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Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by Obi1, Apr 28, 2006.

  1. Obi1

    Obi1 Cheesehead

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    Why does Houston spurn Bush?

    One has to assume that Houston has had talks with Bush as well as Williams...

    Why Williams? Is there something about Reggie Bush that the league and Bush's agents are not letting on?
     
  2. Popcynical

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    I think Williams is a better player than Bush. That's all it comes down to. I'd rather have Williams on my team; so would the Texans.
     
  3. spardo62

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    I would guess that $$$$ as well as some of the off-field issues that have sprung up this past week made Mario very appealing to a conservative owner who could not really go wrong selecting 1a or 1b.
     
  4. CaliforniaCheez

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    Bush falls to #6 the 49'ers. They can use him.
     
  5. Popcynical

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    Somebody will surely trade up by then.
     
  6. Packnic

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    ARE YOU GUYS FREAKIN KIDDIN ME... have you seen this kid play

    mario williams wasnt even the best defensive end at nc state for a couple years... he is a bust if ive ever seen one.

    Reggie bush was nothing short of the best player on A GREAT TEAm... Also we need a great reciever and the boys at ESPN say that if Reggie bush had an 85 on his back instead of just a 5 he would still be a top 10 pick... a kick returner, a running back, and a freakin reciever this is an absolute no freakin brainer.
     
  7. Packnic

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    and reggie will not fall out of the top 3


    he will either be a saint or a titan..... or if a trade happens a jet or as i pray to god a green bay packer
     
  8. mattresell

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    He's not falling past #2. Either the Saints take him or somebody moves up.
     
  9. Popcynical

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    Yeah, as a freshman he wasn't the best defensive end.. wow.

    He's regarded by many to be the most talented player in the draft and now he's going number one.
     
  10. Packnic

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    believe me i live in nc and have several friends at NC State.... they got tired of him because he looked lazy half the time... and if a guy cant even produce against Duke football... how the balls is he gonna produce against talent. he didnt produce in college, wont produce in the nfl
     
  11. Toronto_Cheesehead

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    I've seen him play. A guy who rarely runs inside, played behind a dominant offensive line in a conference that can't play defense, and only twice in his career carried the ball more than 20 times. I have nothing against the kid, and I'm not rooting against him, but a running back who will be getting a 25+ million dollar signing bonus better be able to run consistently between the tackles and carry the ball 25 times a game. Also, what's all this bs about him being a kick returner? What team in their right mind would put such a large financial investment on the car crash that is special teams for a prolonged period of time? Bottom line is, players with Mario's size and athletic ability don't grow on trees and when you have the chance to add one to your roster you do.
     
  12. Obi1

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    Players with Bush's talent don't grow on trees either...
     
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    I think Texans were looking for what was best for the team. I think Bush could be a special player, not a full time RB, but as a WR/KR/PR antwan randle el'esque.

    Texans have a good RB, stud WR, Average QB who would probably be better if he had an OL to block for him.

    I agree with this move on the Texans part.
     
  14. Packnic

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    i cant believe im the only one who wants bush... maybe i am taking crazy pills
     
  15. Obi1

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    I'm with YOU.

    I see Bush as a Travis Williams with Barry Sanders like moves...
     
  16. Zero2Cool

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    I would take Bush. I wouldn't give up the kitchen sink for the guy. I just don't see him as full time RB in the NFL. I think he is a special player no doubt, but in the right system. He's not Barry Sanders special.
     
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    Running back isn't a premium position like DE is though.

    Whereas Portis, R. Johnson, Barber, Green, Jordan, Davis, Parker, Dillon, Martin, and Holmes are all backs taken after the first round and have during their careers ranged from solid starters to Pro Bowl talents. There are examples of DEs taken later in the draft that have paved out very good careers, but generally the big, freakish athletes that can play run and pass effective are taken in the first round.
     
  18. Obi1

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    Before we go much further... Have you SEEN Bush play? Other than the bowl game which he was NOT featured because the coach wanted to show the whole world that his team was more than just Bush...?
     
  19. Toronto_Cheesehead

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    YES!!! I have seen him play. Being where I am, I watch Big 10 and Notre Dame football more, but I've seen Bush play several times. Just because my opinion differs from yours and I don't buy into the hype doesn't mean I haven't seen him play.
     
  20. Packnic

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    the guy lit up Texas in the rose bowl for over 130 some yards... and it was a quiet day, because USC's defensive coordinator is an idiot Vince Hype Young blew up and made reggies day, under the radar.

    he is a solid performer...and plays huge in the clutch, you need a guy like him on your team. This could definetly go down as one of the worst draft decisions ever by the texans
     
  21. mattresell

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    Are we really going to bring up the "clutch" situation again? Numerous studies have shown no such thing exists. I know it's magical to think that some players have a different gear they turn on in "clutch" situations, but it simply has not proven to be true.

    PS

    Anyone looking to start a private mesaage fight with Matt Resell may do so by typing the word "clutch" into any future post.
     
  22. Packnic

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    c l u t c h
     
  23. mattresell

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    Oh it's on Packnic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
     
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    Sorry but I think that with Williams going ahead of Bush, it clearly states that Houston was not quite as enamored with him as some of you guys.

    Williams has a history of taking plays off BUT Houston is still taking him ahead of Bush?

    I like the move by Houston but it speaks volumes about what they think of Bush
     
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    It was all about the contract, pyledriver
     

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