Dantes 2022 Draft Thread

[Dantés]

I can't believe this guy isn't talked about more. He has some elite inside pass rush moves at times like the ability to swim, bullrush, and more. I also think he has the versatility to be a 3 or 5 tech.

Wonky scheme and didn’t work out. That’s why he isn’t in the conversation more.

 

[wist43]

I can't believe this guy isn't talked about more. He has some elite inside pass rush moves at times like the ability to swim, bullrush, and more. I also think he has the versatility to be a 3 or 5 tech.

I've gone higher on Winfrey over time.

Not having the time to do a lot of homework on these guys though, I wonder if he lacks consistency??

He certainly flashes, and I thought he flashed at the Senior Bowl. Flashed enough to be up there with Wyatt - so, since he's not as highly regarded, is it because of consistency??

 

[wist43]

Wonky scheme and didn’t work out. That’s why he isn’t in the conversation more.

He didn't work out??

He ran at the combine didn't he??

 

[gopkrs]

I can't believe this guy isn't talked about more. He has some elite inside pass rush moves at times like the ability to swim, bullrush, and more. I also think he has the versatility to be a 3 or 5 tech.

I've seen very good things said about him on mocks on you tube.

 

[Dantés]

He didn't work out??

He ran at the combine didn't he??

Yes, but that’s all he did. No jumps and no agilities. Hence, no RAS.

 

[McKnowledge]

I had Pickens ranked #2 just on outside WR skills and physical upside, but after learning about the immaturity issues, I've lowered him.

His stock will depend on how teams feel about their interviews with him. Plus he doesn't like to block, which is all-important in MLF's offense.

I have Pierce #2 behind William's now.

Who or what are your sources about Pickens?

 

[McKnowledge]

I think Green Bay should draft a TE.

I like Jelani Woods...could be a monster in MLF system.

 

[Dantés]

I think Green Bay should draft a TE.

I like Jelani Woods...could be a monster in MLF system.

They should at some point with one of their picks before the 7th.

Trey McBride would be nice in that he could probably help immediately while Tonyan works back and he’s your future at the receiving role (though he can block), which is more valuable.

Woods is a freak show and could be a dangerous Y. But he’s old and you have to factor that.

Later on, I like Daniel Bellinger a lot.

 

[McKnowledge]

They should at some point with one of their picks before the 7th.

Trey McBride would be nice in that he could probably help immediately while Tonyan works back and he’s your future at the receiving role (though he can block), which is more valuable.

Woods is a freak show and could be a dangerous Y. But he’s old and you have to factor that.

Later on, I like Daniel Bellinger a lot.

Trey McBride is nice no doubt and I think he would definitely be a worthy successor to Tonyan if he should leave

McBride is there for the taking at either #53 or #59, but so are other nice players.

With Woods in the 4th round, there is value and the possibility of adding a 6'7" 265lb behemoth at TE.

Can't teach size.

 

[tynimiller]

They should at some point with one of their picks before the 7th.

Trey McBride would be nice in that he could probably help immediately while Tonyan works back and he’s your future at the receiving role (though he can block), which is more valuable.

Woods is a freak show and could be a dangerous Y. But he’s old and you have to factor that.

Later on, I like Daniel Bellinger a lot.

The TE out of North Dakota State is a red zone beast and I think is untapped yet hands wise. If we don’t nab a TE or he goes undrafted I love his projection.

 

[wist43]

Who or what are your sources about Pickens?

Don't remember. I'm sure if you do some searches you can find them.

I do remember one in particular - he was penalized for squirting an opponent in the face with a water bottle after the player had gone out of bounds.

I guess it was a costly penalty, as the quote said it cost Georgia the game.

Can't speak to the veracity of it though.

 

[Schultz]

This is like the game when you were in school and the teacher whispers something to a student and then they whisper it to the next kid and so on until the last kid says it out loud and it is nothing like the original phrase. I do not believe it cost Georgia the game. I can't speak to the velocity of it though.

 

[Dantés]

We understandably fixate on 40 times, especially at a position like WR, but the 10 yard split is equally as informative as to speed, especially acceleration, and acceleration is the most important ability for a deep threat. Here are top 10 yard splits among notable WR's in this class:

1. T. Thornton, BAY: 1.41
2. C. Austin, MEM: 1.44
3. C. Watson, NDSU: 1.45
4. C. Olave, OSU: 1.45
5. A. Pierce, CIN: 1.46
6. S. Moore, WMU: 1.46
7. J. Tolbert, SAU: 1.49
8. K. Shakir, BSU: 1.49
9. K. Philips, UCLA: 1.49
10. G. Pickens, UGA: 1.50
11. G. Wilson, OSU: 1.53
12. J. Dotson, PSU: 1.56
13. T. Burks, ARK: 1.57

Most impressive to me on this list are Watson and Pierce. 1.45 and 1.46 at 208 and 213 respectively is crazy.

