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I bought a new car on a credit card believe it or not. It was approved. I did it so I could get the cash discounts from the manufacturer and dealer, and then went to my bank and got a loan to cover my credit card. I ended up saving over $5,000 at the dealership and another 4% in my loan at the bank compared to normal lines of credit for vehicles. I just used the collateral on my home to make it happen and it took one day to pay off the credit card and I got another 2% back from them as well. In the end, including through the entire process of paying off the note, I saved over $9,000 from what I could figure out.
I call that smart and creative purchasing. Like I said, if you know how to use credit cards, they are a wonderful thing. If you "take advantage" of all their bonuses, without paying any fees or interests, you did good! If there is no added fee to buy big tag items, I love putting them on my credit card, earning the points and then just paying it off before any interest is accrued. Now if I go into a Mom and Pop store, I always pay cash, I don't want them having to pay that damn CC fee for me doing business with them.

I can't tell you how many bank accounts I have opened up to take advantage of their "We will give you $200-500 if you bank with us" promotions. Now some of them require that you pay a few of your bills through them, at a fee, which I won't do. However, many of them just want your business and figure that over time, they will make way more than that back from having you as a customer. Not me, I keep the account idle and open as long as I have to and then just close it out. :whistling:
 

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I call that smart and creative purchasing. Like I said, if you know how to use credit cards, they are a wonderful thing. If you "take advantage" of all their bonuses, without paying any fees or interests, you did good! If there is no added fee to buy big tag items, I love putting them on my credit card, earning the points and then just paying it off before any interest is accrued. Now if I go into a Mom and Pop store, I always pay cash, I don't want them having to pay that damn CC fee for me doing business with them.

I can't tell you how many bank accounts I have opened up to take advantage of their "We will give you $200-500 if you bank with us" promotions. Now some of them require that you pay a few of your bills through them, at a fee, which I won't do. However, many of them just want your business and figure that over time, they will make way more than that back from having you as a customer. Not me, I keep the account idle and open as long as I have to and then just close it out. :whistling:
I only did that once, but it was slick how well it worked. My wife was skeptical when I did it but when it worked out so well, she just said, "Don't do it again!" I haven't. Of course, I haven't bought another car since then either.

You're doing creative banking. I like that. The old "give me the free toaster plan."

We have 3 checking accounts/bank accounts. One with her Social Security mine with another bank. We get free checking by direct deposit on them. The third account is so we could get an HEB grocery debit card which gives us a 5% discount on any of their store brand items we buy. It's made us more aware of buying their generics which are cheaper, plus we get that additional 5% off. Works out nicely. That account is free because we're senior citizens.

When you're retired you become frugal. I have other things I like to spend money on. So does my wife.
 
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If the NCAA were smart, they would just change the rules on years of eligibility.

Let "kids" play until they are 40+. Let them enroll as grad students, TA's or professors.

All the money going to the NFL and NBA would slowly get switched over to NIL money and Transfer Portal money.

Bye Bye NFL and NBA!
 

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If the NCAA were smart, they would just change the rules on years of eligibility.

Let "kids" play until they are 40+. Let them enroll as grad students, TA's or professors.

All the money going to the NFL and NBA would slowly get switched over to NIL money and Transfer Portal money.

Bye Bye NFL and NBA!
What you describe almost seems to be the Reality of today's NCAA round ball. Look at A.J. Storr. He's on his way to his 6th school in 6 years. The guy has played himself into a corner.
 
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What you describe almost seems to be the Reality of today's NCAA round ball. Look at A.J. Storr. He's on his way to his 6th school in 6 years. The guy has played himself into a corner.
Saw that, I thought it was like 8 schools? 4 in HS and soon to be 4 in college.
 

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For those of you who remember what I mentioned about NIL and the University of Texas back a couple of years ago, this will give you an indication as to how NIL is being used to exploit football players. It's out there, and there are those who know about it, and nobody wants to talk about it. It's a mess and will remain that way until something is done that will straighten this mess out. Obviously, it won't be through those institutions benefiting from the NIL money so it's up to the rest of them to take action and for TV consortiums to categorically state they aren't going to be party to what's happening.

Nick Brooks is a young player coming into the UT program in Austin. He's getting NIL money and based on what we can see at this point, he was at a strip club somewhere in the 6th St. area, as an underage patron. He'd left the club itself to go to another location to pick up young guys a lot like himself, to take them to the club, in what can only be described at this point as potentially a "recruiting mission" so they'd sign to play for the Longhorns. Just the implications alone are an indictment of the Longhorn program and more than likely a similar scenario that's being played out at too many universities and colleges where young athletes are being courted to become members of the teams.

Now, if you didn't think what I said way back when was possible, what are you thinking now? As far as the school, they'll slap Nick with a penalty. Make him sit out a couple of weeks of practice or maybe even a game or two, but they'll explain to him it doesn't matter anyway because he's going to get more NIL money and be red-shirted for a year to make him even more money before heading to the NFL and at a higher value. The time he'll be sitting will be in his red-shirt year which would happen anyway.

