NFC North Predictions

Joined
Aug 16, 2014
Messages
17,287
Reaction score
7,864
Still sounds like a lot of equivocation, as weeds put it - "Love wasn't 100% - There were a lot of untimely injuries, We almost beat Philly, The 1-5 record was an anomaly", and on and on.

It's just too much. It's the language some use to excuse a loss. There are no excuses, no moral victories. The only direction to take in football and life is forward.
Imo you’re sore and defensive over a couple of what? 2 or 3 point losses to good teams? If you can’t discuss football when someone brings up a topic or break down reasoning for losses (or wins) none of us should be here. Maybe just don’t say anything before scolding other posters. It isn’t really necessary imo.
We’re in here to talk football not take cheap shots

Btw. In every loss Matt discusses them. I’d love a reporter to say “you’re just making excuses” merely because he’s answering an accusation or question. So yes, it’s 110% a choice of respect (or lack thereof) thing to allow people to discuss football.
 
Last edited:

gopkrs

Cheesehead
Joined
May 12, 2014
Messages
6,224
Reaction score
1,709
There were I think two games last year (one against minnesota) where we got spanked almost all game long. Yes, we might have won in the end, but they were not fun to watch nor did they instill confidence. We need to be able to keep up offensively this year imho. btw I was watching a Commanders game yesterday. They are really going to be tough.
 
Joined
Aug 16, 2014
Messages
17,287
Reaction score
7,864
There were I think two games last year (one against minnesota) where we got spanked almost all game long. Yes, we might have won in the end, but they were not fun to watch nor did they instill confidence. We need to be able to keep up offensively this year imho. btw I was watching a Commanders game yesterday. They are really going to be tough.
There you go. I’m not afraid to call a spade a spade if we trailed pretty good.
I expected more passing plays, but I understood why were run first also. That run mix works better against teams who don’t have a top front 7

Or run more against teams who don’t have a great passing attack. Detroit and Minnesota are great Passing teams. Probably need to match that intensity. You rush for 4.5 per carry while they pass for 8.5 per pass at a 70% reception clip.
 
Joined
Aug 16, 2014
Messages
17,287
Reaction score
7,864
For as much as we all talked about our WR depth, we really didn’t have any singular player just standout last season. Nobody separated truly themselves. Good performances but a little short in cumulative production.

Jayden Reed eclipsed 850 which was close. Kraft was in that 700+ which is pretty stout at TE. If we’re going to match intensity with those Pass heavy teams, we need that + 1 more player in that 800+ Receiving range imo. Either that or the guy at Top needs 1100+ area.

Jefferson is in that 1,500-+ area
Addison matches Reed 800+

Amon Ra St Brown was 1250+
Jameson Williams had 1000+

Josh Jacobs per carry isn’t going to match the difference. Need to balance the Pass a little better. I think the Offense is slightly more talented up and down the Roster. Malik or Bo are likely packing their bags. So we’ve recognized the inferior O IMO. Golden is a stud
 
Last edited:

gopkrs

Cheesehead
Joined
May 12, 2014
Messages
6,224
Reaction score
1,709
There you go. I’m not afraid to call a spade a spade if we trailed pretty good.
I expected more passing plays, but I understood why were run first also. That run mix works better against teams who don’t have a top front 7

Or run more against teams who don’t have a great passing attack. Detroit and Minnesota are great Passing teams. Probably need to match that intensity. You rush for 4.5 per carry while they pass for 8.5 per pass at a 70% reception clip.
I don't often think it is a simple we needed to run more or whatever. For me the flow of the game and who we are playing dictates run or pass. I'm hoping this next year we can do both effectively. And so a lot depends on having a good game plan against a particular opponent. With an ability to change course fairly quickly (there's the rub) if it's not working.
 

Heyjoe4

Cheesehead
Joined
Apr 30, 2018
Messages
8,424
Reaction score
2,811
What?!??
Vikings 2025 Opponents (wins bolded):
Home:
Bears Packers, Lions, Eagles, Commanders, Ravens, Bengals, Falcons.
Away:
Bears, Packers, Lions, Cowboys, Giants, Steelers, Browns, Seahawks, Chargers.

