bozz_2006
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this article states that because of the Giants' recipe for success (over-powering d-linemen) that d-line free agents are going to rake it in this offseason.
read it and weep
read it and weep
1. TT is a magician with money. If anyone can work this out, it's TT.
2. While a LOT of people here are Williams fans, I think we would be fine without him. We would bring someone in(FA or Draft) to add the depth.
I mean, look at Johnny(6th round) Jolly. Or Meir(whatever). We are good at picking up D-linemen.
And we still haven't even seen what Harrell has to offer yet, but the coaches still really like him(but what do they know).
tromadz said:1. TT is a magician with money. If anyone can work this out, it's TT.
2. While a LOT of people here are Williams fans, I think we would be fine without him. We would bring someone in(FA or Draft) to add the depth.
I mean, look at Johnny(6th round) Jolly. Or Meir(whatever). We are good at picking up D-linemen.
And we still haven't even seen what Harrell has to offer yet, but the coaches still really like him(but what do they know).
Williams got us 7 sacks from the DT position two seasons in a row. I don't think we have someone else who is that productive from the middle. I was hoping Cullen Jenkins would be that person, but he didn't do it in '07.
I'd rather have Williams, but I am confident TT & MM will make the right decision for the team.
bozz_2006 said:trusting your coach, GM, and front office is a nice feeling, isn't it?
1. TT is a magician with money. If anyone can work this out, it's TT.
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tromadz said:1. TT is a magician with money. If anyone can work this out, it's TT.
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I think it was more Andrew, since he was in negotiations for the contracts...
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bozz_2006 said:because it's just really easy to draft a stud DT, if need be. I'm not saying we break the bank over williams, but players like him don't come by every other day. replacing him would be very difficult, imo.
bozz_2006 said:agreed. but Williams is a proven commodity who can get the job done as the starter. jolly, harrell, and cole were very good and have a lot of upside, but williams is the man. i don't disagree that they know what they're doing, i just think that williams is a very big part of what they're doing.
Why not just tag him for a year so you have more time to evaluate the younger guys. Then after next season, we will no exactly what we have at DT. I think Jolly was outplaying Williams at the beginning of the season.
Would you pay over 6 million dollars for a player who will rotate in rather than being a full time player or would you rather sign a DE like Justin Smith or Jared Allen long term and then just kick Cullen Jenkins back into the DT rotation.
bozz_2006 said:Would you pay over 6 million dollars for a player who will rotate in rather than being a full time player or would you rather sign a DE like Justin Smith or Jared Allen long term and then just kick Cullen Jenkins back into the DT rotation.
Well, when you put it that way....
But, Jarred Allen is staying in KC, and Justin Smith might be more than the Packers are willing to pay, too. I think he was "franchised" (is that the correct way to say it? Franchise tagged? Tagged?) last season, so he'll want lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of money. i like our past couple of years' approach of front-loading contracts, but that's because they have all panned out to be decent players. if they didn't pan out, and the team ended up cutting or trading them, then it would't look like such a smart move. Anyway, i don't know what we'll do.
bozz_2006 said:porky88 said:Would you pay over 6 million dollars for a player who will rotate in rather than being a full time player or would you rather sign a DE like Justin Smith or Jared Allen long term and then just kick Cullen Jenkins back into the DT rotation.
Well, when you put it that way....
But, Jarred Allen is staying in KC, and Justin Smith might be more than the Packers are willing to pay, too. I think he was "franchised" (is that the correct way to say it? Franchise tagged? Tagged?) last season, so he'll want lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of money. i like our past couple of years' approach of front-loading contracts, but that's because they have all panned out to be decent players. if they didn't pan out, and the team ended up cutting or trading them, then it would't look like such a smart move. Anyway, i don't know what we'll do.
Allen wasn't franchised yet but probably will be unless a fallout happens. I wouldn't be shocked to see him not in a Chiefs uniform next year whether it be trade or signing elsewhere.
Smith the last I heard wasn't franchised or whatever. He was a year ago but I don't believe he was this year and I don't think he will be. If I had a choice of paying for Smith or Williams, I might take Smith because I think we're better at DT than we are at DE and Jenkins can just as easily move inside and become a pass rushing DT.