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Gute Loot
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Good player; I will always have trouble celebrating guys who have the kind of history Reed does.
Yeah, dragged a girl down some stairs and broke down a door or something like that.Oh I kind of remember that. Was it domestic violence?
Yeah, dragged a girl down some stairs and broke down a door or something like that.
Wish you hadn’t told me that… but I agree.Yeah, dragged a girl down some stairs and broke down a door or something like that.
Terrific. Very interesting twist.The off field stuff aside for a moment.
Clark
Lowry
Reed
Slaton
Rookie
Heflin (maybe)
That will be a good group.
With Smith and Gary and probably a high end rookie edge behind it, along with Campbell and Barnes… in front of a fantastic secondary.
This team really ought to field one of the best defenses in the entire league.
Terrific. Very interesting twist.
1. First of all Reed was selected the next guy after we packaged to grab Jason Spriggs in the middle of the 2nd round, 2016 draft.
2. In 2016 Walter and several other Mocks had Reed projected at #23 overall (or a later Day 1 selection), but Jarron slid to #49 overall.
In 2016, Walter had Kenny Clark projected at #44 overall; just after the projection of OT, Jason Spriggs #43 overall. Spriggs was eventually selected by GB at #48 overall.
3. It was Clark that the Packers drafted first at #27 overall, even though many draft scouts had Clark rated slightly lower (mid 2nd) than Reed (later 1st) These 2 DT actual final draft placing was almost the exact inverse of their ranking and projections.
We obviously chose a DT who was the closest resemblance to Jarron Reed with our #27 overall (Clark) I’m willing to bet that Gutey n Co had done thorough homework on Jarron Reed.
In a unique occurrence, We not only got both for 2022, but we have both fully trained up. Excluding his 2016 Rookie season, Reed has only missed 7 of 81 possible regular season contests over 5 seasons; Reed played 33 of the last 33 regular season games, so he’s very reliable.
Luke warm on this guy. I don’t see him as anything more than a rotational player at the position. Honesty I think Lowry is better and I’m not high on Lowry at all.
With Slaton and Heflin in the mix as well not sure how I feel. I don’t see how this provides much value outside of depth I already felt was sufficient.
The upshot of this move is that the Packers are keeping themselves out of a position where they have to leave the first round with a player at a particular spot.
Luke warm on this guy. I don’t see him as anything more than a rotational player at the position. Honesty I think Lowry is better and I’m not high on Lowry at all.
With Slaton and Heflin in the mix as well not sure how I feel. I don’t see how this provides much value outside of depth I already felt was sufficient.
It is natural to be lukewarm because we never know how free agents will turn out. In years past we never got but a few. But in the last few years we are seeing more of it. Were we not all a little lukewarm when Campbell, Douglas, and Mercilus joined our ranks. It is not like we just stole them. I do not expect every pick up to be a big hit. But so far Gute has done very well in the short term. Heck, even when he signed David Moore for one game as a kick returner against Minnesota he looked better than anyone we had back there all season.Luke warm on this guy. I don’t see him as anything more than a rotational player at the position. Honesty I think Lowry is better and I’m not high on Lowry at all.
With Slaton and Heflin in the mix as well not sure how I feel. I don’t see how this provides much value outside of depth I already felt was sufficient.
In my opinion the Packers absolutely need to select a wide receiver in the first round. That might change until the draft though.
We can see in his film breakdown of how aware Reed is. He was playing off the left edge and when the QB took his first step to bounce outside Reed literally started his spin move within .25 sec and met the QB 5 yards in the backfield. Who threw it like a wild duck into the stands as he was falling backwards. His mental reaction time is very good and that was noticeable on several running plays.In 89 career games, Reed has 24.5 sacks, 123 solo tackles and 114 assists. He averages .28 sacks per game and 2.66 tackles. Lowry in 96 games has 15 sacks, 116 solo tackles and 93 assists. He averages .16 sacks per game and 2.17 tackles. Reed gets to the passer at nearly double the rate of Lowry and he also gets more tackles per game indicating he has better lateral mobility down the line of scrimage than Lowry. Reed is for sure a big upgrade over Lowry as a pass rusher and is probably an upgrade against the run as well.
And here I look at that group as being very, very pedestrian outside of Clark.The off field stuff aside for a moment.
Clark
Lowry
Reed
Slaton
Rookie
Heflin (maybe)
That will be a good group.
With Smith and Gary and probably a high end rookie edge behind it, along with Campbell and Barnes… in front of a fantastic secondary.
This team really ought to field one of the best defenses in the entire league.
And here I look at that group as being very, very pedestrian outside of Clark.
I'm hoping for Devonte Wyatt at 22.
One guy does not make a line... which is why I'm eyeing Wyatt at pick 22.Yes, if you were to take away the best player on the unit and only consider them without him, it would not be as good.