Even if Minny goes 3-3 in the division (which may be a stretch) I think they'll finish 9-8 at best.
Hard to say with a new QB. If he connects quickly with Jefferson and Addison, well that's formidable. He's in a good situation, although I don't know anything about the queen's OL. It would be a big mistake to look past them.
 

Calebs Revenge

Cheesehead
Joined
Mar 21, 2024
Messages
750
Reaction score
385
I've been seeing some NFL predictions for the upcoming season start to pop up. Everyone seems to agree the Lions will win the division and the Vikings will finish last. As for the Packers and the Bears, two of them had the Bears second and the Packers third. And two had the Packers second and the Bears third.

So people seem to think the Bears are now on the Packers level basically. Not sure if that's because they think the Bears are improved, or if they're just not that impressed with the Packers.
It's absolutely believable that the Bears are on the Packers level and of course everyone knows that of course I think we're more on da Lions level......maybe a little under.....but we're definitely better than the Packers going into this season.

Not just talking absolute trash either (imho).....we have arguably the best young coach in football who has dominated y'all's head coach,
The Packers 1-5 against the division last year......
And.......it took a miracle blocked field goal for us to not sweep y'all for the first time in decades so yeah the Bears are absolutely on the Packers level and we'll see if we can pass up the Lions since they've lost Ben Johnson and we don't know what their offense is gonna look like without him......
Regardless, I cannot wait for the season to start!!!!!!!!!
LETS GET IT ON!!!!!!!!!!
 

Pkrjones

Cheesehead
Joined
Jul 3, 2014
Messages
4,311
Reaction score
2,159
Location
Northern IL
Hard to say with a new QB. If he connects quickly with Jefferson and Addison, well that's formidable. He's in a good situation, although I don't know anything about the queen's OL. It would be a big mistake to look past them.
 

Calebs Revenge

Cheesehead
Joined
Mar 21, 2024
Messages
750
Reaction score
385
If J.J.is the real deal....and your guy gets better....AND our guy gets better.....
The next 5-8 years are going to be AMAZING!!!!
Unfortunately, the chances of that happening are like next to nothing.....that all four of us will have a great quarterback.....
So I guess Caleb is going to have to take that mantle and just hold onto it for the next 20 years hahahhahahahahhahaha!!!!!!
 

milani

Cheesehead
Joined
Jun 11, 2012
Messages
5,457
Reaction score
2,315
What?!??
Vikings 2025 Opponents (wins bolded):
Home:
Bears Packers, Lions, Eagles, Commanders, Ravens, Bengals, Falcons.
Away:
Bears, Packers, Lions, Cowboys, Giants, Steelers, Browns, Seahawks, Chargers.

Even if Minny goes 3-3 in the division (which may be a stretch) I think they'll finish 9-8 at best.
Could be where all 3 teams wind up give or take a game. Lions still have a powerful offense and if healthy on defense should win 12 or 13. 2nd place likely goes to the team with the better D.
 
Joined
Aug 16, 2014
Messages
17,287
Reaction score
7,864
In Chicago, Caleb had a moderately good year. He’s a very scrappy QB. He runs well when the play breaks down. 487 yards at 6 per. In itself that’s remarkable. However that desire to do too much with his legs can be traced back to a whopping 68 Sacks for a -466 yards. That’s detrimental level to long term health and success. It’s a beating as we call it.

The biggest concern I have with Caleb is his range, his protection and his decision making in allowing the play to develop. 46 yards long and 6.3 yard Average range across 17 games is low. Love and Hurts finished at 8.0 yards per toss. Chicago does not have a deep ball threat and I’d argue Defenses will continue to bring more pressure, at least that’s what I’d do.

Accuracy? While 62.5% Catch average is normal range, it’s on the lower end of normal if your depth to target is lower. You'd expect Caleb accuracy would be higher than average, not lower. So you look to that accuracy and Caleb posted a moderately high 21.1% “off target %. Which is just the opposite of what you’d expect.
Love on the EXACT same pocket time 2.4 sec is 18.2% or more normal. Hurts on 2.7sec to throw was 13.8% “off target”, which is more normal to good imo.

