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[OldSchool101]

And Fitzpatrick.

Yes. He was a pleasant surprise in 2025. My concern is his injury happened in Week 16, end of December. For now, his status is going to speculative and it might be prudent to move on in 2026 vs waiting to see.. if you will.
We’re also likely more sensitive to a tender mindset of choosing reliability over projection after a season of high injury. Even the FA group were signed so far has a track record of higher reliability and minimal injury history. Cutting Elgton and Hobbs and signing Franklin and Hargrave etc..are some examples.

 

[milani]

Yes. He was a pleasant surprise in 2025. My concern is his injury happened in Week 16, end of December. For now, his status is going to speculative and it might be prudent to move on in 2026 vs waiting to see.. if you will.
We’re also likely more sensitive to a tender mindset of choosing reliability over projection after a season of high injury. Even the FA group were signed so far has a track record of higher reliability and minimal injury history. Cutting Elgton and Hobbs and signing Franklin and Hargrave etc..are some examples.

I am not sure Wyle will make the team unless someone else goes down.

 

[OldSchool101]

I am not sure Wyle will make the team unless someone else goes down.

Interesting. Within moments of these posts we just signed Whyle to a $2Mil contract. It’s not good news for Fitzgerald though.

 

[milani]

Interesting. Within moments of these posts we just signed Whyle to a $2Mil contract. It’s not good news for Fitzgerald though.

You are correct. Anticipating a late return for Fitz just forces the Packers to act. He may start the season on IR. And come November he probably gets released.

 

[rmontro]

Somehow I don’t think this Roster is nearly as bad as some are making It. Had GB went from a Top 5 most injury impacted team to middle of the league injuries? We likely finish 10-7 or 11-6 and possibly even a division winner.

Were we a top five most injury impacted team? This site has us ranked at #15 most affected, which does place them right around the middle of the league.

https://www.sportsinfosolutions.com...-most-and-least-affected-by-injuries-in-2025/

 

[DoURant]

Were we a top five most injury impacted team? This site has us ranked at #15 most affected, which does place them right around the middle of the league.

https://www.sportsinfosolutions.com...-most-and-least-affected-by-injuries-in-2025/

I do think that if you look at the impact to when and who the injuries happened to during the season, we would have a case for top 5. ( Last 3rd of the season).

Ex. For the season, Chicago had 99 more games lost to injury than we did, but the impact on their team, according to this chart, was less than us by around 30 pts. There is a reason we lost so many games in December and January. Prior to that, when we were overall healthy, we were the #1 seed in the NFC.

 

[rmontro]

I do think that if you look at the impact to when and who the injuries happened to during the season, we would have a case for top 5. ( Last 3rd of the season).

I'm sure it seems that way to us, but I bet other teams feel like they've been unfairly affected as well. There are a lot of injuries every year in the NFL. Our lack of depth hurt us too.

 

[Poppa San]

Not sure what a fan base is going to do to force Gute out. Tar and feathering hasn't been a thing for centuries. Stop buying tickets? Guess if entire base doesn't renew their season tickets and everyone on the waiting list declines, but that seems unlikely.

Which leaves sternly worded letters, tweets and phone calls, but not sure that is going to go anywhere either.

Does Gute have a dog that likes chickens?

 

[Firethorn1001]

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[OldSchool101]

Were we a top five most injury impacted team? This site has us ranked at #15 most affected, which does place them right around the middle of the league.

https://www.sportsinfosolutions.com...-most-and-least-affected-by-injuries-in-2025/

See I don’t have to look at the list to know that very few teams were impacted like the Packers. In particular because how many of the teams wouldn’t have qualified for postseason.

I’d put QB as the hardest hit a team can take. 2025 the Packers avoided that though. Yet if you scored each player like draft points how many draft picks did we lose for portions of the season.

#Micah, Wyatt, Kraft, Watson, Tom, Reed, Elgton, Fitz, If Offense and Defense are the highest 22 rated players.. We lost a huge portion of impact players. We don’t even know how Lloyd or Oliver might’ve made impacts. It was probably the worst impact since Rodgers was out of lineup.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

However, at the end of the day, I still see the fan base having no impact on that.

Well, if it is true that the Packer Season ticket waiting list is close to 150,000, yup, fans have ZERO impact on what the Packers do.

