Josh Jacobs facing charges…

[GreenBaySlacker]

I partly agree I think people need to be held to account regardless of their status.
That said I find in many cases that an accurate depiction of exactly what happened is hard to achieve. unrelated there’s the persuasion principle with many domestic cases. Meaning even when we often see the 10 second video clip, it can be deceptive. If someone goes into a bar and starts uses intimidation or some form of initiating a dispute, especially if it’s continually harassment etc, it can lead to harsh consequences and even get physical. There have been many Court cases that dissolve over the defendant being found to have initiated or provoked a dispute or argument unnecessarily. Exasperating things well beyond normal boundaries and this is especially true with people that know how to press our buttons so to speak (family or close friends).

While violence is never a good answer, there are absolutely cases in law that with completely avoidable or unnecessary provocation was deemed to have caused a physical altercation or taking it to the next level. Even after it became physical, the so called victim continued escalating the provoking nature of the dispute. It’s very rare that someone gets to the level of choking without any part or as a completely innocent victim. Not saying it doesn’t happen ever, but I highly doubt Josh just decided to assault some innocent bystander without any warning or reason. We see it in the NFL all the time with the last guy being the fall guy. Yet the dispute got going long before the flags get thrown. It’s the same principle “it takes 2 to tango”. Heck sometimes someone complete uninvolved gets involved and takes the fall.

The other point I’ll say is if Josh wanted to strangle someone to death I’m pretty sure he’d be 100% capable. He’s a 220lb muscle bound man with enough strength to end someone’s life if that’s his objective. It takes about 5 seconds to put someone unconscious. It takes about 25 seconds to end their life. If that was his intent he’d be in jail in Murder charged. I’m 99% sure that wasn’t his intent IF this is even all factual. It’s entirely possible there’s some degree of embellishment here.

The other factor I’d like to offer is there are people who genuinely look to get $$ from wealthy people through foul extortion or purposely initiating an altercation for monetary gain. His class of people $$ get picked on more for strategic financial fraud than most of us living paycheck to paycheck. I don’t think that’s some big revelation.

While I have no idea of the particulars. It’s very easy to go witch hunting when we see the headlines. If Josh was our immediate family member that we know to be a good person, I’m pretty sure each of us would be defending his character. If it was our family member as the victim sldo similarly.

There's no excuse for violence. Ever. We are all adults who have the freedom of speech. If something someone says make you want to hit them. That's a problem in civilized society. This isnt the ghetto.

People should be able to go to a public place and say the truth, and not get punched for it. And if it's not the truth, and someone corrects you disrespectfully. Then maybe it's time to go home. Not punch them ... Sometimes the disrespect is the point. Society calling you out and embarrassing you to show you where you're going wrong.... I mean. My favorite hobby is cussing out internet Nazis. They feel like getting violent, I'm happy to press charges. That's how I roll. Let the lawyers do the fighting. Lol like adults.

If that sounds specific, it is. And it's also part of a 35 year trend ..... That is going to end. . And words are going to be what ends it, not violence.

See like Jacob's. When a full grown man decides to get physical. People get broken. Felonies get passed around like candy at a parade. You have to know your freedom isn't worth being a tough guy...

Now self defense. That's a whole different story. It should also be respected when a man capable of violence, is attacked, and doesn't use that opportunity to hurt someone ... Let the law handle the situation.

 

[OldSchool101]

As they should...no life is worth rushing...that can create falsehoods, false victims and falsely convicted people.

True. I mean that young guy that murdered the Idaho students had enough evidence to convict him 3X. Yet it felt like 2 years before anything came to a resolution. Josh deserves a better Defense and time than a convicted multi murderer. Unless he’s deemed dangerous to society. The mere fact they released him so quickly kinda speaks to he’s not some dangerous Felon roaming the streets looking for innocent people to assault. No offense but I’ve run across a few people I’d like to choke, I just don’t have the courage! Being funny but maybe not!

Btw I spoke truthfully earlier. I actually was assaulted lifting weights and I passed out being choked as I finished a set. Should I go after attempted murder charges? Try for a 5Mil lawsuit?? Cmon why not? Because I’m a Male it’s ok? Not every choking incident is worthy of life in prison sometimes people just do the wrong thing. If everybody that did the wrong thing was locked up we’d all be doing consecutive life sentences.

 

[Heyjoe4]

There isn't a victim until proven. Just as Jacobs is not a criminal, she is not a victim either at this time. Potentially...claimed...are the adjectives to describe both of them presently as nothing has been proven.

Yes technically you're right. But you don't seem to understand the reality of the world we live in - it's driven by perception, right or wrong.

Bolding my comment about the victim only makes you look tone deaf and insensitive, fairly or not.

