Packers 1st pre-season game

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Packers are (2 1/2 pt) favorites at Lambeau vs San Diego in 1st pre-season game.
 

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Idk man, but I will tell you this it is great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I cant wait until FOOTBALL SEASON STARTS!! This is awsome! GO PACK GO!!! I cant wait.
 

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Yes that does seem wierd. But just by looking at that you can see what is the TOP SPORT in the United States, by far football!!! :mrgreen:
 

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CalifPacker said:
I am more interested in how the O and D linemen perform. I will also be watching our DB's and the rookie WR's.
Here, here.... that's where the game is won!
Just be ready for the weaknesses to stand out during the first part of the Season.
It should only get better...
 

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PackerChick said:
We will see what we are made of now.
Maybe, it is hard to tell by preseason somtimes, wasn't it the year when the Packers won the superbowl that they lost all of their preseason games, and I might add they looked bad doing it. Correct me if I am wrong, I just seem to remember it as the year that the Packers won it all.
 

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agopackgo4 said:
PackerChick said:
We will see what we are made of now.
Maybe, it is hard to tell by preseason somtimes, wasn't it the year when the Packers won the superbowl that they lost all of their preseason games, and I might add they looked bad doing it. Correct me if I am wrong, I just seem to remember it as the year that the Packers won it all.

Wrong. They won all but one game.
 

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agopackgo4 said:
Maybe, it is hard to tell by preseason somtimes, wasn't it the year when the Packers won the superbowl that they lost all of their preseason games, and I might add they looked bad doing it. Correct me if I am wrong, I just seem to remember it as the year that the Packers won it all.


You are wrong again as usual...

The Packers went 3-1 in pre-season in 1996, the season they won the Super Bowl.

The Packers will need to win 2 pre-season games to remain in contention for the Super Bowl.
 

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Steel Wheels said:
agopackgo4 said:
Maybe, it is hard to tell by preseason somtimes, wasn't it the year when the Packers won the superbowl that they lost all of their preseason games, and I might add they looked bad doing it. Correct me if I am wrong, I just seem to remember it as the year that the Packers won it all.


You are wrong again as usual...

The Packers went 3-1 in pre-season in 1996, the season they won the Super Bowl.

The Packers will need to win 2 pre-season games to remain in contention for the Super Bowl.

So in order to be a super bowl contender you must win 2 pre season games? Thats really odd, why would teams that only get one or goose egg even play the season?

I did a little research and found this

(March 20, 2002) -- With the NFL realigning into eight four-team divisions to accommodate the arrival of the Houston Texans, the league adopted new tiebreaking rules.

Common opponents will now be the third tiebreaker within a division after head-to-head games and division record because each of the four teams will have 14 common games in the 16-game schedule. The owners also moved the strength-of-victory tiebreaker ahead of the strength-of-schedule tiebreaker.

The six postseason participants from each conference will now be seeded as follows:
1. The division champion with the best record.
2. The division champion with the second-best record.
3. The division champion with the third-best record.
4. The division champion with the fourth-best record.
5. The Wild Card club with the best record.
6. The Wild Card club with the second-best record.

The following procedures will be used to break standings ties for postseason playoffs and to determine regular-season schedules.

NOTE: Tie games count as one-half win and one-half loss for both clubs.

TO BREAK A TIE WITHIN A DIVISION
If, at the end of the regular season, two or more clubs in the same division finish with identical won-lost-tied percentages, the following steps will be taken until a champion is determined.

Two Clubs
1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.

Three or More Clubs
(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated during any step, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of the two-club format).
1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.

TO BREAK A TIE FOR THE WILD-CARD TEAM
If it is necessary to break ties to determine the two Wild-Card clubs from each conference, the following steps will be taken.
1. If the tied clubs are from the same division, apply division tie breaker.
2. If the tied clubs are from different divisions, apply the following steps.

Two Clubs
1. Head-to-head, if applicable.
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
4. Strength of victory.
5. Strength of schedule.
6. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
7. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best net points in conference games.
9. Best net points in all games.
10. Best net touchdowns in all games.
11. Coin toss.

Three or More Clubs
(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.)
1. Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants.
2. Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in conference games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss

When the first Wild-Card team has been identified, the procedure is repeated to name the second Wild-Card, i.e., eliminate all but the highest-ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. In situations where three or more teams from the same division are involved in the procedure, the original seeding of the teams remains the same for subsequent applications of the tie breaker if the top-ranked team in that division qualifies for a Wild-Card berth.

OTHER TIE-BREAKING PROCEDURES
1. Only one club advances to the playoffs in any tie-breaking step. Remaining tied clubs revert to the first step of the applicable division or Wild-Card tie breakers. As an example, if two clubs remain tied in any tie-breaker step after all other clubs have been eliminated, the procedure reverts to step one of the two-club format to determine the winner. When one club wins the tie breaker, all other clubs revert to step 1 of the applicable two-club or three-club format.
2. In comparing division and conference records or records against common opponents among tied teams, the best won-lost-tied percentage is the deciding factor since teams may have played an unequal number of games.
3. To determine home-field priority among division titlists, apply Wild-Card tie breakers.
4. To determine home-field priority for Wild-Card qualifiers, apply division tie breakers (if teams are from the same division) or Wild-Card tie breakers (if teams are from different ivisions).

TIE-BREAKING PROCEDURE FOR SELECTION MEETING
If two or more clubs are tied in the selection order, the strength-of-schedule tie breaker is applied, subject to the following exceptions for playoff clubs:

1. The Super Bowl winner is last and the Super Bowl loser next-to-last.
2. Any non-Super Bowl playoff club involved in a tie shall be assigned priority within its segment below that of non-playoff clubs and in the order that the playoff clubs exited from the playoffs. Thus, within a tied segment a playoff club that loses in the Wild-Card game will have priority over a playoff club that loses in the Divisional playoff game, which in turn will have priority over a club that loses in the Conference Championship game. If two tied clubs exited the playoffs in the same round, the tie is broken by strength of schedule.