Most disappointing is Jahan Dotson. 1.56 isn't a bad number, but he's really light and is supposed to hang his hat on explosive change of direction. I haven't seen that from him when I watch him play, and the test suggests that maybe it isn't really there.

 

[OldSchool101]

I think we will draft a top 5-6 listed WR Round 1

Then a suspicion that we revert to a top 3-4 TE on Day2 (who is a formidable pass catcher). Much of this is dictated by us landing our target WR option on Day1.

Then finish at the position by going back to another WR Rounds 3-4 who possibly also has good Returner experience

 

[Dantés]

A guy I've kind of overlooked in this class is Baylor safety Jalen Pitre.

He's a little undersized (5'11" 198#), but he's a really good athlete. His stats from the last two years are absolutely nuts.

31 (!!!) TFL
4 INT
4 FF
13 PBU

That is absolute insanity to me.

 

[PikeBadger]

They should at some point with one of their picks before the 7th.

Trey McBride would be nice in that he could probably help immediately while Tonyan works back and he’s your future at the receiving role (though he can block), which is more valuable.

Woods is a freak show and could be a dangerous Y. But he’s old and you have to factor that.

Later on, I like Daniel Bellinger a lot.

I would be pleased if we got McBride in the 2nd round. Very pleased.

 

[Schultz]

A guy I've kind of overlooked in this class is Baylor safety Jalen Pitre.

He's a little undersized (5'11" 198#), but he's a really good athlete. His stats from the last two years are absolutely nuts.

31 (!!!) TFL
4 INT
4 FF
13 PBU

That is absolute insanity to me.

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't he a guy who could provide depth at both corner and safety? If they don't get Hill in the 1st round I am all for Pitre in the 2nd round if still there.

 

[Dantés]

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't he a guy who could provide depth at both corner and safety? If they don't get Hill in the 1st round I am all for Pitre in the 2nd round if still there.

I have read that some view him as a nickel/safety prospect. I don’t know about boundary corner.

 

[McKnowledge]

I have read that some view him as a nickel/safety prospect. I don’t know about boundary corner.

Boundary corner is the last thing needed. GB already has 3 legitimately.

 

[McKnowledge]

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't he a guy who could provide depth at both corner and safety? If they don't get Hill in the 1st round I am all for Pitre in the 2nd round if still there.

I agree Pitre is a nice player and would be a great fit.

However, GB could find similar players with similar skills sets in the latter rounds.

 

[ThePerfectBeard]

I definitely think we need to be prepared for us to draft a safety fairly high. We like to play three and the two we currently have are on expiring contracts. This is also a pretty good safety class.

 

[PikeBadger]

The more I look at this draft the more I like the idea of trading back with both 1 st round picks to attempt to get us something that looks similar to this:

2nd - 36
2nd - 45
2nd - 53
2nd - 59
3rd - 72
3rd - 83
3rd - 92
3rd - 98
4th
5th
7th
7th
7th

If we were able to get four top 100 players on both offense and defense in this draft I'd be thrilled.
I'm not a big fan of drafting in the 20's range. I just don't see much difference in physical abilities of players between 15-45.

 

[gopkrs]

The more I look at this draft the more I like the idea of trading back with both 1 st round picks to attempt to get us something that looks similar to this:

2nd - 36
2nd - 45
2nd - 53
2nd - 59
3rd - 72
3rd - 83
3rd - 92
3rd - 98
4th
5th
7th
7th
7th

If we were able to get four top 100 players on both offense and defense in this draft I'd be thrilled.
I'm not a big fan of drafting in the 20's range. I just don't see much difference in physical abilities of players between 15-45.

I don't think that is enough for trading away your first round picks.

 

[Poppa San]

I don't think that is enough for trading away your first round picks.

Not too far off. Probably could get some day 3 added. According to the Walter football chart, #22 should warrant a mid 30's & upper 60's. Early 2 & 3. #28 is worth a mid 40's and 70's area. Mid 2nd and mid 3rd.

 

[gopkrs]

Not too far off. Probably could get some day 3 added. According to the Walter football chart, #22 should warrant a mid 30's & upper 60's. Early 2 & 3. #28 is worth a mid 40's and 70's area. Mid 2nd and mid 3rd.

I am not a great believer in those charts. Theoretically, you could just keep trading down until all you have are 7th round picks. I think there is a higher value on the 1st round picks. Especially at wide receiver this year for the top ones.