Keep buying tickets and merch and the Packers will keep doing what they do best, print more money.

 

[RicFlairoftheNFL]

Right there with ya, edge and our OL jelling are the biggest factors - outside of that man this roster is constructed excellently!

It's more than OL 'jel'. We've got 2 guys in the middle of the O-Line that should be pine riding at BEST...and they're in our starting lineup in 2026.

 

[OldSchool101]

It's more than OL 'jel'. We've got 2 guys in the middle of the O-Line that should be pine riding at BEST...and they're in our starting lineup in 2026.

Not sure if I follow. But the middle can only be 2 of our projected starters. Banks-Ryan-Belton

Banks had a down year, but that was primarily until around mid season area and started to click down the stretch. The FO did anticipate him to improve in year 2, but much of that was they said he was struggling with some minor injuries that didn’t help his cause Possibly if he remains healthy he could trend up? Now for record I’m not agreeing as much as relaying what’s been said. Groundcover to bandaid a poor financial FA move? Possibly. We shall see. My best guess is Banks will be better before he’s worse.

Ryan took over full time on 11/16/25 against the Giants. He played 7 contests at Center before sitting week 18 and jumping back in during postseason. Center isn’t a position you are going to excel finishing a season unless you are superhuman imo. Sean struggled in Pass protect but was still able to run the OL on short notice. He’s a good athlete with lots of power. He’ll get a full body of work this Camp and preseason. Plus he’s already done this once, so his confidence level will be higher than a new guy. If he works on Pass protect we could very well have an above average Center imo.

Belton was almost identical as Sean in playing time. Except for a fill in game or 2 he took over for Sean at RG. He actually got better as the season progressed. I think it’s asking alot to throw a Rookie into the mix later in the season and expect high marks. Just get some experience and learn the nuances. It’s not a stretch to expect Belton gets better.

These guys had very little work together as a cohesive group in Camp or Preseason until nearly Thanksgiving. Playing 1st team reps is going to be beneficial for this group. That goes for Morgan also. Nothing helps you learn better than on the job training. Jumping from HS to Collegiate or Collegiate to Pro is going to take a minute. Highly unlikely our OL goes backwards with more time together.

 

[tynimiller]

It's more than OL 'jel'. We've got 2 guys in the middle of the O-Line that should be pine riding at BEST...and they're in our starting lineup in 2026.

Sorry it has been a fact that the #1 thing for an OL to be successful is being healthy and becoming gelling. 100%. I mean shoot Royce Newman's rookie year he started every game and that OL was one of the best in the league many felt, Rodgers had an incredible season....and it wasn't just Newman....Bakh played just 27 snaps...Nijman, Billy Turner, Lucas Patrick and Jon Runyan Jr were our main guys (Jenkins played less than 500 snaps)....But Turner / Newman / Runyan / Patrick all played 800 snaps or more together.

Also we actually don't know that they're in our starting lineup in 2026 - that hasn't taken place yet. Still free agency and the draft exist.

@OldSchool101 provided more context about discussion of the guys I think worth saying.

 

[OldSchool101]

Sorry it has been a fact that the #1 thing for an OL to be successful is being healthy and becoming gelling. 100%. I mean shoot Royce Newman's rookie year he started every game and that OL was one of the best in the league many felt, Rodgers had an incredible season....and it wasn't just Newman....Bakh played just 27 snaps...Nijman, Billy Turner, Lucas Patrick and Jon Runyan Jr were our main guys (Jenkins played less than 500 snaps)....But Turner / Newman / Runyan / Patrick all played 800 snaps or more together.

Also we actually don't know that they're in our starting lineup in 2026 - that hasn't taken place yet. Still free agency and the draft exist.

@OldSchool101 provided more context about discussion of the guys I think worth saying.

Yep. OL is ever evolving and sometimes even week to week. Injuries most often are the culprit for substandard play. I can recall several high powered offenses spiraling down ward. 2020 Dallas when they both starting Tackles. I can recall top teams with high performing QB’s like KC with Mahomes or Atlanta with Matt or Brady Pats with a banged up OL never being able to regain form.

Heck it’s not just OL, we saw what just 1 injury can do when a dynamic level Defender goes out (Micah). Similarly
Cam Chancellor went down while with Seattle and it began a steady decline to their vaunted Defense.