Also. Caleb’s Bats, Throwaways and Spikes were moderate to leaning High (39) 17 games
Hurts (34) 15 games
Love (20) 14 games
Love actually was very efficient in plays that were broken.

Caleb’s Receivers are normal in catching (20 drops, 17 games)
Hurts (6 drops, 15 games)
Love (30 drops, 14 games)

This isn’t all to say Caleb is all bad or anything like that. After all it’s 1 season. These are signs to me he needs much better protection and moderately better decision making and accuracy. Both Love and Hurts First full season floated a more normal 17.5% to 13.8% Bad throws.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Aug 16, 2014
Messages
17,287
Reaction score
7,864
so the Bears did what you naturally thought they would do. They went out and signed Joe Thuney and Jonah Jackson so they got a slight upgrade at 1 OG + the definitive upgrade at the other. Chicago threw $75M in Top 4 FA contracts, leaving them on cap fumes and likely borrowing from 2026 monies.
I loved the story behind the Trapilo Signing to get them a shot at OT. You older guys might recall his late Father, Steve Trapilo who played for the Saints also at OL. His son followed in his footsteps by playing for Boston College also. He’s got plenty length at 6’7”+

Loveland and Luther Burden III were the obvious moves to upgrade the 2024 lackluster Passing attack mentioned above and to get that leaky OL righted. However they lost Keenan Allen, so that’s a heavy offset. Also you’re relying on raw Rookie production, at least for 1-2 seasons.

I think Chicago 100% improved. Although its young improvement like we had 1-2 seasons ago. I’m just not sold they are better than the Lions Vikings Packers in real time. The Packers also improved and MN will likely regress. So while we get exited about our own teams, we always have to remember our Division is evolving also. GB isn’t the same team from 2024. Our Roster projection is a tick better than our Wildcard finish. IMO we’re a legit Divisional contender.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Aug 16, 2014
Messages
17,287
Reaction score
7,864
Past the OL and TE/WR rooms, the Bears didn’t resign DE, Demarcus Walker. Who’s similar to Slaton but at DE. He was a veteran presence with above average impact (16 QB hits per season 2022-2024. Instead they replaced him with Shemar Turner in the middle of Day2.
Now Shemar should be a good player eventually. Right now today he’s likely more of a rotational player. He uses more physical approach, but is said to need to incorporate Pass Rush Skills which are lacking. He’s a solid Rookie, but in no way shape or form is he an upgrade. Similar to GB Chicago went NEEDS based. While in a win now that’s smart, I don’t think it’s smart for 2025 to rely on a Rookie WR to replace Keenan or a Rookie DE to replace Walker.
Chicago got a nice upgrade at OG (Thuney)and TE. Similar to Packers at OG and WR. Chicago took a slight step backwards at DL imo.
 
Joined
Aug 16, 2014
Messages
17,287
Reaction score
7,864
Beyond that Chicago cleaned out their TE room and sent packing Gerald Everett, Tommy Sweeney and Mercedes Lewis. The obvious upgrade being Loveland at #10 overall. They did sign Dolphins Durham Smythe. He’s Chicago’s best attempt at replacing that Mercedes Role on cheap $$. An old school Blocking TE

In summary Chicago probably got better overall in the + to - category balance sheet. Should be better at iOL and Loveland will be a nice chess piece. Beyond that they replaced our own Jack Sanborn with LB, Hypoolite II. He’s compact and very fast. However.. his number 1 weakness is he gets completely washed out by bigger OL who make it to him in second level. GB just happened to go bigger and heavier in upgrading Run offense. Not a good counter measure vs GB.

