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Hmmm, where is Leonhard now? Fickell is done, mostly due to things he doesn't control - the portal and NIL.

Whoever coaches the Badgers next will have the same problems. Sorry to be this negative, but what is the path to getting Wisconsin back to playing competitive football? I just can't see it.

Leonhard is currently the defensive pass game coordinator and assistant head coach for the Broncos. He isn't going to want to touch this program. Honestly, I doubt any coaches that are already successful elsewhere will. Which brings me to your second observation/question and it is a doozy. Since the TP and NIL both feed off of each other and are most likely influenced quite a bit by the success of a program, coming back from this won't be easy and it will probably take a very long time. Gone are the days where you suddenly find yourself with a very talented group of freshman and sophomores and you have a 3-4 window of success. Why? Because those guys will now find more money and more exposure in a top 10 team and leave your program.

Loyalty and developmental prosperity are all but gone in College Football. They have been replaced by greed, panhandling (NIL money) and poaching (TP). Finding a coach to take over the program is probably the least of the Badger worries, they are going to need a whole bunch of new players just for 2026, because at tge end of this season, there will probably be a mass exodus through the Transfer Portal.
 
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Leonhard is currently the defensive pass game coordinator and assistant head coach for the Broncos. He isn't going to want to touch this program. Honestly, I doubt any coaches that are already successful elsewhere will. Which brings me to your second observation/question and it is a doozy. Since the TP and NIL both feed off of each other and are most likely influenced quite a bit by the success of a program, coming back from this won't be easy and it will probably take a very long time. Gone are the days where you suddenly find yourself with a very talent group of freshman and sophomores and you have a 3-4 window of success. Why? Because those guys will now find more money and more exposure in a top 10 team.

Loyalty and developmental prosperity are all but gone in College Football. They have been replaced by greed, panhandling (NIL money) and poaching (TP). Finding a coach to take over the program is probably the least of the Badger worries, they are going to need a whole bunch of new players, after there is an end of the season mass exodus through the Transfer Portal.
If a team with certain expectations lost 37-0 at home to an opponent such as Iowa in the NFL per se, it probably results in an organizational change very quickly unless your season had been good up until them.
 

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If a team with certain expectations lost 37-0 at home to an opponent such as Iowa in the NFL per se, it probably results in an organizational change very quickly unless your season had been good up until them.
I think the only reason that Fickell hasn't been fired, is his guaranteed money. Silly thing is, the longer McIntosh and the UW sit on their hands, the further this program falls into a deep, dark void. Having that occur will end up costing far more than the cost to buy out Fickell's contract.
 
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Hmmm, where is Leonhard now? Fickell is done, mostly due to things he doesn't control - the portal and NIL.

Whoever coaches the Badgers next will have the same problems. Sorry to be this negative, but what is the path to getting Wisconsin back to playing competitive football? I just can't see it.
Jim Leonhard is working with the Broncos and has turned down DC jobs. I think he may see the handwriting on the wall in Wisconsin and is waiting to see what happens. I have this sneaking suspicion there have been some "back-room discussions" as to him coming back if Fickell failed to deliver this year. But, that's just some thinking outside the box.

Jim is a Badger through and through. He loves that program. The only sticking point is that McIntosh didn't offer him the job when he gave Fickell all that money. The question is if McIntosh can bury his pride to ask Jim to come back and if Jim is in a forgiving mood or he won't budge with McIntosh in the house.
 

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Jim Leonhard is working with the Broncos and has turned down DC jobs. I think he may see the handwriting on the wall in Wisconsin and is waiting to see what happens. I have this sneaking suspicion there have been some "back-room discussions" as to him coming back if Fickell failed to deliver this year. But, that's just some thinking outside the box.

Jim is a Badger through and through. He loves that program. The only sticking point is that McIntosh didn't offer him the job when he gave Fickell all that money. The question is if McIntosh can bury his pride to ask Jim to come back and if Jim is in a forgiving mood or he won't budge with McIntosh in the house.