Now certainly GB didn’t lose 4 or 5 starting OL to start the season or anything cataclysmic, but we did lose our starting Center and starting RT for 1/2 a season.

Tom only played 65% or more in 9 of
a potential 18 games. I doubt he was healthy for all 9 also. He also missed the most important game.. Playoffs

Elgton Jenkins went down a similar path. He played 65% or more in 8 contests. 8 of 18.. Missed playoffs.

Aaron Banks played 65% snaps in 12 games + playoffs. Missing 5 games.

Sean did a good job sliding over to Center and holding the fort together. Yet that left a void at RG. Sean was a bright light on Offense and put on display his versatility and reliability.

Anthony Belton played 7 games + playoffs at RG. He was serviceable, but this was not an ideal scenario as he was likely our 6th or 7th best OL and a Green Pea.

Rasheed was the only position on OL that didn’t see a change (excluding resting week 18)

 

[OldSchool101]

Now these injuries aren’t excuses or complaints it is what it is. Yet it wasn’t just our OL. We had similar changes on Defense. It was like a revolving door. After losing Kenny Clark and Brenton Cox Jr for what amounts to a season. We lost Devonte Wyatt and Micah Parsons down the stretch also.

Lukas Van Ness played in 40%+ of D snaps across just 6 games + 1 postseason. That’s across an 18 game season. 4 of those games came in September 2025. Starting November on he effectively contributed in 4 games.

You just can’t expect a decimated OL and DL to perform at high levels. The more I review missed time, I’m surprised we went as far as we did actually. Heck we almost Won our Division with scattered and tattered Trenches.

 

[tynimiller]

I’m excited because 2026 right now our five starters will know what they are focusing on…instead of Morgan literally winning at LT but then being asked to be a guard…Belton focusing a lot on tackle before needing to be our Guard…Rhyan focusing on guard and then having to be center.

Rhyan knows he’s the center…Belton knows he’s the RG and Morgan knows he’s the LT

Outside of the draft maybe adding comp at RG with Belton I just don’t see this changing

 

[RicFlairoftheNFL]

Not sure if I follow. But the middle can only be 2 of our projected starters. Banks-Ryan-Belton

Banks had a down year, but that was primarily until around mid season area and started to click down the stretch. The FO did anticipate him to improve in year 2, but much of that was they said he was struggling with some minor injuries that didn’t help his cause Possibly if he remains healthy he could trend up? Now for record I’m not agreeing as much as relaying what’s been said. Groundcover to bandaid a poor financial FA move? Possibly. We shall see. My best guess is Banks will be better before he’s worse.

Ryan took over full time on 11/16/25 against the Giants. He played 7 contests at Center before sitting week 18 and jumping back in during postseason. Center isn’t a position you are going to excel finishing a season unless you are superhuman imo. Sean struggled in Pass protect but was still able to run the OL on short notice. He’s a good athlete with lots of power. He’ll get a full body of work this Camp and preseason. Plus he’s already done this once, so his confidence level will be higher than a new guy. If he works on Pass protect we could very well have an above average Center imo.

Belton was almost identical as Sean in playing time. Except for a fill in game or 2 he took over for Sean at RG. He actually got better as the season progressed. I think it’s asking alot to throw a Rookie into the mix later in the season and expect high marks. Just get some experience and learn the nuances. It’s not a stretch to expect Belton gets better.

These guys had very little work together as a cohesive group in Camp or Preseason until nearly Thanksgiving. Playing 1st team reps is going to be beneficial for this group. That goes for Morgan also. Nothing helps you learn better than on the job training. Jumping from HS to Collegiate or Collegiate to Pro is going to take a minute. Highly unlikely our OL goes backwards with more time together.

Rhyan is garbage at Guard and Center, that's been proven. Every running play his *** is hitting our running backs in the head. Banks has been the worst FA pick up in recent history. These two should barely be on the team. I actually thought Belton was better than the other two...combined.

 

[RicFlairoftheNFL]

Sorry it has been a fact that the #1 thing for an OL to be successful is being healthy and becoming gelling. 100%. I mean shoot Royce Newman's rookie year he started every game and that OL was one of the best in the league many felt, Rodgers had an incredible season....and it wasn't just Newman....Bakh played just 27 snaps...Nijman, Billy Turner, Lucas Patrick and Jon Runyan Jr were our main guys (Jenkins played less than 500 snaps)....But Turner / Newman / Runyan / Patrick all played 800 snaps or more together.