Chicago had a nice draft. Unfortunately they had lots of holes also. I’d have them maybe a sliver above GB in total offseason upgrades. However they also spent much more than GB. Like Double our Guaranteed across FA, Draft.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Aug 16, 2014
Messages
17,287
Reaction score
7,864
MN will suffer because imo, they just didn’t have enough Draft equity to respond to last minute needs. They smartly plugged Donovan at OL. He was supposed to come out last Draft I picked him. he’s kinda the OG version of Morgan, very safe, high floor player Much of their OL relies on Darrisaw returning from a MAJOR injury. BOTH an MCL + ACL surgery mid season 2024. Donovan is too short 6’3.5 to play LT consistently. Even though some will argue because he played there at a high level at OSU to replace Simmons. That likely won’t work at the pro level. He’s a Stud OG though and he can play LT in emergency duty for sure. The taller faster DE in Pros will eat him alive imo. In college LT rely on quickness disparity. In NFL many guys will match that quickness plus add length.

I have my personal over/under on Wins Loss totals off 2024 finishes as follows. Obviously it’s guess but on paper and factoring experience level, personnel moves, coaching changes, injury situation etc..

Detroit -2.5
Minnesota -3.5
GB +1.0
Chicago +3.5

GB is built like a 12 Win team in a strong Division. Any fan, including you Caleb! ;) Trying to say The Packers are somehow are not good and using a historical anomoly to prove it are not being honest with themselves.

I suspect our D will finish in that Top 5-10 once again. Plenty good enough to slow opponents and give an upgraded Offense a better opportunity to finish on the Winning side of 29-31
 
Last edited:

Calebs Revenge

Cheesehead
Joined
Mar 21, 2024
Messages
750
Reaction score
385
In Chicago, Caleb had a moderately good year. He’s a very scrappy QB. He runs well when the play breaks down. 487 yards at 6 per. In itself that’s remarkable. However that desire to do too much with his legs can be traced back to a whopping 68 Sacks for a -466 yards. That’s detrimental level to long term health and success. It’s a beating as we call it.

The biggest concern I have with Caleb is his range, his protection and his decision making in allowing the play to develop. 46 yards long and 6.3 yard Average range across 17 games is low. Love and Hurts finished at 8.0 yards per toss. Chicago does not have a deep ball threat and I’d argue Defenses will continue to bring more pressure, at least that’s what I’d do.

Accuracy? While 62.5% Catch average is normal range, it’s on the lower end of normal if your depth to target is lower. You'd expect Caleb accuracy would be higher than average, not lower. So you look to that accuracy and Caleb posted a moderately high 21.1% “off target %. Which is just the opposite of what you’d expect.
Love on the EXACT same pocket time 2.4 sec is 18.2% or more normal. Hurts on 2.7sec to throw was 13.8% “off target”, which is more normal to good imo.

Also. Caleb’s Bats, Throwaways and Spikes were moderate to leaning High (39) 17 games
Hurts (34) 15 games
Love (20) 14 games
Love actually was very efficient in plays that were broken.

Caleb’s Receivers are normal in catching (20 drops, 17 games)
Hurts (6 drops, 15 games)
Love (30 drops, 14 games)

This isn’t all to say Caleb is all bad or anything like that. After all it’s 1 season. These are signs to me he needs much better protection and moderately better decision making and accuracy. Both Love and Hurts First full season floated a more normal 17.5% to 13.8% Bad throws.
No deep ball threat????????
DJ can ball.
Luther can ball.
I. Scott is a guy with 4.3 wheels.

I know this is gonna shock you, but Eberflus and our offensive coordinator musical chairs group never saw fit to use him (Scott) properly as a "run down the field and take the top off the defense", kind of guy....if only on a small percentage of plays......but he can do it.

I just don't think you all are prepared to see what Ben Johnson does with the talent Ryan poles our Gen manager has assembled.
The only offensive coach that I think we've ever had was the guy from the CFL Mark Trestman, who just could not control a group of NFL millionaire adults....... and he lost control of the locker room.
I'm 44 and for the first time in my life, we have a generational quarterback and an offensive minded genius head coach again. I don't think anybody is ready for what the Bears are about to be because we're gonna go against 100 years of our tradition and it's not your father's Bears anymore.
I could be wrong, but it's Ben Johnson coaching Da Team now not the mentally challenged group before.
We can call timeouts now and I wish it wasn't true, but that's how low the bar is.......calling freaking timeouts in very important game situation..... because you know Coach Eberflus had issues with that concept!!!!!!!!!!

