2020 Packers first round pick: Jordan Love, QB

[FaninColorado]

While drafting a WR wasn't necessary in the first round. I just find it to be a massive mistake to not at address the problem we have stopping the run. Currently, I'm not sure we are actually better than we were last year with Martinez at stopping the run. We probably are even worse since Kirksey isn't exactly a 3 down LB. Patrick Queen at 26 made amazing sense for this team. Our interior DL needs help still, ILB still needs addressing, WR#2 needs addressing, OT needs addressing, and maybe even at CB. That is 5 spots that desperately needed to be addressed before a backup QB.

Hoping the 2nd round brings in Shenault from Colorado in the 2nd and either Davis-Gaither from App. St or Logan Wilson from Wyoming in the 3rd.

 

[lambeaulambo]

Said every fan of a team who drafted a raw QB. Ever.

cheer up brother...if AR goes down this kid just may be able to show us something

 

[CanadaCheese]

Cannon fodder after the 3rd round???? You need to take a close look at All-Pro teams and NFL rosters to see where these guys beginnings in pro football started from.

Cannon fodder

 

[XPack]

I think MLF wants a talented guy who he can teach and who will run his offense the way he wants it run. Rodgers wants to be in control of everything around him. That's not going to work when you have a coach trying to install a whole new system. He compromised last year. I don't expect him to do that indefinitely. This pick was probably a signal to AR that he needs to get with the system 100% or be replaced.

Just surprising how this nonsense keeps persisting despite absence of even a shred of evidence to support this. It's like a self fulfilling prophesy.

What would happen on this Forum and around Packer Nation if we heard this tonight:

"With the 62nd pick in the 2020 NFL Draft the Green Bay Packers select Jacob Eason, QB, Washington"

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[PackinMSP]

While I dont agree with the pick bc I would have liked ILB or WR

I get it


Love may have been a Top 10-15 pick last year if he came out

 

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[FaninColorado]

Best twitter line out there:

"We've been saying all offseason that the Packers are a backup QB and a third-string RB away from a title"

 

[Steven J. Weissmann]

I like Dillon. I think he will contribute as a powerful runner, who will be tough to bring down. But with glaring needs for a defense that couldn't stop the run, as well as on offense, where Devonte needs another top tier receiver opposite him, or a tight end to help convert in the red zone, I don't agree with the choice. First a QB that will probably not see the field for 2 years, then a RB, even though Aaron Jones is coming off an exceptional season.....tough to see how the GM is gearing up to contend for a championship next season. Easier to see how he may be planning for 2022 or 2023.

 

[TornSolace]

It's over it's obvious gute wants to tank this season

 

[Pugger]

Packers GM Brian Gutekunst on what the Jordan Love pick means for Aaron Rodgers: "We’ve got the best quarterback in the NFL and we plan to have him for a while” on Love being Rodgers’ eventual replacement: “I don’t think you can put that on him right now”

I mean......... wot?

What else is Gute gonna say publicly about that?

 

[Pugger]

Manning had a neck injury that caused a loss of arm strength. That hasn't happened with AR. The problem with AR is that he doesn't have a front office that will get him enough weapons and has wasted his career.

You don't think 2 broken collarbones and leg injuries haven't had their toll on our HOF QB?

 

[Pugger]

I didn't like the pick at the time wasn't impressed with King and didn't like the fact he he recurring shoulder injuries we already had a lot of players on the roster that were constantly injured and I was hoping for a contributor that would play all 16 games.

I wish we would have taken TJ Watt instead too.

 

[Pugger]

That's about where I am. I'm not a fan of the trade up. It's one thing if he falls to you, another to go get him. But if he really is going to be that good and they believe in him that much, then I also believe when you have the opportunity to get a QB you think is that guy, you get him. a 4th rounder isn't too much to make the move.

I also take solace in Jenkins being our 2nd rounder last year and he was phenomenal. and guys like Jones were found in the 5th and we could move up to the 2nd again and if we end up with a "adams" and Jenkins type 2nd round i'll **** my pants.

So many more opportunities to come, so i'm not going to feel too much one way or the other yet.

Yes, giving up a 4th round pick to move up 4 spots in the first round doesn't seem too pricey to me.

 

[Pugger]

The strategy of drafting a QB and allowing him to sit behind a HOF yielded us 1 SB appearance and a lot of frustrating "what could have been". Having HOF QBs has yielded us 2 SBs in nearly 3 decades, mainly because we do the exact OPPOSITE of what KC has done- they don't surround him with talent, they don't hire good coaches, they have a very lackadaisical approach to roster building and winning and basically milk them for their own job security. So if he somehow becomes a HOF QB, the organization has shown very little in terms of being able to build a competitive roster. I'd rather see them go all in as well as a desire to do what is necessary. Now our worst fear is realized-the new regime is the same as the old regime. Get ready for another mediocre ride.

