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Who can hang with Pats? Greenbay can

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by DGB454, Nov 28, 2007.

  1. DGB454

    DGB454 Cheesehead

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    I am guessing that since this came out on 11-22-07 that a lot of you already read this. I didin't see any mention of it on here so here is the link.


    CBS Sports


    DETROIT -- Aaron Kampman, the Green Bay Packers' all-everything defensive end, was asked late Thursday afternoon if he thought his team could match up with the New England Patriots, the team that many are saying is unbeatable.

    Fresh off their impressive 37-26 dismantling of the Detroit Lions at Ford Field, which wasn't that close, it was a logical question to ask any of the Packers in their celebratory locker room.


    Charles Woodson's coverage is vital to the Packers, but his toe injury could be a problem. (AP)
    "That's not for me to decide," Kampman said. "That's for the prognosticators and people like that to decide."

    So here I go: The 10-1 Packers are the team that has the best ability to match up with the Patriots in the entire league. Yes, better than the Dallas Cowboys, who Green Bay will play next week for NFC supremacy, and better than any other team in the AFC, including the injury-depleted Indianapolis Colts.

    The main reason is Brett Favre, but there are many others, which we will detail. Favre, the ageless one, showed his right arm off again against the Lions, looking every bit as good as he did when he was a three-time MVP award winner.

    Favre completed 31 of 41 passes for 381 yards and three touchdowns. During one stretch, he completed a team-record 20 consecutive passes and even the incompletion to break that streak was caught, but receiver Koren Robinson was ruled out of bounds.

    "When his game elevates, it's scary," Packers receiver Greg Jennings said.

    Playing in a spread formation most of the afternoon, and taking snaps out of the shotgun, Favre played pitch-and-catch with the Lions defense. He threw on 31 of the Packers' first 34 snaps as they decided to take advantage of the Lions secondary. It was really this simple: Ball snapped, quick look, ball out, receivers run.

    It was also a treat to watch, better than winning the wishbone break from the Thanksgiving Day turkey.

    "It's been very good for us," Favre said of the spread offense.

    That style of offense run by Favre is like watching an ace surgeon with a scalpel, the precision of it all being what transfixes you.

    Farve threw to eight different receivers, many times making short throws that turned into good plays with their run-after-the-catch ability. Donald Driver led all receivers with 10 catches for 147 yards. He has been with Favre since 1999, longer than any of the other receivers, so when he talks about his quarterback it means something.

    "When I came in 1999 he was playing the same way he is now," Driver said.

    And to think it almost didn't happen, that we would be missing this. Favre considered retiring after last year, but decided to come back for this season -- and now there is talk of maybe even more. Why not?

    He's playing at a high level and he's truly enjoying himself. You can see it in the way he smiles during games and you can feel it when he talks about this team.


    "I consider us lucky, pretty good and unknown," Favre said. "The different scenarios that we've had to use to win games makes you think this team may be pretty good."

    Wrong. They are very good. The Packers have averaged 33 points a game in their past four, so they can score enough to stay with the Patriots. That will be the key to playing with them or beating them since they will get theirs. Even when it goes slow like it did against the Lions at the start -- they fumbled their first offensive play -- they're good enough to overcome it.

    The doubters will say the Packers, who are dead last in the league in rushing, don't run the ball well enough to win in the postseason. But they brush off that notion, and they should. Their short passing game is their running offense. We saw a lot of that against the Lions.

    It is somewhat eye opening to look at the stat sheet at halftime and see they had four runs and finished with 17 for the game.

    "It doesn't matter what we do as long as we score and we were scoring," running back Ryan Grant said of his inactivity. "That's all that matters. We can run it when we have to."

    They did late. Grant finished with 101 yards on 15 carries, including 48 yards on Green Bay's final drive to get a game-clinching field goal with 1:44 left. Favre admitted after the game that the Packers will need to be a little more balanced, but if they play the Patriots down the road it won't matter.

    We might have football heaven: Two teams that won't hand off.

    In addition to their ability to score, the Packers have several other things that make them the best threat to the Patriots -- if they get there.

    One is Kampman and his fellow defensive linemen. The Packers are 10 deep up front, with Kampman being the best of the group. He's on his way to the Pro Bowl and had two sacks against the Lions to give him 11 for the season.

    The two-sack total doesn't do him justice. Kampman was in the Lions backfield all day long, dominating backup tackle Blaine Saipaia to the point where Kampman could have been arrested for that type of abuse. When he bull-rushed him on one pass play, knocking him to the ground, it was a sad thing to watch.

    "Pretty good day," Kampman said.

    Eventually the Lions wised up and started helping Saipaia with a back to stop the abuse. But by then Jon Kitna's feet were happier than a fat kid sitting at the Thanksgiving Day table.

    The other thing that makes the Packers a good matchup for the Pats if they do meet is that they have quality cover people. Charles Woodson and Al Harris are the best corners in the league.

    But even when Woodson left in the second quarter with a toe injury, the youngsters who took over, guys like Frank Walker, Jarrett Bush and Tramon Williams, played well. Bush is the team's nickel corner, but he might be forced to start next Thursday's big game with the Cowboys at Texas Stadium. Woodson's toe could keep the best corner in the league out.

    That game will likely decide who has the home-field advantage in the NFC playoffs.

    Even if the Packers lose that game, I still think they are the best matchup for the Patriots because they have better cover people than the Cowboys, who lost to New England earlier in the season.

    So listen up. Green Bay is for real and they can play with the Patriots. Imagine that Super Bowl? First one to use a running play loses.

    How good does it get?
     
  2. bozz_2006

    bozz_2006 Cheesehead

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    Why would Wood's toe injury keep Al Harris out of the game?
     
  3. nathaniel

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    AHHH...I don't like being hyped!
     
  4. packer_backer

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    i think woodson is better than harris. he's more of a playmaker and he's faster, quicker and has better instincts. the only thing harris has on woodson is strength and more physical. nothing against al.
     
  5. bozz_2006

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    they have different styles of play. both are top tier players
     
  6. IronMan

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    I agree. I'm glad they're both on the Packers thats for sure.
     
  7. Greg C.

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    I still think Harris is better, because he matches up with the opposing team's best receiver and almost always shuts them down pretty well. But the important thing is that they're both very good and they complement each other perfectly.
     
  8. scotty

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    Woodson is the man. I love that he wants to return kicks as a way to be more involved in the game. He's pretty fearless and he's a playmaker. Here's to Woodson getting completely healthy, and fast!

    No doubt I love Harris, too.
     
  9. bozz_2006

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    the similarity: both bump hard on the line and are very good at playing man on coverage
    difference: Harris then sticks to the receiver like glue for the duration of the play, leaving the QB no window to throw. Woodson then plays loose, daring the QB to throw the ball.
    Different methods, equally effective. Furthermore, Harris's style of play forces the QB to play to Wood's strenght, and Wood's style of play forces the QB to play to Harris's strength.
     
  10. Greg C.

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    Yes! That's it exactly. Good post.
     
  11. Packnic

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    im impressed bozz...
     
  12. longtimefan

    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Pick your poison cyanide or anthrax ( Al has said doesnt matter which one he is, both will kill ya )
     

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