And this is the real sad but maybe good part......Virginia Halas, who has now passed on. God, rest her soul and bless her family. She was from a different time and a very, very, very different generation. She is no longer the controlling voice of the team and I believe it's going to be a new era of Bears football..... y'all enjoy now...ya hear?!?!?!,!!!!!!!
 
Last edited:
Joined
Aug 16, 2014
Messages
17,287
Reaction score
7,864
No deep ball threat????????
DJ can ball.
Luther can ball.
I. Scott is a guy with 4.3 wheels.

I know this is gonna shock you, but Eberflus and our offensive coordinator musical chairs group never saw fit to use him (Scott) properly as a "run down the field and take the top off the defense", kind of guy....if only on a small percentage of plays......but he can do it.

I just don't think you all are prepared to see what Ben Johnson does with the talent Ryan poles our Gen manager has assembled.
The only offensive coach that I think we've ever had was the guy from the CFL Mark Trestman, who just could not control a group of NFL millionaire adults....... and he lost control of the locker room.
I'm 44 and for the first time in my life, we have a generational quarterback and an offensive minded genius head coach again. I don't think anybody is ready for what the Bears are about to be because we're gonna go against 100 years of our tradition and it's not your father's Bears anymore.
I could be wrong, but it's Ben Johnson coaching Da Team now not the mentally challenged group before.
We can call timeouts now and I wish it wasn't true, but that's how low the bar is.......calling freaking timeouts in very important game situation..... because you know Coach Eberflus had issues with that concept!!!!!!!!!!

And this is the real sad but maybe good part Virginia Hallis, who has now passed on. God, rest her soul and bless her family. She was from a different time and a very, very, very different generation. She is no longer the controlling voice of the team and I believe it's going to be a new era of Bears football..... y'all enjoy now...ya hear?!?!?!,!!!!!!!
Caleb Williams ranked #28 in QBR. That’s an important metric. Here the guys at the top. What do they have in common? They are all Winners imo.

1. Lamar Jackson
2. Josh Allen
3. Joe Burrow
4. Jayden Daniels
5. Jordan Love
6. Jared Goff
7. Brock Purdy
8. Pat Mahomes
9. Kyler Murray
10. Jalen Hurts.

QBR factors in Passer rating and Strength of Defense played.
These are the big boys. Call them the Pro version of the SEC leaders.

60% of those won their Division
70% Won 11+ games
90% of them had Winning records.
1 missed and that was Kyler with a
8-9 record.

90% finished with a top 11 Offense
70% finished with a Top 8 Offense

So maybe Caleb is the Best to ever play. Until we see it? Williams has to at minimum prove he belongs. I’ll give him a Pass, he was a Rookie trying to find his way last year. He’s got plenty of weapons this season and plenty of $$ invested. His Window is now. In a couple of years he’ll be looking to get paid or replaced either one. I’m sorry but 28th in QBR is not good. Mostly hype. About lost to Malik Willis and our backup crew on Offense in Week 18, go look.
 
Last edited:

Calebs Revenge

Cheesehead
Joined
Mar 21, 2024
Messages
750
Reaction score
385
Caleb Williams ranked #28 in QBR. That’s an important metric. Here the guys at the top. What do they have in common? They are all Winners imo.

1. Lamar Jackson
2. Josh Allen
3. Joe Burrow
4. Jayden Daniels
5. Jordan Love
6. Jared Goff
7. Brock Purdy
8. Pat Mahomes
9. Kyler Murray
10. Jalen Hurts.

QBR factors in Passer rating and Strength of Defense played.
These are the big boys. Call them the Pro version of the SEC leaders.

60% of those won their Division
70% Won 11+ games
90% of them had Winning records.
1 missed and that was Kyler with a
8-9 record.

