Badgers Football 2025-2026

[Voyageur]

Follow the money is the best analysis of how you get the high 4-star and 5-star athletes into the fold. But a good program which a little less money, a solid coaching staff that can teach players how to reach the next level, and give those 3-star and 4-star athletes more opportunities can also be a player at the highest level. To do that, you need to have coaches that recruit and can relate to the people who donate into NIL.

My son is about to venture into some NIL agreements with Badger athletes which I won't discuss, at my urging. They won't get rich from it, but they will be able to pick up some money through agreements with him. He's been in contact with the NIL people at the University of Wisconsin and is putting his plan together with my help. At this point, there are decisions to be made. It's all about gauging what the response will be for each individual sport. He'd like to cover as many sports as possible and work directly with the athletes themselves or their agents, hoping to get money into the hands of those who aren't getting large national exposure deals.

So, when we talk about what and won't work, rest assured we have been working towards being a help in resolving issues not complaining about them.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Follow the money is the best analysis of how you get the high 4-star and 5-star athletes into the fold. But a good program which a little less money, a solid coaching staff that can teach players how to reach the next level, and give those 3-star and 4-star athletes more opportunities can also be a player at the highest level. To do that, you need to have coaches that recruit and can relate to the people who donate into NIL.

My son is about to venture into some NIL agreements with Badger athletes which I won't discuss, at my urging. They won't get rich from it, but they will be able to pick up some money through agreements with him. He's been in contact with the NIL people at the University of Wisconsin and is putting his plan together with my help. At this point, there are decisions to be made. It's all about gauging what the response will be for each individual sport. He'd like to cover as many sports as possible and work directly with the athletes themselves or their agents, hoping to get money into the hands of those who aren't getting large national exposure deals.

So, when we talk about what and won't work, rest assured we have been working towards being a help in resolving issues not complaining about them.

Now once you GET them to Wisconsin, how do you KEEP them in Wisconsin?

That isn't so difficult in a successful program like Women's Hockey and Volleyball. 2 programs that quite honestly, if I had a spare million laying around, I would donate it to way before I would give it to Football.

Anyway, I don't mean to be the squeaky wheel when it comes to Badger Football However, I do think that they have fallen into a deep hole, and one that due to the TP and NIL, is a much deeper and full of quicksand, than the one they fell into before Barry Alverez took over. How do they get out? Great coaching, successful seasons, lots of NIL money and a TP that is mainly pointed in their direction, as opposed to going away from them.

 

[Thirteen Below]

Someone in the portal deciding between OSU and Wisconsin? The question answers itself, it's so obvious.

Is it, though?

If an excellent lineman from DC Everest has to choose between being arguably one of the 5 best offensive linemen at Wisconsin or one of 10 or 15 guys fighting for a starting spot in Columbus, does that change the prioritization?

I'm not saying it's that simple, but just wondering if that kind of calculus might be a factor. If you want to play pro ball, are you better off being one of many at a top school, or one of the few at a lesser but still quite respectable program?

 

[Voyageur]

Is it, though?

If an excellent lineman from DC Everest has to choose between being arguably one of the 5 best offensive linemen at Wisconsin or one of 10 or 15 guys fighting for a starting spot in Columbus, does that change the prioritization?

I'm not saying it's that simple, but just wondering if that kind of calculus might be a factor. If you want to play pro ball, are you better off being one of many at a top school, or one of the few at a lesser but still quite respectable program?

Reality also shows that the big NIL deals are not through the schools, they're through private contracts with players, and are with major corporations, not on a local level. An offensive lineman at Ohio State in that 10-15 deep basis won't make any more NIL money than the kid going to Wisconsin and the kid at Wisconsin has the fact that he can get more local exposure and local NIL deals as well.

As an example, Arch Manning is making about $6.8 mill in NIL this year. Wisconsin can't compete with that. That's what we keep hearing. Someone has to pay that money out and there are no people able to do it. Therefore, why bother trying at Wisconsin you can't get that kind of talent.

That whole thing is totally wrong. None of it is true. He is making $6.8 mill but not one nickel is coming from the school or the collective with the school. Every nickel of it is coming from national level endorsements. He wouldn't even take on an NIL deal for a $100k car because that's half of what he wants to put his name on anything.

