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<blockquote data-quote="HardRightEdge" data-source="post: 612600"><p>There's an excellent illustration of Seattle's run/pass option out of a read-option-run look, that might ring a bell. We could call it a run/pass triple option. In this instance, the play is resolved with a "pop pass" in the current lingo.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://insidethefilmroom.com/seattle-seahawks-shredded-packer-college-style-spread-offense/3/" target="_blank">http://insidethefilmroom.com/seattle-seahawks-shredded-packer-college-style-spread-offense/3/</a></p><p></p><p>Wilson is taking the snap from a pistol position 5 yards deep, he pulls the ball back from the RB (Lynch) on the read and moves left giving the QB-option-run look, but he has a run/pass option in this case depending on the cornerback's (Shields) action. With Shields biting on run from the snap, he throws to the receiver Shields has abandoned. If Shields had stuck with Lockett, Wilson would have the run option.</p><p></p><p>In this case, Matthews bit on Lynch with his first couple of steps, but adjusted quickly and had the angle on Wilson. Had Shields stuck with Lockett, Wilson might have had to throw the ball away.</p><p></p><p>(As an unrelated aside, note the Packers are in a hybrid 4-3 look. It appears the hybrid RDE/LB in a squat has press coverage responsibility on the TE if Seattle goes to pass without a run fake and the TE releases.)</p><p></p><p>On the off side, note the WR Kearse blocking down (lamely) on the CB. That's because the play is strictly a left side option...it gives Kearse something to do and increases the odds of a longer gain if he takes the CB out of the play and the receiver or QB cuts backs...standard issue when the play call is fixed to one side.</p><p></p><p>Seattle could add another wrinkle. Wilson sees single high safety from the start, then he's looking right at Shields as he bites on run right at the snap. There's no reason why Kearse on the offside couldn't run a route putting both WRs into man coverage. Then instead of moving left to show the QB run option, Wilson could just take a step or two back in what amounts to play-action out of pistol, and choose between his receivers.</p><p></p><p>That's a lot for the QB to digest in short order in a "quad option" (hand to the RB / roll and run / roll and pass / drop and pass), but you could certainly see how they could incorporate a dual option (hand to the RB / drop and pass).</p><p></p><p>In this case they're looking for an intermediate gain, with the possibility of more if the WR can beat the safety in space, which is what happened.</p><p></p><p>Note the comments at the end of this link relating to the rule differences between the NCAA and the NFL, and the fact Unger committed an uncalled penalty. The frequency with which this O-Line action goes uncalled in the NFL on play action and center screens is almost laughable.</p><p></p><p>On another forum, we had a good chuckle a few years back over a Packer center screen from something like the 10 yard line where the defense blew the play up, Rodgers pulled the ball back, ditched the pocket right, and threw a TD. Wells was wandering around in the end zone at the point where the ball was thrown. I guess all ref eyes were on Rodgers. <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HardRightEdge, post: 612600"] There's an excellent illustration of Seattle's run/pass option out of a read-option-run look, that might ring a bell. We could call it a run/pass triple option. In this instance, the play is resolved with a "pop pass" in the current lingo. [URL]http://insidethefilmroom.com/seattle-seahawks-shredded-packer-college-style-spread-offense/3/[/URL] Wilson is taking the snap from a pistol position 5 yards deep, he pulls the ball back from the RB (Lynch) on the read and moves left giving the QB-option-run look, but he has a run/pass option in this case depending on the cornerback's (Shields) action. With Shields biting on run from the snap, he throws to the receiver Shields has abandoned. If Shields had stuck with Lockett, Wilson would have the run option. In this case, Matthews bit on Lynch with his first couple of steps, but adjusted quickly and had the angle on Wilson. Had Shields stuck with Lockett, Wilson might have had to throw the ball away. (As an unrelated aside, note the Packers are in a hybrid 4-3 look. It appears the hybrid RDE/LB in a squat has press coverage responsibility on the TE if Seattle goes to pass without a run fake and the TE releases.) On the off side, note the WR Kearse blocking down (lamely) on the CB. That's because the play is strictly a left side option...it gives Kearse something to do and increases the odds of a longer gain if he takes the CB out of the play and the receiver or QB cuts backs...standard issue when the play call is fixed to one side. Seattle could add another wrinkle. Wilson sees single high safety from the start, then he's looking right at Shields as he bites on run right at the snap. There's no reason why Kearse on the offside couldn't run a route putting both WRs into man coverage. Then instead of moving left to show the QB run option, Wilson could just take a step or two back in what amounts to play-action out of pistol, and choose between his receivers. That's a lot for the QB to digest in short order in a "quad option" (hand to the RB / roll and run / roll and pass / drop and pass), but you could certainly see how they could incorporate a dual option (hand to the RB / drop and pass). In this case they're looking for an intermediate gain, with the possibility of more if the WR can beat the safety in space, which is what happened. Note the comments at the end of this link relating to the rule differences between the NCAA and the NFL, and the fact Unger committed an uncalled penalty. The frequency with which this O-Line action goes uncalled in the NFL on play action and center screens is almost laughable. On another forum, we had a good chuckle a few years back over a Packer center screen from something like the 10 yard line where the defense blew the play up, Rodgers pulled the ball back, ditched the pocket right, and threw a TD. Wells was wandering around in the end zone at the point where the ball was thrown. I guess all ref eyes were on Rodgers. ;) [/QUOTE]
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