90% finished with a top 11 Offense
70% finished with a Top 8 Offense

So maybe Caleb is the Best to ever play. Until we see it? Williams has to at minimum prove he belongs. I’ll give him a Pass, he was a Rookie trying to find his way last year. He’s got plenty of weapons this season and plenty of $$ invested. His Window is now. In a couple of years he’ll be looking to get paid or replaced either one. I’m sorry but 28th in QBR is not good. Mostly hype. About lost to Malik Willis and our backup crew on Offense in Week 18, go look.
to be 100% completely honest..... I couldn't care less what any of Caleb's numbers were last season!!!!
Why you keep bringing up old stuff? Hahahahhahahaha
J/K
There was a 40 yard dot to DJ in the Carolina game. He hit swift on a ridiculous rollout......He dropped it in between two players 30 yards down field l. There are another dozen examples of plays that just make you go wow.
Trust me, my quarterback has never made me say wow
My guy has the talent.
The line was horrible.
The play calling was horrible.
I mean come on...our coach couldn't even call time out to save a game on Thanksgiving day when the entire nation is watching!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've almost never been as embarrassed as I was at that moment of my organization!!!
But they knew that and Virginia God Rest Her Soul.....passed away and it's a new era of Bears football now......
They backed up the Brinks truck for Coach Johnson.......so I don't care about any of Caleb's numbers LAST YEAR.
Ben Johnson is running the offense now I have complete faith in that so, like I said you can you throw out any number you want from last year again....that's last year.
I know what I've seen the last three years from Ben Johnson's offense in Detroit and I know what pieces we have on our team and I think Ben Johnson is going to make the best of both .
That is all....
 

Calebs Revenge

Cheesehead
Joined
Mar 21, 2024
Messages
750
Reaction score
385
And I'm really looking forward to the pick em league again this year!!!!!
Come see if you can beat a stupid Bears fan hahhahahahahhha
I dare ya!!!!!!!!
 

Calebs Revenge

Cheesehead
Joined
Mar 21, 2024
Messages
750
Reaction score
385
And you know I love you old-school!!!!
I'm celebrating tonight because my new job is going awesome and........
me and the wife got a SWEET deal on an 85 inch TV!!!!
I mean this thing is ridiculous. It's as big as my wall and I'm just foaming at the mouth to watch the first Bears-Packers game on this bad boy at my house!!!!!
No more getting kicked out of bars for this guy .Hahhahahahahahahahahaha
it's unreal and it was the sale of the freaking century so I'm just super stoked right now!!!!!
Life is great and I hope.....life for all you boys is great too..... except in the upcoming season ha ha ha ha!!!
CHEERS BOYS!!!!!
Here's to the 2025 2026 NFC North champs whoever they may be!!!!!!!!
 

Thirteen Below

Cheesehead
Joined
Jan 15, 2022
Messages
1,449
Reaction score
1,185
Hard to say with a new QB. If he connects quickly with Jefferson and Addison, well that's formidable.

The thing that I keep going back to is that there are a lot of indicators that the club doesn't have as much confidence in him as they keep assuring everyone that they do.

Any time they came within 20 feet of a microphone, they'd rush over and shout at it how much they trust McCarthy, how confident they are that he's ready, and how comfortable they are going into the season. But at the same time, they were talking with almost every free agent QB in the league - Rodgers, of course, but also Daniel Jones, Jimmy Garoppolo, Mac Jones, and even Carson Wentz, for Pete's sake. Plus they apparently gave strong consideration to another dance with Darnold.

That doesn't sound to me like a team that is "totally confident going into the season with JJ McCarthy". If they're that interested in other QBs, I think it's a strong indicator that they're not all that excited about the one that they already have.

Now there are a couple of possible explanations. First, it could be that they're just covering their *****, but they've had the guy in their system for a full year now, and that should be enough time to assess whether he's "getting it", and they should have already had plenty of time for their medical staff to satisfy themselves that hie injury is no longer a problem. So this could mean that behind the scenes, they're not satisfied with at least one of those situations.

Or it could also mean that they see the "arc" of their team similarly to what a couple of us have said here - that they've been going all in to build a team for a strong run in a short window (rather than a solid foundation for several years to come), and that if it takes 2 years for McCarthy to get up to full potential, they're going to be on the descent by the time he's truly ready.