The big NIL money goes to 4 and 5-star athletes who have huge name recognition and play skill positions that will continuously put their name in front of the public. The guy playing on the offensive line and most other non-high-profile positions can make more at Wisconsin than Ohio State because they can get the local collective money, school money, and also get NIL gigs just like my son intends doing. The plan is to get players in sports that Wisconsin fans will hold dear to the culture of the state and school. Ambassadors of what Wisconsin should represent.

People talk a lot about NIL but all they see is the top of the pile of information. I've been fortunate enough to see into the depth of it through friends involved from day one at the University of Texas, and with insights into a lot of other programs including Wisconsin.

With the way NIL is structured, and how it can be manipulated to a school's advantage, it starts with a program that develops players that can move up to the next level. Wisconsin knew how to do that, and they got the best offensive linemen as a group of anyone in the US, and their stable of running backs has been great because they too, were moving up. If you look at all the positions where Wisconsin excelled, they helped kids move up.

Too many people believe that if a kid does well at Wisconsin, he's going to leave to attend a program with more NIL money. That's bogus. Most of the players that leave a program do so because they want to get more playing time or want to play differently and have coaches that can teach them to get to the next level. If Wisconsin has coaches that can help them get to that next level, we'll see them transferring in for even less NIL money than they were getting.

As I look around to all the players that left Wisconsin for "greener pastures," I don't see too many of them that have done better. Most have floundered. The fact is, they should have stayed the course and gotten better through hard work.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Is it, though?

If an excellent lineman from DC Everest has to choose between being arguably one of the 5 best offensive linemen at Wisconsin or one of 10 or 15 guys fighting for a starting spot in Columbus, does that change the prioritization?

I'm not saying it's that simple, but just wondering if that kind of calculus might be a factor. If you want to play pro ball, are you better off being one of many at a top school, or one of the few at a lesser but still quite respectable program?

Good questions 13. We all see great NFL players who don't come from the Big Ten, SEC, or PAC 12, to name just a few. I think Davante Adams played at Fresno State (or was that Love).

And there are a LOT of Badgers playing at a high level in the NFL. I still think the most promising guys will go to a big program, and that is made worse, especially by the portal.

 

[Heyjoe4]

No. It won't solve it instantly. But you need to start somewhere and bringing in Joe Yahoo from Podunk U is not going to get it started. It's going to take a process of rebuilding trust in the Badger culture. It's not going to matter if they don't get it right this time. They may never recover because Wisconsin is a hard sell, not an easy one to boosters. The days of the boozing boosters who got giddy by being able to eat a rubber chicken dinner sitting next to some player is long gone.

Hey, I graduated from Podunk U. Had a blast!

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

An offensive lineman at Ohio State in that 10-15 deep basis won't make any more NIL money than the kid going to Wisconsin and the kid at Wisconsin has the fact that he can get more local exposure and local NIL deals as well.

I don't think the 10-15 deep guys are what is at issue here. It is the top players, the ones that help propel your team to the top 10 in the country. The top players that you either have to recruit out of high school or the ones on your current team, that you have to keep from transferring out. Or the top players you poach from other teams.

I know we slightly disagree on this topic and maybe I am taking too negative of a viewpoint, but I also think we are just climbing the momentum hill on NIL and TP issues, if things don't change. On the flip side, I think you are looking too far back, before NIL and TP changed the landscape of college Sports.

Just a simple look at the TP in a sport that I know you follow. Would Grace Egan and Mimi Colyer be Badgers if the Transfer Portal didn't exist? Both were the best players from their perspective programs, both saw a team that they would have a chance to win a NCAA Title with.

As far as NIL money. Whether it is coming directly from the school or a 2nd source, it exists. I would love to know how much outside money was funneled into the Ohio State Football team this season. Dollars to donuts it far exceeded what the Badger program received.

So yes, we agree, the NIL program doesn't necessarily change the competitive landscape for the mid to bottom tier players, but it sure changes the top tier players. If any of those mid tier players develop into top tier players in a middling program, do you think they will refuse an offer, that includes NIL money and/or a chance to win a National title, to transfer to a top school?

Maybe my brain is thinking too far ahead, but logic tells me that as @Heyjoe4 correctly pointed out, college sports are moving towards what we see in Major League Baseball, where the top teams with a lot of money, get the best players.

