GakkofNorway
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he got 60 carries, with the 60 carries he got he showed that he was not worthy, hell I can rush for 2,9 yards per carry.
digsthepack said:You don't win SBs with "guys who don't lose games for you". I know that is what I would look for in a draft...someone who won't lose a game for you. WOW...talk about elevating mediocrity to the point of worship.
And I am not bashing you KRD...just vigorously disagreeing.
Kampmann is well above average, not a stud but far above average and a starter for 80% of teams in the league. But SB teams are built with guys like him.
GakkofNorway said:the fact is, Fisher isn't even mediocre.
porky88 said:What's with these ex Packer players bashing Green Bay?? I'm glad their gone... Flanigan, Longwell, Fisher.. None of them is a big lost.. except maybe Longwell.
krd005 said:digsthepack said:You don't win SBs with "guys who don't lose games for you". I know that is what I would look for in a draft...someone who won't lose a game for you. WOW...talk about elevating mediocrity to the point of worship.
And I am not bashing you KRD...just vigorously disagreeing.
Kampmann is well above average, not a stud but far above average and a starter for 80% of teams in the league. But SB teams are built with guys like him.
Cool digs don't worry man.........
I'm saying when he is healthy he is a good back. He did catch like 40 or so passes I think last year and didn't miss many blocks or fumble a lot So I think that makes him a quality back. A number 1 no but a back I would like to have on the roster.
You are right about SB teams being built with guys like him as role players not there stud. He is a good role player but a difference maker?
Flanagan, Fisher find new homes
Packers showed little interest in veterans
By BOB McGINN
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Posted: March 23, 2006
Green Bay - Center Mike Flanagan and running back Tony Fisher, a pair of smart, savvy veteran players, signed with new teams Thursday after being given short shrift in free agency by the Green Bay Packers.
Tony Fisher will be a backup with the Rams after four seasons as the Packers No. 3 running back.
Flanagan received a three-year contract worth $9 million from the Houston Texans, where he will be reunited with assistant head coach and offensive line coach Mike Sherman. He will get a $3 million signing bonus.
Fisher accepted a one-year deal for not much more than minimum salary from the St. Louis Rams. His deal contained a modest signing bonus.
Meanwhile, the Packers are among at least three teams expressing an interest in Oakland Raiders cornerback Charles Woodson. His agent, Carl Poston, said he was trying to schedule Woodson for a visit to Green Bay next week. He was to visit Tampa Bay today and probably Seattle over the weekend.
Woodson, 29, suffered a broken leg in Week 6 and spent the rest of the season on injured reserve. He has started 103 of 106 games since joining the Raiders as the fourth pick in the 1998 draft, and has 17 interceptions. Last June, Pro Football Weekly ranked Woodson as the ninth-best cornerback in the National Football League.
Although the Packers said they wanted Flanagan and Fisher back, their actions suggested that they didn't. Agent Jim Steiner indicated that there was no reason for him to get back to club negotiator Andrew Brandt this week because Green Bay's offer wasn't sufficient.
"Were they in it?" Steiner asked Thursday night. "They never really stepped up. They were very limited with their financial parameters."
Green Bay is about $20 million beneath the salary cap, a total exceeded by only two or three teams.
Flanagan, 32, will assume the starting center job on what might have been the worst offensive line in the NFL.
"Mike is excited," Steiner said. "He set parameters himself and stuck to it. Either someone had to meet it if they wanted him or he would very seriously contemplate retirement."
Previously, general manager Ted Thompson said if Flanagan didn't return he would consider letting young players Scott Wells, Junius Coston and Chris White battle for the job. Carolina's Jeff Mitchell and Buffalo's Trey Teague are the best veteran centers on the unrestricted market.
"If he got that kind of money, that's a hell of a deal for Mike Flanagan," coach Mike McCarthy said. "I think Mike's biggest issue is his health. He's done it for a long time at a high level. Both coach Joe Philbin and James Campen hold Mike in high regard."
Flanagan tried to send a message to the organization and his teammates last season by returning to the lineup 25 days after undergoing sports hernia surgery. In 10 years, he started 64 of 98 games. Only two players, Brett Favre and William Henderson, had been with Green Bay longer.
"Playing with a sports hernia after two weeks, that speaks for itself," McCarthy said. "Free agency is a competitive market. You like to win them all. It doesn't always happen."
Not only did Flanagan play for Sherman in Green Bay but also at UCLA in 1994. The Packers took him in the third round in 1996 but his first three seasons were ruined by a devastating leg injury.
Signed as an undrafted free agent from Notre Dame in '02, Fisher was the No. 3 running back for most of the last four seasons. He played 30.3% of the downs in 2004 and 38.9% in '05, when his 430 snaps were the most for any of the team's backs.
"Obviously, Green Bay was my first choice but they really didn't do anything," Fisher said. "The coaches all said they wanted me back but, obviously, it's not up to them. It's not even Andrew. Andrew just does the talking when Ted says so.
"I can't speak for everybody. There could be a great deal of uncertainty on what's going on. Nobody knows what the direction is. Either you're rebuilding or you're not rebuilding. It's crazy.
"He (Thompson) might just want his people in there. Considering a lot of us didn't come from his drafts or him bringing us in, maybe he wants to go in another direction."
Fisher, who said he never received an offer from Green Bay, decided to take the Rams' offer and cancel scheduled visits with Pittsburgh and Buffalo. He will back up Steven Jackson.
"Nobody knows what Marshall Faulk might do," Fisher said. "I'll do the third-down stuff. Play a little fullback; I'll do tailback and special teams. I'm going to be versatile throughout the whole system.
"I loved it in Green Bay. I love the fans and I was always out in the community. Unfortunately, things didn't work out the way I would have liked for it up in Green Bay."
Starting five of 60 games, Fisher finished with 235 carries for 880 yards (3.7-yard average) and four touchdowns, and 125 receptions for 900 yards (7.2) and five touchdowns