 
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For those of you who remember what I mentioned about NIL and the University of Texas back a couple of years ago, this will give you an indication as to how NIL is being used to exploit football players. It's out there, and there are those who know about it, and nobody wants to talk about it. It's a mess and will remain that way until something is done that will straighten this mess out. Obviously, it won't be through those institutions benefiting from the NIL money so it's up to the rest of them to take action and for TV consortiums to categorically state they aren't going to be party to what's happening.

Nick Brooks is a young player coming into the UT program in Austin. He's getting NIL money and based on what we can see at this point, he was at a strip club somewhere in the 6th St. area, as an underage patron. He'd left the club itself to go to another location to pick up young guys a lot like himself, to take them to the club, in what can only be described at this point as potentially a "recruiting mission" so they'd sign to play for the Longhorns. Just the implications alone are an indictment of the Longhorn program and more than likely a similar scenario that's being played out at too many universities and colleges where young athletes are being courted to become members of the teams.

Now, if you didn't think what I said way back when was possible, what are you thinking now? As far as the school, they'll slap Nick with a penalty. Make him sit out a couple of weeks of practice or maybe even a game or two, but they'll explain to him it doesn't matter anyway because he's going to get more NIL money and be red-shirted for a year to make him even more money before heading to the NFL and at a higher value. The time he'll be sitting will be in his red-shirt year which would happen anyway.


While this kind of Tom Foolery and Shenanigans existed before NIL and the Transfer Portal, I agree with you. Both "programs" are way too loosely defined, enforced, navigated, etc. and if it continues this way, will put such a large black eye on NCAA sports, that fans and financial supporters may just say "F it".....I am really close to being at that stage.
 
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Is NIL money simply what the player gets from advertising?
No, not really.

It is money that they may receive from 1 or more sources. The money allows for use of their name and likeness, but not longer does it really seem to be directly tied to "work for pay". Meaning, "Jones Fine Cars" doesn't give an athlete $1000 if they agree to doing 5 ads for them.
 

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Do they actually know how much money they will get for transferring, or do they just have a general idea and have to go with that?
Some of the players already have a sugar daddy program lined up for them when they hit the portal. It's becoming big time with them having agents which is now legal. The Badgers lost two guys to the portal that had big time NIL deals lined up for them before they pulled the plug in Kansas, and at Louisville. It's how the game is played now.

With a situation like what we saw in Austin, it's a matter of a kid being asked to "take cover of these potential recruits," so they go out and wine and dine them in ways that make going to your school is going to be awesome even beyond the cash you're going to get paid. Kind of "side benefits," with a "wink-wink!"

You can chart the teams who make it big in the playoffs and their NIL money out there. It's a sad situation.
 

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Not sad for the players I guess. And there has always been the wining and dining in colleges with wealthy alums. And jobs sometimes. Not saying I didn't like it better b4. But b4 there were only 5 or 6 bowl games. All played New Years Day. Fun day.
 

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I call that smart and creative purchasing. Like I said, if you know how to use credit cards, they are a wonderful thing. If you "take advantage" of all their bonuses, without paying any fees or interests, you did good! If there is no added fee to buy big tag items, I love putting them on my credit card, earning the points and then just paying it off before any interest is accrued.

Damn, brother! We're peas in a pod!!! ;)

Amy and I put every purchase and expense we possibly can on plastic, and between us we pay thousands in credit card bills every month (because she owns 3 LLCs, and we use credit cards for business expenses).


But we never pay a penny in interest. Every single statement balance is paid in full when due. She's a genius at finding the best rewards.

She's disabled, so I do all the shopping outside the house, and I carry all our cards in my wallet. I have to use a thick rubber band around my wallet to keep the cards from falling out... somewhere between 15 and 20, for both of our personal cards, all of our joint cards, and all of her businesses' cards. She has 4-6 banks and credit unions, I have 3-4. And we have worthwhile benefits from each of those institutions.

She constantly updates her list - "for gas, use best Buy card, all grocery purchases are Langley credit union, everything else is Ford Bronco card etc." It's a nightmare to keep up with (because I am always trying to find ways to make things more simple), but she's piled up huge numbers of frequent flyer miles, Amtrak miles, hotel credits, cash bonuses, gift cards, etc. We'll almost certainly never use all of them, but right now we could easily take a European vacation or a cross-country Amtrak trip.

Trouble is, she so badly disabled we're unlikely to ever be able to use them, but you never know. One scenario is that a day will come when we find she only has a limited time to live, and then out plan is just to spend miles - travel, see every part of the world together that we can, and if and when that day comes, we have that "bucket list" option in our back pocket.


Now if I go into a Mom and Pop store, I always pay cash, I don't want them having to pay that damn CC fee for me doing business with them.

Again, same here. I always carry several hundred bucks in cash for emergencies and to pay (as you say, mom and pop folks), and when I make a purchase at a locally owned franchise, I whip it out. There's a small, privately owned family pharmacy in a town 10 miles from us, and I drive there to pay cash to Blake rather than use Visa or Amex at a chain pharmacy a half mile from our house. I like Blake, and admire his courage in trying to start a small business in a competitive niche at the start of Covid. Amy and I both want to help him.