 

[PikeBadger]

34-0. Never any semblance of being in the game. That should do it. The question is whether McIntosh is paralyzed by uncertainty and fear. Penn State and Arkansas have cut the cord already, can McIntosh?
This season reminds me of the 1968 Badger team. Hapless in every way.

 

[milani]

34-0. Never any semblance of being in the game. That should do it. The question is whether McIntosh is paralyzed by uncertainty and fear. Penn State and Arkansas have cut the cord already, can McIntosh?
This season reminds me of the 1968 Badger team. Hapless in every way.

I guess 34-0 is a tad better than 37-0. Next week it could be as low as 31-0.

 

[Voyageur]

I keep hearing how the Badgers can't afford to fire Fickell because he'll get $25 mill in a buyout. Actually, they can pay him the salary each year until the contract length ends.

The truth is they can't afford to keep him. Ticket sales are dropping. If the average price of a ticket is $150 and they end up with 20,000 vacant seats at a game that's $3,000,000 in gross ticket revenue lost and doesn't include the loss in monies from concessions.

Middle-Tennessee got $1.2 mill for showing up. The amount of money issued to each visiting team varies according to various issues. No need to go into it but rivalries and importance of the game are part of the picture.

Anyhow, over a 3-year period of time, Fickell staying in Madison could end up costing the Badgers more in lost revenue and hurt the revenue that's normally spent in the city over the weekend. That $8 mill a year could end up being peanuts.

It's time to pull the plug. This whole thing is a joke.

 

[Thirteen Below]

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34-0. Never any semblance of being in the game. That should do it. The question is whether McIntosh is paralyzed by uncertainty and fear. Penn State and Arkansas have cut the cord already, can McIntosh?

I was thinking that they may wait until after next week's beatdown in Oregon, when they have a bye. But they can't wait much longer than that; this is completely out of hand. At this point, he's lost both the fans and the players. 58,000 fans in the stands today....

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[Voyageur]

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I was thinking that they may wait until after next week's beatdown in Oregon, when they have a bye. But they can't wait much longer than that; this is completely out of hand. At this point, he's lost both the fans and the players. 58,000 fans in the stands today....

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I believe that the fact that the attendance is now down over 20,000 per home game they can realize that the loss of ticket & concession revenue for each home game now exceeds the cost of paying of the Fickell contract and cutting their losses. Mnookin will be the one that will probably finally say that this experiment in massive culture change in football was a horrible mistake, and she may well be the one who determines which candidate or candidates are acceptable if McIntosh brings their names up.

I still believe that they will bring Jimmy Leonhard back as the head coach, and he'll bring a tremendous program with the defense, and he'll tap someone from the Wisconsin past to work with the offense if he can find the right person. I believe there are guys out there who could do the job and not only return the team to the levels that Chryst had but elevate it. He'd also be one of the people that you can count on filling the stands every time they take the field at home.

 

[weeds]

Hey, I graduated from Podunk U. Had a blast!

...and I'm a proud alumni of Whatzamatta U. So, I reading that you guys didn't think that at 34-0, the game wasn't as close as it first appears?

 

[Heyjoe4]

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I was thinking that they may wait until after next week's beatdown in Oregon, when they have a bye. But they can't wait much longer than that; this is completely out of hand. At this point, he's lost both the fans and the players. 58,000 fans in the stands today....

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I'm very surprised to hear that Camp Randall isn't sold out for every Badger home game. Then again, the way they've been playing since Fickell arrived gives plenty of cause to do something else on a nice Saturday in October.

This is pathetic.

 

[PikeBadger]

I guess 34-0 is a tad better than 37-0. Next week it could be as low as 31-0.

Oregon will beat their brains out

 

[Firethorn1001]

Im surprised 58k were there.

 

[Voyageur]

I'm very surprised to hear that Camp Randall isn't sold out for every Badger home game. Then again, the way they've been playing since Fickell arrived gives plenty of cause to do something else on a nice Saturday in October.

This is pathetic.

Mnookin is going to have to look at lost revenue to determine which is cheaper. Dumping Fickell and eating the contract but getting the seats filled again, or continue watching them empty and hope you can get the fan base back without waiting 10 years to have it happen.