I love Jim Leonhard, but he would be crazy to come back to Wisconsin right now. The program is in a total state of disrepair and even a home town hero like Jim couldn't right the ship.

Honestly, what I see as the Badgers best move right now, let Fickell ride out the season or fire him and let an assistant run it until the end of the season. Then you find a successful smaller school coach, that has a lot of talented underclassmen that would follow their coach. Sign the coach, and open up the portal for his players.
 
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I love Jim Leonhard, but he would be crazy to come back to Wisconsin right now. The program is in a total state of disrepair and even a home town hero like Jim couldn't right the ship.

Honestly, what I see as the Badgers best move right now, let Fickell ride out the season or fire him and let an assistant run it until the end of the season. Then you find a successful smaller school coach, that has a lot of talented underclassmen that would follow their coach. Sign the coach, and open up the portal for his players.
If you don't try to salvage the support from outside the program by bringing in someone they like you'll never rebuild the program. It could end up with the Badgers being the Big 10 doormat for decades.

I think Jim would come back with the right enticement of outside support to help rebuild the program quickly. He could do it because of his reputation in the midwest.
 

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Jim Leonhard is working with the Broncos and has turned down DC jobs. I think he may see the handwriting on the wall in Wisconsin and is waiting to see what happens. I have this sneaking suspicion there have been some "back-room discussions" as to him coming back if Fickell failed to deliver this year. But, that's just some thinking outside the box.

Jim is a Badger through and through. He loves that program. The only sticking point is that McIntosh didn't offer him the job when he gave Fickell all that money. The question is if McIntosh can bury his pride to ask Jim to come back and if Jim is in a forgiving mood or he won't budge with McIntosh in the house.
If I were Leonhard, I'd stay away from the Badgers and stick with the Broncos. It doesn't matter who coaches at WI, the same problem with the portal, NIL, and playing in a small market remain.

I like Jim Leonhard a lot, as I think all of us do. I wouldn't want him in a position where he can't win, and I'm pretty sure he sees that.

So there's no need for WI to be paying a HC the money Fickell is getting.
 

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If I were Leonhard, I'd stay away from the Badgers and stick with the Broncos. It doesn't matter who coaches at WI, the same problem with the portal, NIL, and playing in a small market remain.
Absolutely. Schools like Wisconsin and Indiana will never be able to be in the top tier of football. :roflmao:
 
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Absolutely. Schools like Wisconsin and Indiana will never be able to be in the top tier of football. :roflmao:
At one time I might of agreed but right now Indiana is ranked #3 in the nation. It's all back to recruiting, system, ability to bring kids to the next level, and some NIL money to make them happy.

Outside NIL donations at Indiana are around $13 mill and Wisconsin is at about $3 mill which is down by over half. It was between $6 & 7 mill despite Chryst's failure to extend his recruiting like he should. Instead of building it up with good will from Fickell, his approach was not as warm and it's tanked. I believe Leonhard could get that back up to $6 or $7 mill in two years and start to build on it and get it into the $12 to $13 mill range in 6. Then there's the farm kids that Wisconsin has always turned into NFL linemen who are going elsewhere. We want them back. Leonhard would have them chained to Camp Randall stadium by the time they were 14 years old. His showing up at high schools, talking to kids, and being part of it all, one of the biggest recruiting jobs you'd ever see. It would win them back.

Imagine getting Darrel Bevel to come back to Wisconsin as the OC, and Joe Thomas as the offensive line coach. From what I've heard, Melvin Gordon has solid potential as a backfield coach. Think in terms of Al Toon as a WR coach, maybe Nick Toon, or Chris Chambers.

On defense Jimmy could find the best minds in the game to man the spots in my opinion. He knows guys he played with and against, who are astute player/coach types.

