Good Bye J’aire Alexander

[Heyjoe4]

I saw Harbaugh said the other day that he's going to need some time to get back into game shape, and he's not going to put him out theeruntil he's confident that he is. Apparently, at this point it's mostly a conditioning issue; hopefully he doesn't re-ignite the knee injury while working out.

Time to get back into game shape? Now that's ridiculous. What haw he been doing for the last 6 months, or during TC. Yeah this is a HC maybe covering for a bad decision by the GM.

 

[Thirteen Below]

Time to get back into game shape? Now that's ridiculous. What haw he been doing for the last 6 months, or during TC. Yeah this is a HC maybe covering for a bad decision by the GM.

I can give it the benefit of the doubt, after seeing what horrible shape he was in Week One. He didn't look at all like he belonged there; both physically and mentally slow. Given the nature of the injury, he probably hasn't been able to run in months.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Jaire inactive...again

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

The Ravens have traded Jaire to the Eagles. I wonder if they got an all day sucker for him?

 

[Pugger]

The Ravens have traded Jaire to the Eagles. I wonder if they got an all day sucker for him?

Philly that desperate for info on us??

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Philly that desperate for info on us??

Philly fans will be able to look forward to the 90 minute mark before each game, to find out that Jaire is inactive again.

 

[OldSchool101]

Philly fans will be able to look forward to the 90 minute mark before each game, to find out that Jaire is inactive again.

Yes. Don’t rule him out for the OT coin toss though

 

[milani]

Yes. Don’t rule him out for the OT coin toss though

At least the Packers will not have to worry about Hobbs getting burned for a while. He won't be playing because of a block by Yosh last Sunday.

 

[Sanguine camper]

At least the Packers will not have to worry about Hobbs getting burned for a while. He won't be playing because of a block by Yosh last Sunday.

Packers got absolutely beat up last week. Not only was it an embarrassment but they were beaten on the LOS by a Panthers O line that was missing 3 starters.

Has there been a worse regular season loss in the last 25 years? From a lot of different perspectives, it could be. Time will tell but the stench of that game is going to need a massive scrubbing to wash off.

 

[milani]

Packers got absolutely beat up last week. Not only was it an embarrassment but they were beaten on the LOS by a Panthers O line that was missing 3 starters.

Has there been a worse regular season loss in the last 25 years? From a lot of different perspectives, it could be. Time will tell but the stench of that game is going to need a massive scrubbing to wash off.

What made the game seem a wash was that the Panthers not only got blown out on their home field last week but that they were blown out for nearly all of 2024. Hidden in their pocketbook was a 4-4 record which no one really noticed. I still believe that they are an average team at best and we should have been ready.

 

[Magooch]

Packers got absolutely beat up last week. Not only was it an embarrassment but they were beaten on the LOS by a Panthers O line that was missing 3 starters.

Has there been a worse regular season loss in the last 25 years? From a lot of different perspectives, it could be. Time will tell but the stench of that game is going to need a massive scrubbing to wash off.

From what I recall reading, at least in terms of the betting line it's the worst loss we've ever taken lol

 

[milani]

From what I recall reading, at least in terms of the betting line it's the worst loss we've ever taken lol

It certainly is up there. Yet, we were only one play away from escaping.

 

[OldSchool101]

Packers got absolutely beat up last week. Not only was it an embarrassment but they were beaten on the LOS by a Panthers O line that was missing 3 starters.

Has there been a worse regular season loss in the last 25 years? From a lot of different perspectives, it could be. Time will tell but the stench of that game is going to need a massive scrubbing to wash off.

Personally I think you’ve highly estimated Carolina. A Walk off FG to a .500 team is not anywhere close to our worst loss since 2000. This is a total exaggeration. The worst beating in recent history was our 3-38 Aaron Rodgers vs Saints game moved to Jacksonville.
While expectations lead yo disappointment, our tie game with :01 sec in regulation and needing a near ~50 yard FG to Win is called a “squeaking by the skin of your teeth” type Win. The only thing closer would’ve been a Hail Mary or 60+ yard FG to Win.

The only thing without egregious embellishment here is we absolutely got beat up. Starters exiting were CB, DT, LG and TE. Our star TE lost for the season. When cumulative games missed go beyond 10+ games I’d agree we got beat up pretty good.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

The only thing without egregious embellishment here is we absolutely got beat up. Starters exiting were CB, DT, LG and TE. Our star TE lost for the season. When cumulative games missed go beyond 10+ games I’d agree we got beat up pretty good.

Agree. Sucks to lose a game that you are supposed to win, but losing Kraft, Hobbs, Banks and Wooden to injuries stings even more. Also, Golden was dinged up (shoulder), as well as Savion Williams (foot) so there is that as well.

I don't want to make any excuses, but when Tucker went down in the 3rd Q and everyone knew it was serious, that really let the air out of the crowd and possibly the players as well.

 

[OldSchool101]

Agree. Sucks to lose a game that you are supposed to win, but losing Kraft, Hobbs, Banks and Wooden to injuries stings even more. Also, Golden was dinged up (shoulder), as well as Savion Williams (foot) so there is that as well.

I don't want to make any excuses, but when Tucker went down in the 3rd Q and everyone knew it was serious, that really let the air out of the crowd and possibly the players as well.

I don’t know why but the Packers tend to play better when expectations are high and Vice Versa.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I don’t know why but the Packers tend to play better when expectations are high and Vice Versa.

Whose expectations?

The oddsmakers expectations were really high, as were the fans, against Carolina. I don't know what the coaches and players expectations were, but I guarantee you after the game most of them said "That's a really good Carolina team".