I don't know what ticket prices are, but let's say that across the board it's $125 average. Lose 20,000 attendance, that's $2,500,000 per game average, and with 8 home games, that's a total of $10,000,000 lost revenue and then there's the concession losses as well.

We shouldn't forget that there's also the "donation" to get seats which could disappear in a heartbeat.

Time for some real tough decisions in Madison.

 

[Voyageur]

Oregon will beat their brains out

I wonder if getting beat unconscious by Oregon with another shutout will make the decision easy for them. If they get smoked again like they have been, and they do nothing, there are going to be leadership questions above the coaching level I'm afraid.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Fitting, the Badgers seem to be laying plenty of them every SaTURDay

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[Thirteen Below]

Good questions 13. We all see great NFL players who don't come from the Big Ten, SEC, or PAC 12, to name just a few. I think Davante Adams played at Fresno State (or was that Love).

And there are a LOT of Badgers playing at a high level in the NFL. I still think the most promising guys will go to a big program, and that is made worse, especially by the portal.

Out of curiosity, I asked AI which college programs have the most players currently in the NFL. I think I was a little surprised at some of them...

1. Alabama – 77 active NFL players
2. LSU – 64 active NFL players
3. Georgia – 71 active NFL players
4. Ohio State – 71 active NFL players
5. Michigan – 65 active NFL players
6. Notre Dame – 56 active NFL players
7. Texas – 54 active NFL players
8. Penn State – 51 active NFL players
9. Oregon – 47 active NFL players
10. Florida State – Approximately 45 active NFL players
11. Auburn – 38 active NFL players
12. USC – 37 active NFL players
13. UCLA – 37 active NFL players
14. Miami – 36 active NFL players
15. Ole Miss – 35 active NFL players
16. Wisconsin – 34 active NFL players
17. Texas A&M – 33 active NFL players
18. Stanford – 30 active NFL players
19. Florida – Around 29-30 active NFL players
20. Washington – Around 28-30 active NFL players

Here is how the top 20 colleges' NFL player counts have changed since 2015 to 2025:

• Alabama saw a substantial increase from about 34 players in 2015 to 77 in 2025, reflecting its rise to dominance in college football over the past decade.
• LSU increased from approximately 37 players to 64, benefiting from national championships and high-profile recruits.
• Georgia rose from around 35 players in 2015 to 61 in 2025, with back-to-back national titles fueling this growth.
• Ohio State grew from roughly 27 players to 64, reflecting consistent NFL player production.
• Michigan's count increased significantly from about 24 to 63, highlighted by recent high-profile NFL talent.
• Notre Dame remained relatively stable but with growth, moving from around 26 to 51 players.
• Texas grew slightly from about 24 to 54 players.
• Penn State increased steadily from about 24 to 49 players.
• Oregon rose from about 28 to 47 players.
• Florida State dropped slightly from about 33 in 2015 to about 20 in 2025, showing some program fluctuations.
• Auburn increased moderately from roughly 29 to 38 players.
• USC decreased somewhat from about 33 to 26 players.
• UCLA had about 24 in 2015 and remains strong near 37 players.
• Miami stayed stable with about 36 players.
• Ole Miss held steady at around 20-35 players.
• Wisconsin rose from about 24 to 34 players.
• Texas A&M increased from 17 to around 33 players.
• Stanford remained steady in the 25-30 player range.
• Florida saw some decline from about 31 to around 29-30.
• Washington declined slightly from about 25 to around 28-30.

It will be interesting to check again down the road and see where the Badgers place between 2025 and 2030. I suspect the trend will have reversed.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Oregon will beat their brains out

They play Oregon next Saturday? OMG they should all call in sick.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Out of curiosity, I asked AI which college programs have the most players currently in the NFL. I think I was a little surprised at some of them...