Also we actually don't know that they're in our starting lineup in 2026 - that hasn't taken place yet. Still free agency and the draft exist.

@OldSchool101 provided more context about discussion of the guys I think worth saying.

Reminding me we let Runyan walk is just gonna raise my blood pressure Tyni

 

[gopkrs]

It's more than OL 'jel'. We've got 2 guys in the middle of the O-Line that should be pine riding at BEST...and they're in our starting lineup in 2026.

Rhyan is garbage at Guard and Center, that's been proven. Every running play his *** is hitting our running backs in the head. Banks has been the worst FA pick up in recent history. These two should barely be on the team. I actually thought Belton was better than the other two...combined.

Green Bay fans are forever thinking that our O line is great. And also that all our 5th round draft picks from previous years are just starting to take advantage of our superior coaching. I guess thinking if we say it enough; it will be true. And also then we don't have to spend good draft picks because we are fine there.

 

[milani]

Now these injuries aren’t excuses or complaints it is what it is. Yet it wasn’t just our OL. We had similar changes on Defense. It was like a revolving door. After losing Kenny Clark and Brenton Cox Jr for what amounts to a season. We lost Devonte Wyatt and Micah Parsons down the stretch also.

Lukas Van Ness played in 40%+ of D snaps across just 6 games + 1 postseason. That’s across an 18 game season. 4 of those games came in September 2025. Starting November on he effectively contributed in 4 games.

You just can’t expect a decimated OL and DL to perform at high levels. The more I review missed time, I’m surprised we went as far as we did actually. Heck we almost Won our Division with scattered and tattered Trenches.

Although MM had his woes we still find it remarkable that the Packers won a SB with the most players on IR in their history in 2010, including losing your no.1 TE and no. 1 RB.
But I then looked at the 2013 season. We had 15 players hit IR THAT season also. We lost Finley for good. The team was 5-2 when Rodgers went down. We lose our backup QB. Lacy had to finish the year on a bad ankle. And Clay Matthews missed the last few games. So this was a decimated team that limped into the playoffs and almost beat the 9ers. Had we had even 5 of those on IR I believe we advance another round at least and maybe more.

 

[OldSchool101]

Rhyan is garbage at Guard and Center, that's been proven. Every running play his *** is hitting our running backs in the head. Banks has been the worst FA pick up in recent history. These two should barely be on the team. I actually thought Belton was better than the other two...combined.

Well the people who do this for a living disagree. Not just in Green Bay either.
Actually the evaluation on Sean after last season was he was an abysmal Pass blocker.

Rhyan played the 32nd most Snaps out of 40 qualifying Centers. Which essentially means he barely played Center compared to his Counterparts. Yet he allowed 27 pressures and 8 QB hits. His 1 Sack allowed was ok. Although for record I’m not sure what the breakdown was at Guard Vs Center on his dismal Pass Blocking, but it graded low enough I’d guess both were well below average.

In Sean’s’ first several games he was seen on tape keeping his head down. He’d snap the ball and by time his head was raised he was beaten. He also had 5 flags and was obviously adjusting to a completely different role.

You mentioned his Run block. Interesting you picked that because according to the bulk of evaluators it was the one part of his game he did best. It was actually Walker and Banks that were the weak link in Run block

 

[CarryTheG14]

https://x.com/TyDunne/status/2038622337675731276?s=20


I thought Bull was DONE after his rookie year. Im so glad he broke out. We need the attitude and swagger he brings.

 

[tynimiller]

https://x.com/TyDunne/status/2038622337675731276?s=20


I thought Bull was DONE after his rookie year. Im so glad he broke out. We need the attitude and swagger he brings.

I partially think there is a real chance the safety future is actually him and Evan not X and Evan...but time will tell. Bull has become a pivotal part of our defense.

 

[CarryTheG14]

I partially think there is a real chance the safety future is actually him and Evan not X and Evan...but time will tell. Bull has become a pivotal part of our defense.

That's interesting. He was a DAMN good nickel last year. I don't think you take him away from there.