 

[OldSchool101]

Whose expectations?

The oddsmakers expectations were really high, as were the fans, against Carolina. I don't know what the coaches and players expectations were, but I guarantee you after the game most of them said "That's a really good Carolina team".

True. I think I meant low or high expectations for a Victory, that came out backwards. When we go to play a playoff caliber team our more recent history is we do battle. Either lose a close one or win. When we go play a team deemed as struggling we go in as if it’s ok to score 3 or 6 points across multiple quarters and still come out on top.

Hard to let one’s guard down with Philly. They beat us TWICE last year. They’re as close to a Division opponent as we can get without being in the North.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

True. I think I meant low or high expectations for a Victory, that came out backwards. When we go to play a playoff caliber team our more recent history is we do battle. Either lose a close one or win. When we go play a team deemed as struggling we go in as if it’s ok to score 3 or 6 points across multiple quarters and still come out on top.

Hard to let one’s guard down with Philly. They beat us TWICE last year. They’re as close to a Division opponent as we can get without being in the North.

So basically, we play to the level of our opponent?

I will agree with you on this and to me it is a problem. One that I mostly put on the coaching staff and it was also an issue with some of the Mike McCarthy teams.
Why do I say that it is mostly on the coaching staff? I think it is their job to approach every game the same. It really shouldn't matter what the record of the next team that they are facing is. They should do a thorough job with breaking down opponents strengths and weaknesses and prepare a game plan accordingly.

Coaches need to prepare their players both mentally and physically. The better teams don't have a problem doing this. If they do, it seems like they go in at half time, make the necessary adjustments and come back out for the 2nd half and get the job done. I don't watch a ton of other teams, but a college team where I see this all the time, is the Ohio State Buckeyes. My brother is a big fan of the Buckeyes, so I keep a casual eye on them. I can't tell you how many times they will be in a game that appears to be close at half time, and then they just come out in the 2nd half and dominate.

Some day soon, I hope MLF and his coaching staff can be dominant when they should be and when they do face better teams, grind out the wins.

 

[Magooch]

That's what I was going to say, I thought kind of the opposite too. Whether you call it "pressure" or "expectations" we seem to play much better when we can just be "loose," I guess. Like a couple years ago, I think we were 5-5 or 5-6 and went into Arrowhead and played the Chiefs and beat them pretty handily. They were defending champs AND went on to win that same season too, but we handled them. Or when we go into Dallas as the 7 seed and trounce them in the playoffs. Even this year most everyone was picking the Lions to win week 1 and many would've picked the Commanders too, but we won those.

But then it's the "should wins" that we are big favorites in that seem to get us tripped up more often than not, haha. Maybe it really is that we are a team who is too often "looking ahead" - it does seem (anecdotally, at least) that we've got a tendency to get tripped up in the "should wins" directly before the games on the schedule that look like they should be tougher contests.
I said it before, I think when this team plays an "on" game they can beat anyone, but the opposite is true too. I heard Ryan Clark talking about it the other day (and admittedly I think he is kind of a Packer hater lol) but he said something like "This team makes you feel at times like they could walk into any stadium and lose" and unfortunately I think there's some truth to that as well. Like, if we were scheduled against the AFC East this year and played the Jets next week and the Bills in two weeks, it would not at all be surprising if we were already thinking ahead to the Bills game and ended up losing to the Jets...only to turn up and beat the Bills anyhow. So it goes...

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

That's what I was going to say, I thought kind of the opposite too. Whether you call it "pressure" or "expectations" we seem to play much better when we can just be "loose," I guess. Like a couple years ago, I think we were 5-5 or 5-6 and went into Arrowhead and played the Chiefs and beat them pretty handily.

Maybe the Chiefs were looking ahead too?

Fire Andy Reid!

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[OldSchool101]

The way you redeem yourself in the NFL is to go out the next game and surpass the -2.5 odds and win by 5 or 10. That’s the only way you get your respect back.

 

[milani]

True. I think I meant low or high expectations for a Victory, that came out backwards. When we go to play a playoff caliber team our more recent history is we do battle. Either lose a close one or win. When we go play a team deemed as struggling we go in as if it’s ok to score 3 or 6 points across multiple quarters and still come out on top.

Hard to let one’s guard down with Philly. They beat us TWICE last year. They’re as close to a Division opponent as we can get without being in the North.

If Carolina can take it down the field for the game winning drive against us how can the SB champs sputter when the game is on the line?

 

[rmontro]

The oddsmakers expectations were really high, as were the fans, against Carolina. I don't know what the coaches and players expectations were, but I guarantee you after the game most of them said "That's a really good Carolina team".

The most common comment I heard from Panthers fans was "I can't believe we won!".

 

[Poppa San]

So basically, we play to the level of our opponent?

But then it's the "should wins" that we are big favorites in that seem to get us tripped up more often than not, haha. Maybe it really is that we are a team who is too often "looking ahead" - it does seem (anecdotally, at least) that we've got a tendency to get tripped up in the "should wins" directly before the games on the schedule that look like they should be tougher contests.

I firmly believe these are the results of a young team. Too many read the headlines and expect their participation victory. "We show up, they'll cower, another W in the books." Seasoned teams know there are no gimmee games.

 

[milani]

I firmly believe these are the results of a young team. Too many read the headlines and expect their participation victory. "We show up, they'll cower, another W in the books." Seasoned teams know there are no gimmee games.

And this is how great coaches show their prowess. Motivation and focus. Lombardi encountered this with the Packers even when they were young. But he did not wait until the following week. He used halftime. And even as the team matured he understood human nature and he knew how to deal with it.