Owners? More than just 1 thats for sure. Ralph Wilson. Bill Ford. Bud Adams. After that you have teams that have been owned by the same family for a very long time. Irsay. Halas. Brown. Hunt. Mara. Davis (You have 1 draft without AL I believe). Rooney.How many owners/GMs/head coaches in 1970 are still owners or in the same job today? I believe the answer is "none" other than the owners of the Green Bay Packers.
Owners? More than just 1 thats for sure. Ralph Wilson. Bill Ford. Bud Adams. After that you have teams that have been owned by the same family for a very long time. Irsay. Halas. Brown. Hunt. Mara. Davis (You have 1 draft without AL I believe). Rooney.
I stand corrected...sort of. In my mind, "family" doesn't count. An aged owner may have his name on the masthead in some emeritus position, but that does not mean he's making any personnel decisions. Ford, Mara, Hunt, Rooney, Halas, Irsay, Brown, Davis...most of the guys we associated with those names in 1970 are dead (some long gone) or already succeeded in decision-making. Assuming successors view the draft in the same way, being the son or otherwise, counts for little. For example, connecting drafts under Virginia McCaskey, her clown of a son, or his successor to the drafts under George Halas is pointless.
That leaves Wilson (age 95) and Adams (age 90). I'll give you those two...maybe. Living in Buffalo this past year, I can say with some confidence Ralph Wilson has no engagement in the draft...the closest he might come to a personnel decision is a yea/nay on a big contract a la Mario Williams. He pretty much confines himself to matters like getting money to rehab the stadium.
So, Adams seems to talk from time-to-time like he's still involved in some football operations matters, but who knows if he actually looks at any college tape.
I honestly have no idea how long our scouts have been with us. I know some stay with teams for decades.
What about Ford?
Al Davis didn't run one draft since the study and I doubt anyone was more hands on than him so I would count him as well.
Bill Ford, Sr. is 88 years old and holds only the Chairman title, appropriate since he is still the owner on paper. He falls in the figurehead category. Bill Ford, Jr. is the Vice-Chairman and he runs the show. Heck, Millen was CEO when he was ******** the pooch...he was calling all of the football operation shots and then some. Then it was Jr. who overruled the old man and got Millen fired, to the benefit of the organization. Sr. has been a figurehead for some years now.
Nonetheless, Davis is dead now, though from the standpoint of the study the Raiders might be the only team worth looking at going back to 1970.
Adams still holds CEO and President titles which suggests he is still active in managing the franchise...he's the only guy left who may...and that's a "may"...make football operations decisions from time-to-time, but he's likely quite a few years removed from deciding who should be graded 2nd. round on the draft board.
Hey you made the assertion that no team besides the packers has had the same owner, changing your parameters after the fact doesn't change that some teams have had the same owners and others have kept it in the family (stability).
Exactly my thoughts. This would be more appropriate if it were GM specific.
It's also worth noting that the scouts making up an organization can make a difference too. If Scout A is known to be a much better judge of NFL success, a team may go with Scout A's recommendations over Scout B's recommendations. That could lead the a flawed conclusion that the team or GM likes a school, when in fact they just prefer a certain scout's judge of character
Like I said..."I stand corrected...sort of." I would not have said "sort of" had you not dragged in all the dead guys as a counter argument. George Halas has been dead for 30 years, for criminy's sake.
You persist in making the assertion, evidently, that the son follows the father down to his preference in college programs, without support and with no reason to believe he would. Sons and daughters are not their dead fathers.
Like I said, technically speaking, you are correct on Wilson, Adams and Ford Sr. From the point of view of the study, Davis is likely the only one that matters.
You said only the packers. That is not "sort of" untrue. It's completely untrue. No matter the number.
The "sort of" derives from the fact that I could not stand myself corrected in an unqualified way when your post was full of inaccuracies.
Other than that, have it your way.
"Full of inaccuracies"?!?
Those teams were not owned by those families? Those people don't own those teams?
Keep digging. You might hit china.
Or you couldn't stand someone correcting you.
Nothing wrong with being corrected, think of it as you learned something today.
Of course the Packers recently lost long-time personnel guys, John Dorsey, Reggie McKenzie, and Shaun Herock.
He's often overlooked BY ME!!! Thanks for that reminder, I think it's "only" the second or third time you've reminded me. I swear while I was typing that last sentence I was thinking 'I am forgetting someone' and sure enough...I don't know why it is, but John Schnieder is often overlooked when citing front office losses.