If any ties cannot be broken by strength of schedule, the divisional or conference tie breakers, whichever are applicable, are applied. Any ties that still exist are broken by a coin flip.

I did only skim over it, however I didnt see any mention about pre season record.

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You're right - there isn't any specifics demanding that....
But, in '96, I do believe we won only one Pre-season game and the skeptics were crowing (like they are now) about how the Packers just might have a hard time making it back to the Playoffs - '95 we won the NFC Central Championship game, but got no further...

[The HATS that you could get (btw) for that year were pretty kool - they had a chunk of cheese on the front - and now they're collector's items... hard to find]

...The pundits on the other hand like to say there's some corrolation about losing in Pre-season and finishing tough in the Playoffs - winning the Superbowl.. but it's just not well founded in its argument. What really should be looked at, is how well they've done by December and are they now injured or are they starting to peak and get on a roll as we head towards Christmas (???) That's what to look for... Some Teams know how to pace themselves... others do not!

Good call, SV!
 

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Steel Wheels said:
agopackgo4 said:
Maybe, it is hard to tell by preseason somtimes, wasn't it the year when the Packers won the superbowl that they lost all of their preseason games, and I might add they looked bad doing it. Correct me if I am wrong, I just seem to remember it as the year that the Packers won it all.


You are wrong again as usual...

The Packers went 3-1 in pre-season in 1996, the season they won the Super Bowl.

The Packers will need to win 2 pre-season games to remain in contention for the Super Bowl.
What your crazy, why preseason games dont mean anything at all. I dearly hope that you are not serious about that.
 

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agopackgo4 said:
Steel Wheels said:
The Packers went 3-1 in pre-season in 1996, the season they won the Super Bowl.

The Packers will need to win 2 pre-season games to remain in contention for the Super Bowl.
What your crazy, why preseason games dont mean anything at all. I dearly hope that you are not serious about that.

Try reading it slow this time, maybe you'll understand it better...


NFL preseason games are a good gauge for regular season success

By Greg Dempson

The very first nationally published article I wrote (in Winner's Edge magazine) contained a football quote by Bill Parcells, the master at winning and covering preseason contests. Parcells stated, "People who think preseason football is meaningless don't know anything about football."

Preseason success is a remarkably accurate barometer in determining a teams' success during the regular season. Did you know that 30 out of the previous 39 Super Bowl champions (76.9%) won .500 or more of their preseason contests straight up? You do now! Since Super Bowl I, the 39 winning teams had a combined preseason margin of 116 - 68 - 2 or 62.3% straight up. Marv Levy was one coach who didn't take the preseason seriously; he had a losing record in three of the four preseason years that Buffalo advanced to the Super Bowl. Perhaps that is one of the reasons why the Bills went 0 - 4 straight up!

Free agency and parity as well as salary caps have changed the way the game is played since 1993. When reviewing the past decade, I noted the following preseason records with regards to the past 11 Super Bowl champions.

1994 - the 49ers went 3 - 1.
1995 - the Cowboys went 2 - 3.
1996 - the Packers 3 - 1.
1997 - the Broncos went 3 - 2.
1998 - the Broncos went 3 - 1.
1999 - the Rams went 2 - 2.
2000 - the Ravens went 4 - 0.
2001 - the Patriots went 3 - 1.
2002 - the Buccaneers went 3 - 1.
2003 - the Patriots went 4 - 0.
2004 - the Patriots went 1-3

The past 11 Super Bowl winners produced a 31 - 15 or 67.3% preseason record and only the Cowboys (1995) and Patriots (2004) had a losing records in the preseason. Both the Cowboys and Patriots were defending Super Bowl Champions so they were able to overcome their poor pre-season records.
 

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Please show the link for your source.. if you would... thanks!
(Dang, coulda sworn the Pack only won one preseason game in '96)
 

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Um............yeah??????? Why do they need to win two preseason games to remain in contention for the superbowl?????!? :?: :?: :?:
 

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This team could be very misleading by their preseason record. I would think they are not going to risk Brett, Ahman, Javon, or Flanny very much. And possibly some others on O. On defense they will be looking at a lot of youngsters and rookies quite a bit. So I don't believe we will get a very good read on the team util the last preseason game, if then.
 

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IPBprez said:
Please show the link for your source.. if you would... thanks!
(Dang, coulda sworn the Pack only won one preseason game in '96)


Well your dang wrong...
 

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Steel Wheels said:
IPBprez said:
Please show the link for your source.. if you would... thanks!
(Dang, coulda sworn the Pack only won one preseason game in '96)


Well your dang wrong...

you're

Show me in the NFL Playoff Rules where it states 'for a team to be eligble for conention for that years super bowl said team must have won atleast two pre season games' until you come up with something of that nature, move on to something that can hold water because with this argument you WILL look like a fool the more you preach the pre season 'matters'
 

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SlickVision said:
you're

Show me in the NFL Playoff Rules where it states 'for a team to be eligble for conention for that years super bowl said team must have won atleast two pre season games' until you come up with something of that nature, move on to something that can hold water because with this argument you WILL look like a fool the more you preach the pre season 'matters'

I guess you can't read too well. Reread the article real slow....and maybe you will understand the facts....that's if you can read.
 

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Steel Wheels said:
I guess you can't read too well. Reread the article real slow....and maybe you will understand the facts....that's if you can read.

Which article? I will locate my Hooked on Phonics tapes and do my best!!
 
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