Plus, there's a Kentucky country boy who married a Thai woman and they run a Thai food truck on the way back from that pharmacy. So I can get a fantastic meal out of the trip, as well.

I can't tell you how many bank accounts I have opened up to take advantage of their "We will give you $200-500 if you bank with us" promotions. Now some of them require that you pay a few of your bills through them, at a fee, which I won't do. :whistling:

This is the part where I chortled and slapped my knee. You sure we're not separated at birth? Because I've never met anyone as into that as I am (or rather, as Amy is, because that's the reality).

As a retired banker, Heyjoe's just going to hate us both, but we've been doing this for 10 years or more. We actually have a pool of several thousand dollars set aside that are dedicated solely to this gambit - opening accounts, transferring money back and forth, and reaping the bonuses. With her LLCs, we can direct deposit money into new accounts (thus meeting the requirements of many of these offers), pay bills, whatever we need to do, and we make thousands of dollars per year - apiece.

There's no denying it adds up. It's not like we'd be broke without it, but there is a certain satisfaction to beating the banking industry at their own game while operating strictly within the rules that they have created.



Not me, I keep the account idle and open as long as I have to and then just close it out. :whistling:

Personally, I usually find ways and reasons to use the accounts in some fashion over a period of time, so that they can at least make a little money off of me. Amy? Not so much; sweet as she is, she's cut-throat when it comes to finances, whereas my business philosophy is to always leave at least something on the table so that the other party has gotten something out of it too. I wish she were not the way she is, but it is what it is.

Way I figure it, they target me because my FICO is way, way above 800, so they they think I spend a lot of money on plastic - so they can make money off of me on transaction fees.

And that's fine. I have no problem with that. Glad to do business with BoA on those terms.

But at least some part of that calculation is also the possibility that I may someday overextend and need to start paying interest on my credit accounts instead of paying them off each month. Part of their projection is that sometimes I am likely to carry a balance, and with my volume of spending, they're going to make a profit off of that.

That ain't ever gonna happen, because we always have cash reserves sufficient to cover any emergency shortfalls if they should occur. We can always move assets around to avoid interest, fees, and penalties. But they're hoping that at some point, we/I can not, and if that day ever comes, they'll make money off of me/us.

I don't feel the least bit guilty about beating them at their own game.
 
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When you're retired you become frugal. I have other things I like to spend money on. So does my wife.
The way I always looked at it is, the more money you **** away on things you did not need to pay for then, the less money you would have to spend on things you really want to have now.

I'm 67 years old, and all my life have been trying to live a life of financial responsibility and deny myself many things I would have liked to have owned or experienced (like that 2001 Corvette for 8K, and that property in Central California in 2009 for $1500 an acre that I found when i was hiking... or maybe that Alaskan cruise.... ). I passed on those things so that at this point in my life, I would not have to worry about paying for groceries, and that maybe I could indulge myself a little bit now.

I'm pretty pleased with those decisions and their outcomes.

Although sometimes I think i would have enjoyed that "scuba diving with the sharks" thing off of Madagascar or wherever with my friend Sharyn from Australia. Although.... there's probably no reason i can't still do it. :unsure:
 
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The way I always looked at it is, the more money you **** away on things you did not need to pay for then, the less money you would have to spend on things you really want to have now.

I'm 67 years old, and all my life have been trying to live a life of financial responsibility and deny myself many things I would have liked to have owned or experienced (like that 2001 Corvette for 8K, and that property in Central California in 2009 for $1500 an acre that I found when i was hiking... or maybe that Alaskan cruise.... ). I passed on those things so that at this point in my life, I would not have to worry about paying for groceries, and that maybe I could indulge myself a little bit now.

I'm pretty pleased with those decisions and their outcomes.

Although sometimes I think i would have enjoyed that "scuba diving with the sharks" thing off of Madagascar or wherever with my friend Sharyn from Australia. Although.... there's probably no reason i can't still do it. :unsure:

I'm the same way. I have never bought a new car, always used, always a few years old and always from a private seller. Sure, it is easy to go to a dealer, let them do all the work of holding the inventory of brand new vehicles and let you pick out the color you want. However, I can't justify the cost (to me) of doing that. Especially, when I can do a little research, some leg work and help another person, by buying their used vehicle, cutting out the middle man on both sides of the equation and saving both buyer and seller a lot of money.

For me, a vehicle gets me from point A to point B, I could give a crap as to what said vehicle looks like. Just give me a safe, reliable vehicle and I am a happy camper.
 
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The thing about credit cards is that a lot of people just dig great big holes for themselves.

Yup, I had a sister that did that from the moment she could get a credit card. She was the kind of customer that CC companies drooled over to get. Spending money that she didn't have.

Honestly, I think when it comes to the salary cap, the NFL lives like they are using credit cards. Signing big contracts and then pushing out as much of the cap, to deal with at a later date.
 

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