 

[tynimiller]

Yes technically you're right. But you don't seem to understand the reality of the world we live in - it's driven by perception, right or wrong.

Bolding my comment about the victim only makes you look tone deaf and insensitive, fairly or not.

Why would bolding a line out, indicating what your responding to (common in forum discussions), make me look tone deaf and insensitive?

My reply if anything, at least in my opinion, illustrates a sensitivity level to both parties higher than some would have be already defaulting to who is guilty or a victim or a liar - all the above is unknown.

 

[GreenBaySlacker]

Why would bolding a line out, indicating what your responding to (common in forum discussions), make me look tone deaf and insensitive?

My reply if anything, at least in my opinion, illustrates a sensitivity level to both parties higher than some would have be already defaulting to who is guilty or a victim or a liar - all the above is unknown.

To explain my life to some people who live in a safe controlled environment. Corporate environment is professionals working together. Drama maybe but no violence. There's rules... A standard.

I was the crew leader for a traveling log home crew. I usually had a complete roster turn over every house I built. Met some great people... More times than not though, if someone's willing to drop what they're doing and leave for a month or 6 weeks. They usually have a few screw loose. Roughnecks

To keep the peace, sometimes I had to square up and let them know this chiz doesn't happen in my space. Show my teeth if I had to. Lol.

You know if I did that in the corporate environment. What would their perception be?
Does it matter if there was never a fight, and I haven't thrown a punch to hit someone since I was 19? 28 years...in a hostile environment.... Keeping these roughnecks from self destructing...?

From my perception. I should get a medal or something. Lol.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Innocent until proven guilty of course, but Detroit Lions star CB is also in the middle of some "legal troubles."

Lions CB Terrion Arnold charged with directing attack, held in jail at least until Monday hearing

Lions cornerback Terrion Arnold was charged Thursday in Florida with leading a plot to detain and pistol-whip three people whom he believed had stolen from him, crimes that could carry a sentence of up to life in prison.

www.nfl.com

 

[GreenBaySlacker]

Innocent until proven guilty of course, but Detroit Lions star CB is also in the middle of some "legal troubles."

Lions CB Terrion Arnold charged with directing attack, held in jail at least until Monday hearing

Lions cornerback Terrion Arnold was charged Thursday in Florida with leading a plot to detain and pistol-whip three people whom he believed had stolen from him, crimes that could carry a sentence of up to life in prison.

www.nfl.com

All the gangsta "snitches get stitches" boys seemed to roll on him pretty quick. Lol.
"He told us to do it"!!! Lol

Well, another great example of how violence doesn't pay. People want to be gangsta , then they end up where gangstas end up. Dead, prison, or on the streets.

Florida is a cesspool....

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

All the gangsta "snitches get stitches" boys seemed to roll on him pretty quick. Lol.
"He told us to do it"!!! Lol

Well, another great example of how violence doesn't pay. People want to be gangsta , then they end up where gangstas end up. Dead, prison, or on the streets.

Florida is a cesspool....

Yup.....whether it is "gangsta" crime like this or white collar crime like we saw from Favre, it's pretty much the same story. People thinking that societal norms and laws don't apply to them.

 

[GreenBaySlacker]

Yup.....whether it is "gangsta" crime like this or white collar crime like we saw from Favre, it's pretty much the same story. People thinking that societal norms and laws don't apply to them.

Nailed it.
I read the US House of Representatives went in another vacation because Mike Johnson says. Well you can watch the clips….The real abusers are so disconnected from reality that they are saying the quiet part out loud. Like they were doing in 2024. When the Stanford tech mafia stole the election.

There was a sighting of the white collar grim reaper in DC I heard. Tooo.

The people doing the investigating aren’t privy to what’s actually been discovered. Their perspective is through the lens of illusion. Their undermining of the truth only implicates them in a vary large and devastating treason Rico case. The biggest the world has ever seen. War crimes, crimes against humanity, fraud that has created $40 trillion in embezzlement and that’s not counting the collateral damage that has put the entire country’s finances at high risk. All for foreign entities. Over the course of decades…

Long story short, the German ashkeNAZI Jewish sect trafficked and hijacked the world bank trust, from the French Canadian “liberty and justice for all” Catholics who started the trust fund. Which is a philanthropy bank trust created for the better good of the whole and everyone involved. It created the sovereign Washington DC to manage and protect it. The trust Stolen from The Epstein/trump victims…

Now that the Nazis stole it, we all work for Israel?
And trust assets like Greenland are being claimed are “Dutch since the 1600s”… etc etc etc. it’s all fraud and domestic terrorism. That truth is already out and the change as I said. The wheels of change are in motion.

The folks who believe they are above the law are working double time to justify their actions and cover their tracks

Little do they know, the judge, jury, and executioner has already made the decisions.

Things ARE changing. Consequences are coming.