in the past that he's a great evaluator of talent. If he found it too risky to wait to take Neal because he had him that high on his board and liked him that much, then I trust his decision to take him in the 2nd Round.
He was really great at evaluating Justin Harrell's talent..
He was really great at evaluating Justin Harrell's talent..
Want another?Neal was again impressive during Senior Bowl week, showing his quickness off the ball during practices. He tallied 1 tackle and 0.5 tackles for loss during the game, and continues to be a late second or early third round prospect.
Neal’s versatility, athleticism, and Senior Bowl performance have raised his stock. Originally a mid-to-late round prospect, Neal could go as high as the late second round, particularly if he runs a 4.8 this weekend. With that speed at over 300 pounds, at least one team would take a risk in round two.
We could have drafted Neal in the third or fourth round of the draft.. Most mock drafts had him going 5th or 6th round.. I wouldnt have minded the pick later on in the draft, but there were numerous players that could have helped our team at that spot when we could have gotten the pick we did later on.. We wouldnt have had to give up our 4th for Burnette and picked him in the 2nd, and picked neal in the third or fourth and still had an extra guy. IMO.
He was really great at evaluating Justin Harrell's talent..
Here'sa question that I have. I know that we have to keep the D-line fresh and well rested, but why do we have to do that so much with our team in particular? There are so many other teams that run a 3-4 yet our D-line seems like the only one that keeps needing a breather.
Harrell could have been a great player. TT can't tell the future to see a player is going to be injured constantly.
Claybillings is right. But you also have to consider packages. You might have a couple of DL who really shine against the run and a couple that can collapse the pocket and rush the pass better. So you typically would run the first group on first and second down while using the second group on third down (or whatever downs the opponent passes on based on their tendencies in film). Either way the 3-4 Dline gets hardly any stats and hardly any love, but they are very important.
Besides, if Neal can command a double-team every time he lines up, just like Pickett usually does, that is 4 offensive lineman blocking 2 defensive lineman when they play the same down. The math works out well in our favor.
I'm not quite sure as to what other teams you are referring to but look at almost all of the 3-4 teams and you will see that they have plenty of fresh bodies to bring in when the starters get tired.
And for an example of a 3-4 team that didn't do this, the SD chargers, once they lost Jamal Williams to injury, they didn't have the depth they needed along their defensive live and therefore everyone got tired and their defense suffered tremendously!
When it came to Justin Harrell being drafted by the Packers in the first round.........it was well documented by everyone and their mothers that he had a history of injuries. This may be my opinion......but you don't use a number one draft pick on a guy with a history of injuries. If he was injured a lot at the college level, how can we expect him to pan out at the next level? Brohm is another example of a high draft pick going to waste. If we draft a guy in the second round and he is cut a year later.........SOMEONE......was not doing their homework. If you want to draft someone with some question marks on them...........save it for the later rounds.Yup, gotta love the cherry pickers. I don't get why people expect 100% perfection out of every draft pick. Sure, I'd love for every pick we make to be a future hall of famer, but that's just not gonna happen. If we can get decent production out of half the guys we select each and ever year, we're doing pretty damn good.
I've maid that injury history point myself...When it came to Justin Harrell being drafted by the Packers in the first round.........it was well documented by everyone and their mothers that he had a history of injuries. This may be my opinion......but you don't use a number one draft pick on a guy with a history of injuries. If he was injured a lot at the college level, how can we expect him to pan out at the next level? Brohm is another example of a high draft pick going to waste. If we draft a guy in the second round and he is cut a year later.........SOMEONE......was not doing their homework. If you want to draft someone with some question marks on them...........save it for the later rounds.
With that being said, I totally understand drafting Neal in the second round because Jenkins or Jolly might be gone after this year. I think alot of people here didn't like the Neal pick because they wanted a CB or a OLB, which is a more pressing need to most.