1. Alabama – 77 active NFL players
2. LSU – 64 active NFL players
3. Georgia – 71 active NFL players
4. Ohio State – 71 active NFL players
5. Michigan – 65 active NFL players
6. Notre Dame – 56 active NFL players
7. Texas – 54 active NFL players
8. Penn State – 51 active NFL players
9. Oregon – 47 active NFL players
10. Florida State – Approximately 45 active NFL players
11. Auburn – 38 active NFL players
12. USC – 37 active NFL players
13. UCLA – 37 active NFL players
14. Miami – 36 active NFL players
15. Ole Miss – 35 active NFL players
16. Wisconsin – 34 active NFL players
17. Texas A&M – 33 active NFL players
18. Stanford – 30 active NFL players
19. Florida – Around 29-30 active NFL players
20. Washington – Around 28-30 active NFL players

Here is how the top 20 colleges' NFL player counts have changed since 2015 to 2025:

• Alabama saw a substantial increase from about 34 players in 2015 to 77 in 2025, reflecting its rise to dominance in college football over the past decade.
• LSU increased from approximately 37 players to 64, benefiting from national championships and high-profile recruits.
• Georgia rose from around 35 players in 2015 to 61 in 2025, with back-to-back national titles fueling this growth.
• Ohio State grew from roughly 27 players to 64, reflecting consistent NFL player production.
• Michigan's count increased significantly from about 24 to 63, highlighted by recent high-profile NFL talent.
• Notre Dame remained relatively stable but with growth, moving from around 26 to 51 players.
• Texas grew slightly from about 24 to 54 players.
• Penn State increased steadily from about 24 to 49 players.
• Oregon rose from about 28 to 47 players.
• Florida State dropped slightly from about 33 in 2015 to about 20 in 2025, showing some program fluctuations.
• Auburn increased moderately from roughly 29 to 38 players.
• USC decreased somewhat from about 33 to 26 players.
• UCLA had about 24 in 2015 and remains strong near 37 players.
• Miami stayed stable with about 36 players.
• Ole Miss held steady at around 20-35 players.
• Wisconsin rose from about 24 to 34 players.
• Texas A&M increased from 17 to around 33 players.
• Stanford remained steady in the 25-30 player range.
• Florida saw some decline from about 31 to around 29-30.
• Washington declined slightly from about 25 to around 28-30.

It will be interesting to check again down the road and see where the Badgers place between 2025 and 2030. I suspect the trend will have reversed.

Thanks 13. I've noticed during player introductions, like SNF, that a lot of guys attended UW. I can't say I'm surprised that it's 34 who are currently in the NFL, but in all honesty, I didn't have any idea.

Alabama, LSU, Georgia, OSU the top 4 - looks a lot like the candidates that dominated the four-team CFB.

I'm a little surprised by Stanford's presence with Berkeley (Cal) absent. I would have thought it would be opposite. Penn State and Michigan are higher on the list than I expected.

Thanks for doing this 13! Very interesting.

 

[PikeBadger]

Out of curiosity, I asked AI which college programs have the most players currently in the NFL. I think I was a little surprised at some of them...

1. Alabama – 77 active NFL players
2. LSU – 64 active NFL players
3. Georgia – 71 active NFL players
4. Ohio State – 71 active NFL players
5. Michigan – 65 active NFL players
6. Notre Dame – 56 active NFL players
7. Texas – 54 active NFL players
8. Penn State – 51 active NFL players
9. Oregon – 47 active NFL players
10. Florida State – Approximately 45 active NFL players
11. Auburn – 38 active NFL players
12. USC – 37 active NFL players
13. UCLA – 37 active NFL players
14. Miami – 36 active NFL players
15. Ole Miss – 35 active NFL players
16. Wisconsin – 34 active NFL players
17. Texas A&M – 33 active NFL players
18. Stanford – 30 active NFL players
19. Florida – Around 29-30 active NFL players
20. Washington – Around 28-30 active NFL players

Here is how the top 20 colleges' NFL player counts have changed since 2015 to 2025:

