Packers could (repeat could) run 3-4 defense

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Interesting concept that a few posters here had mentioned Pop' as a rush specialist.. yep it is slow in Packer news for sure..

linky....

The March 31st issue of the Sporting News talks about the possibility of the Green Bay Packers running a 3-4 defense.

Please understand, nowhere does it say that the Packers would make the 3-4 their base defense.


In fact, the article starts out generally praising the Packers for the free agent signing of linebacker Brandon Chillar. The Sporting News predicts that Chillar will beat out Poppinga for the starting strong side job.

The article contines, "But that doesn't mean that Poppinga won't get on the field. On passing downs, the coaches might go to a 3-3 alignment with Poppinga as a roaming rusher or to a 3-4 with either Poppinga or A.J. Hawk blitzing."

The author questions the ability of both Poppinga and Chillar to cover tight ends. That's something that Packer fans have been worried about for some time too.

Is it just me, or didn't the Packers have the safeties lining up on the tight ends more often and doing a good job of it from about December onward?
 

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But we'll need a lot more depth at LB than we have now.

We have great QUALITY depth at LBer.

Barnett
Hawk
Chillar
Poppinga
Hodge
Bishop
White


The problem is that more 3-4's have over sized LB-DE's. KGB and Jason
Hunter are both athletic enough to play LBer in the 3-4.


Pickett is big enough to be a nose tackle and is already double teamed.

Kampman and Jenkins are big enough to play DE in the 3-4 (both played some DT to start their careers.)

Our Base 3-4

Poppinga
Kampman
Barnett
Pickett
Hodge
Jenkins
Hawk


Our Base 4-3

Jenkins
Chillar
Harrell
Barnett
Pickett
Hawk
Kampman

While we should use the 4-3 most, implementing some 3-4 fronts into our defensive scheme would only give the opposing offense more things to prepare for. We could also use some different guys to keep our D fresh.
 

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Kampman wouldnt make a 3-4 DE i dont think. also hawk and chillar arent pass rushers.
 
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Kampman wouldnt make a 3-4 DE i dont think. also hawk and chillar arent pass rushers.

I agree.

I think the idea of having a 3-4 went down the tube with the trade of Williams.

That said, I still think we'll see a few creative additions to this scheme, either by Moss/ or Sanders. I really liked the use of Kampman to press the TE at the LOS last year, it was creative and seemed somewhat effective.

More stuff like that would be welcome.
 

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Kampman wouldnt make a 3-4 DE i dont think. also hawk and chillar arent pass rushers.

While Kampman isn't as "thick" as he was as a rookie, he's strong enough to play end.

Chillar would be on the sidelines in our 3-4 with Poppinga in.

Hawk is a better pass rusher than people think. GB just doesn't blitz him often because he's the best cover LBer in the league (one scout's opinion).
 

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I remember last year somebody (probably Kiper) saying Harrell could probably play the 5-technique at the next level. So if we used 3-4 fronts, then Kampman would probably get a down or two off and we'd go with Harrell-Pickett-Jenkins along the D-line.
 

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Interesting concept that a few posters here had mentioned Pop' as a rush specialist.. yep it is slow in Packer news for sure..

linky....

The March 31st issue of the Sporting News talks about the possibility of the Green Bay Packers running a 3-4 defense.

Please understand, nowhere does it say that the Packers would make the 3-4 their base defense.


In fact, the article starts out generally praising the Packers for the free agent signing of linebacker Brandon Chillar. The Sporting News predicts that Chillar will beat out Poppinga for the starting strong side job.

The article contines, "But that doesn't mean that Poppinga won't get on the field. On passing downs, the coaches might go to a 3-3 alignment with Poppinga as a roaming rusher or to a 3-4 with either Poppinga or A.J. Hawk blitzing."

The author questions the ability of both Poppinga and Chillar to cover tight ends. That's something that Packer fans have been worried about for some time too.

Is it just me, or didn't the Packers have the safeties lining up on the tight ends more often and doing a good job of it from about December onward?

Someone else is going to get the tag..

All you do is post articles, copy and paste strikes again!!
 

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Part of what makes the Patriots a great team is that their defense always changes.

If Green Bay has that kind of flexibility, go for it.
 

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Even if they don't run the 3-4 using Poppinga as a pass rusher sounds like a decent idea.

Agreed. Take some snaps from Kampman. Kampy's one of my fave players, but he did look worn down by the end of the season. Maybe with a few less snaps, he'll get more effective.
 

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djcubez said:
Even if they don't run the 3-4 using Poppinga as a pass rusher sounds like a decent idea.

Agreed. Take some snaps from Kampman. Kampy's one of my fave players, but he did look worn down by the end of the season. Maybe with a few less snaps, he'll get more effective.

thing is tho you'd need a stout run stopping DE for that but also with some pass rushing skills - Phillip Merling of Clemson perhaps
 

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Zombieslayer said:
djcubez said:
Even if they don't run the 3-4 using Poppinga as a pass rusher sounds like a decent idea.

Agreed. Take some snaps from Kampman. Kampy's one of my fave players, but he did look worn down by the end of the season. Maybe with a few less snaps, he'll get more effective.

thing is tho you'd need a stout run stopping DE for that but also with some pass rushing skills - Phillip Merling of Clemson perhaps

or.... Corey Williams.
 

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I'd like to see Sanders mix the defense up a little more, and the Chillar signing may allow him to do that. They won't actually go to a 3-4, but I like some of the possible variations that I'm reading about.
 

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Zombieslayer said:
djcubez said:
Even if they don't run the 3-4 using Poppinga as a pass rusher sounds like a decent idea.

Agreed. Take some snaps from Kampman. Kampy's one of my fave players, but he did look worn down by the end of the season. Maybe with a few less snaps, he'll get more effective.

thing is tho you'd need a stout run stopping DE for that but also with some pass rushing skills - Phillip Merling of Clemson perhaps

I'm thinking of on obvious passing downs in certain situations. Imagine KGB on one side and Poppinga on the other. Yes, I know Kampy gets a lot of sacks. But as good as he is at sacking the QB, we can't play the guy 94% of snaps all year long again.
 

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Tiger said:
Zombieslayer said:
djcubez said:
Even if they don't run the 3-4 using Poppinga as a pass rusher sounds like a decent idea.

Agreed. Take some snaps from Kampman. Kampy's one of my fave players, but he did look worn down by the end of the season. Maybe with a few less snaps, he'll get more effective.

thing is tho you'd need a stout run stopping DE for that but also with some pass rushing skills - Phillip Merling of Clemson perhaps

I'm thinking of on obvious passing downs in certain situations. Imagine KGB on one side and Poppinga on the other. Yes, I know Kampy gets a lot of sacks. But as good as he is at sacking the QB, we can't play the guy 94% of snaps all year long again.

I was thinking more along the lines of the 3-3-5 formation that was proposed with a blitzing lb. While it's upsetting Williams is gone because he would've been a perfect NT I think someone else could fill up in there well with the DL depth we got.
 

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