KC's QB is on a rookie contract so it is easier financially to surround that signal caller with talent.

 

[Pugger]

You'll change your tune if Rodgers goes down in a heap again.

Yes, like I said I'd rather have Love backing Rodgers than Boyle.

 

[Pugger]

What's laughable is the record without Rodgers since he became the starter, and the horrific defensive implosions in the playoffs. The teams haven't been good, and this would more or less be a cellar dwelling team without him

I can't think of many teams over the years that are good after the lose their starting QB.

 

[Pugger]

Packers are, right now, undoubtedly worse than they were last year from a personnel standpoint. Good news is that the players should make a leap in the second year under a new coach. I do think the 49ers, Saints, KC, and Baltimore are all better teams right now than the Packers though.

What positions do you consider we have gotten worse compared to last season?

 

[Pugger]

Worse at RT, better at LB, better at TE.

Better at WR

Yeah, I wasn't trying to imply that Love makes the WR room worse; I meant to state that drafting Love over WR/OT/CB hurts the team for at least the next 3 years.

But was there a better prospect than Love at that spot in the draft? Queen was the one I thought they were after when they traded up.

 

[Pugger]

Here's my question to some of you:

GB clearly isn't going to be picking early any time soon.

So at what point, is the right time to find the QB of the future? Now remember, no guarantees you'll find one with your late 1st pick! No guarantees you'll find one in later rounds. And if you're picking early, well, then we got big issues.

What I'm saying is that if they felt like they could find the future QB here, now, then it makes perfect sense to take him.

There is no guarantee you'll find one at any point in the draft. The history of the draft is littered with QB busts like crazy.

 

[Pugger]

Wow....16 pages in less than 24 hours.

After sleeping off my hangover(half Love, half Tequila), I'm thinking Gute is gambling on Rodgers not being here in 5 years. He's never mentioned retirement, but 5 years from now he'll be 42. While I would have hoped we got a QB in 2022, Gute has eliminated any guessing on who's going to replace him when he finally does. And I'm going to go ahead and assume that we're not going to see any picks allocated to QBs for the next 5 years either until Rodgers retires. The only reason to do so would be Love just being sub-par in the preseason and on backup duty for 4 years.

I like Jordan, I just don't like we traded up for him. We needed 3, possibly 4 difference makers out of this draft minimum.

Is moving up 4 spots late in the first round for a 4th rounder a huge move up all things considered? It isn't like we tried to move up inside the top 20.

 

[Pugger]

While drafting a WR wasn't necessary in the first round. I just find it to be a massive mistake to not at address the problem we have stopping the run. Currently, I'm not sure we are actually better than we were last year with Martinez at stopping the run. We probably are even worse since Kirksey isn't exactly a 3 down LB. Patrick Queen at 26 made amazing sense for this team. Our interior DL needs help still, ILB still needs addressing, WR#2 needs addressing, OT needs addressing, and maybe even at CB. That is 5 spots that desperately needed to be addressed before a backup QB.

Hoping the 2nd round brings in Shenault from Colorado in the 2nd and either Davis-Gaither from App. St or Logan Wilson from Wyoming in the 3rd.

How good was Queen at stopping the run at LSU?

 

[pacmaniac]

Well the good news is that the sooner Jordan Love takes over, the sooner we can win our one Super Bowl during his career.

 

[gbgary]

I cannot understand why people think the pick means re-building. Re-building is when you start to give away your good players so you can stack up on young ones. This is not that.

it's the beginning. they don't have the cap to keep their best guys. bulaga was the first. they'll extend 69 and Clark but Jones, King, Williams, and whoever else are strong possibilities for a walk. that running back last will replace Jones i'm thinking but it could be Williams. it'll be Rodgers in 2021 (if not sooner) if Love has anything. MLF wants to run the system Gute hired him to run.

 

[gbgary]

Packers are, right now, undoubtedly worse than they were last year from a personnel standpoint. Good news is that the players should make a leap in the second year under a new coach. I do think the 49ers, Saints, KC, and Baltimore are all better teams right now than the Packers though.

uummm...bulaga is about the only drop-off i can think of. am i forgetting someone else? funchis (sp) is an upgrade. i'd say they're about the same.

 

[gbgary]

After this season they'd save roughly 5 million in cap space.

In 2 years they'd save roughly 22 million

If they parted ways after 3 they'd save roughly 25

So pretty much Rodgers has 2 more seasons no matter what.

He'll be here 3 more if he regains a semblance of his old form but if Love looks great in practice this is the point they might decide to move Rodgers if a haul is available

Only way Rodgers plays the final year of his contract here is if he's playing well and Love has been really bad in practice

considering the politics and if Love shows anything i think they'll take the $5m.