Or it could be something else none of us have thought of; or it could even mean nothing at all. It's just that it seems like in the corporate world, and your boss keeps telling you what a great job you're doing, but every weekend you notice that they're running ads in the Sunday paper looking for an opening that sounds an awful lot like what you're already doing.

Their organization is not acting as though they are fully confident in McCarthy. I'm curious why not.

He's in a good situation, although I don't know anything about the queen's OL. It would be a big mistake to look past them.
They've got an excellent O line, damn them to hell.

They had a very good line last year, and they improved these past few months. Various websites project the 2025 Vikings as a Top 10 line, with a couple ranking them as high as #5. At the same time, Green Bay's O-line seems to consistently check in at #8-11 - seldom (if ever) much higher. The consensus among the (seemingly) more credible sources, like ESPN, SI, etc, pretty much stacks us up dead even.

All the quibbling about who's #7 and who's #8, or whatever, is all noise and no signal. Both of these teams are going into 2025 boasting a strong wall in front of their young, developing quarterback, and neither of them are significantly vulnerable relative to the other on that issue.

What I see this comparison coming down is mostly this - which of the two teams improved their running game the most. And if that's the lens through which we are looking, Minnesota would seem to show the most substantial improvement.

Except that Green Bay ended 2024 with the #6 running game in the NFL, and we improved too. It seems unlikely we will slide back from that #6 slot. Whereas Minnesota finished at #19, so they would have to have become exponentially better to surpass us.

And I didn't notice them doing that. They probably strengthened their ground game, maybe quite a bit, but we strengthened ours as well. We should be much stronger on the ground than Minnesota.

And I don't care so much about JJ or JA catching footballs, if 1st-year starter JJ McCarthy is the one throwing the footballs at JJ and AJ. If Jordan Love in his 3rd season as a starter is the QB most of us think he is (and all of us hope he is), our passing game should be significantly better than theirs.

I don't make predictions about final standings in the middle of May. There are way, wayyy to many unknowns and unknowables. I'll just say that right now, I feel that we have a better shot at winning the division than possibly any of the other three teams.
 

Heyjoe4

Cheesehead
Joined
Apr 30, 2018
Messages
8,424
Reaction score
2,811
Imo you’re sore and defensive over a couple of what? 2 or 3 point losses to good teams? If you can’t discuss football when someone brings up a topic or break down reasoning for losses (or wins) none of us should be here. Maybe just don’t say anything before scolding other posters. It isn’t really necessary imo.
We’re in here to talk football not take cheap shots

Btw. In every loss Matt discusses them. I’d love a reporter to say “you’re just making excuses” merely because he’s answering an accusation or question. So yes, it’s 110% a choice of respect (or lack thereof) thing to allow people to discuss football.
I just don't like excuses about a season that is over. I mean it's May. It serves no purpose. As for MLF, of course he discusses wins and losses on the day of the game and on one of his TV shows the following week. Then he and the team move on, as he should, as should everyone.

What is important is what the team is doing now to prevent such losses. Gluten has done a good job in FA and the draft to address those issues.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Aug 16, 2014
Messages
17,287
Reaction score
7,864
And you know I love you old-school!!!!
I'm celebrating tonight because my new job is going awesome and........
me and the wife got a SWEET deal on an 85 inch TV!!!!
I mean this thing is ridiculous. It's as big as my wall and I'm just foaming at the mouth to watch the first Bears-Packers game on this bad boy at my house!!!!!
No more getting kicked out of bars for this guy .Hahhahahahahahahahahaha
it's unreal and it was the sale of the freaking century so I'm just super stoked right now!!!!!
Life is great and I hope.....life for all you boys is great too..... except in the upcoming season ha ha ha ha!!!
CHEERS BOYS!!!!!
Here's to the 2025 2026 NFC North champs whoever they may be!!!!!!!!
Oh I’m just busting your chops! Hope we repeat 2010 NFC game! Literally :cool:
 

Members online

No members online now.

Latest posts

Top