• Alabama saw a substantial increase from about 34 players in 2015 to 77 in 2025, reflecting its rise to dominance in college football over the past decade.
• LSU increased from approximately 37 players to 64, benefiting from national championships and high-profile recruits.
• Georgia rose from around 35 players in 2015 to 61 in 2025, with back-to-back national titles fueling this growth.
• Ohio State grew from roughly 27 players to 64, reflecting consistent NFL player production.
• Michigan's count increased significantly from about 24 to 63, highlighted by recent high-profile NFL talent.
• Notre Dame remained relatively stable but with growth, moving from around 26 to 51 players.
• Texas grew slightly from about 24 to 54 players.
• Penn State increased steadily from about 24 to 49 players.
• Oregon rose from about 28 to 47 players.
• Florida State dropped slightly from about 33 in 2015 to about 20 in 2025, showing some program fluctuations.
• Auburn increased moderately from roughly 29 to 38 players.
• USC decreased somewhat from about 33 to 26 players.
• UCLA had about 24 in 2015 and remains strong near 37 players.
• Miami stayed stable with about 36 players.
• Ole Miss held steady at around 20-35 players.
• Wisconsin rose from about 24 to 34 players.
• Texas A&M increased from 17 to around 33 players.
• Stanford remained steady in the 25-30 player range.
• Florida saw some decline from about 31 to around 29-30.
• Washington declined slightly from about 25 to around 28-30.

It will be interesting to check again down the road and see where the Badgers place between 2025 and 2030. I suspect the trend will have reversed.

Almost none of those were recruited or played under Fickell. This current coaching staff does not effectively coach players up and improve their skills. Every team in the BiG is getting better coaching than Wisconsin

 

[PikeBadger]

Out of curiosity, I asked AI which college programs have the most players currently in the NFL. I think I was a little surprised at some of them...

1. Alabama – 77 active NFL players
2. LSU – 64 active NFL players
3. Georgia – 71 active NFL players
4. Ohio State – 71 active NFL players
5. Michigan – 65 active NFL players
6. Notre Dame – 56 active NFL players
7. Texas – 54 active NFL players
8. Penn State – 51 active NFL players
9. Oregon – 47 active NFL players
10. Florida State – Approximately 45 active NFL players
11. Auburn – 38 active NFL players
12. USC – 37 active NFL players
13. UCLA – 37 active NFL players
14. Miami – 36 active NFL players
15. Ole Miss – 35 active NFL players
16. Wisconsin – 34 active NFL players
17. Texas A&M – 33 active NFL players
18. Stanford – 30 active NFL players
19. Florida – Around 29-30 active NFL players
20. Washington – Around 28-30 active NFL players

Here is how the top 20 colleges' NFL player counts have changed since 2015 to 2025:

• Alabama saw a substantial increase from about 34 players in 2015 to 77 in 2025, reflecting its rise to dominance in college football over the past decade.
• LSU increased from approximately 37 players to 64, benefiting from national championships and high-profile recruits.
• Georgia rose from around 35 players in 2015 to 61 in 2025, with back-to-back national titles fueling this growth.
• Ohio State grew from roughly 27 players to 64, reflecting consistent NFL player production.
• Michigan's count increased significantly from about 24 to 63, highlighted by recent high-profile NFL talent.
• Notre Dame remained relatively stable but with growth, moving from around 26 to 51 players.
• Texas grew slightly from about 24 to 54 players.
• Penn State increased steadily from about 24 to 49 players.
• Oregon rose from about 28 to 47 players.
• Florida State dropped slightly from about 33 in 2015 to about 20 in 2025, showing some program fluctuations.
• Auburn increased moderately from roughly 29 to 38 players.
• USC decreased somewhat from about 33 to 26 players.
• UCLA had about 24 in 2015 and remains strong near 37 players.
• Miami stayed stable with about 36 players.
• Ole Miss held steady at around 20-35 players.
• Wisconsin rose from about 24 to 34 players.
• Texas A&M increased from 17 to around 33 players.
• Stanford remained steady in the 25-30 player range.
• Florida saw some decline from about 31 to around 29-30.
• Washington declined slightly from about 25 to around 28-30.

It will be interesting to check again down the road and see where the Badgers place between 2025 and 2030. I suspect the trend will have reversed.

Chryst's staff was very good at identifying and coaching up in-state players especially. Those kids were the cornerstone of the team every single year.

PS - ask around the NFL about Wisconsin players that were brought up under Chryst's staff about their viability as players and teammates.

 

[PikeBadger]

I wonder if getting beat unconscious by Oregon with another shutout will make the decision easy for them. If they get smoked again like they have been, and they do nothing, there are going to be leadership questions above the coaching level I'm afraid.

I figured a month ago that 3 boat racings would do it. Apparently I'm wrong. Now I'm hoping it doesn't take more than 4 to pull the plug on this disastrous nightmare. If it does, Mc Intosh needs to get the guillotine as well.