I Realize this sounds kind of out there, but the reality is, Fickell is not going to get it done and turning it over to someone else who's going to "change the culture," and put us in another tailspin is not going to work. It's going to make the program even worse than it is now, and if that happens, we can expect a return to the days where winning two games a year were possible only because we played Marquette and some smaller schools, often DII level, to insure they got them.
 

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At one time I might of agreed but right now Indiana is ranked #3 in the nation. It's all back to recruiting, system, ability to bring kids to the next level, and some NIL money to make them happy.

Outside NIL donations at Indiana are around $13 mill and Wisconsin is at about $3 mill which is down by over half. It was between $6 & 7 mill despite Chryst's failure to extend his recruiting like he should. Instead of building it up with good will from Fickell, his approach was not as warm and it's tanked. I believe Leonhard could get that back up to $6 or $7 mill in two years and start to build on it and get it into the $12 to $13 mill range in 6. Then there's the farm kids that Wisconsin has always turned into NFL linemen who are going elsewhere. We want them back. Leonhard would have them chained to Camp Randall stadium by the time they were 14 years old. His showing up at high schools, talking to kids, and being part of it all, one of the biggest recruiting jobs you'd ever see. It would win them back.

Imagine getting Darrel Bevel to come back to Wisconsin as the OC, and Joe Thomas as the offensive line coach. From what I've heard, Melvin Gordon has solid potential as a backfield coach. Think in terms of Al Toon as a WR coach, maybe Nick Toon, or Chris Chambers.

On defense Jimmy could find the best minds in the game to man the spots in my opinion. He knows guys he played with and against, who are astute player/coach types.

I Realize this sounds kind of out there, but the reality is, Fickell is not going to get it done and turning it over to someone else who's going to "change the culture," and put us in another tailspin is not going to work. It's going to make the program even worse than it is now, and if that happens, we can expect a return to the days where winning two games a year were possible only because we played Marquette and some smaller schools, often DII level, to insure they got them.
Watching the Hoosiers go out to Oregon and dismantle the Ducks was stunning. They could easily be in the running for the national championship game.
 
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All the Jim Leonhard talk reminds me of how everyone talked about Fickell: "He's going to change everything."
I'm afraid I saw Fickell as a solid choice. His track record at Cincinnati was based on amazing recruiting, and community communications. He did a great job. I overlooked the "home town" feel of the situation. Here's the chronology to think about and how it related to his success with the Bearcats.

Luke was a defensive stalwart as a player for Ohio State University in his playing days. I believe he played about 50 games for them. He was respected as a person and player. Overlooked was the fact he was born and raised in Columbus, Ohio. He had OSU written all over him the day he was delivered at the hospital. Not only did he play football but he was a 3-time state champion in wrestling, making his name one of perseverance. Incidentally, he had the longest games played streak in OSU history during his playing days in football.

Following his playing days, Fickell was an OSU assistant coach for 15 years and served under two highly successful coaches. Jim Tressel and Urban Meyers. Both won National Championships, and Fickell was part of it.

When Fickell left to take over the Cincinnati program he was already part of the fabric of college football in the entire area and having been a key member of the OSU recruiting program, he maintained those personal connections into areas and schools where dynamic football players destined for the college ranks. He tapped into that experience and connections that he'd built essentially over a 24-year period of time from the day he started high school. He was the "hometown boy" when it came to dropping in on families to recruit their sons. He was legend. His first year at Cincinnati wasn't good, but it was during that first year that he started accumulating the players that he'd been recruiting already for OSU and since so many young athletes become attached to the coaches that recruited them, they flipped to Cincy and he began a fantastic string of wins making it into the playoffs for the Natty.

The Badger hierarchy saw success. Quick and efficient. Fans, including myself saw the same thing. We just didn't take the time to look at "why" Fickell succeeded in Cincy. What I've stated above answers that question. We saw someone who could come in, slap a label on it and work magic. I'd be willing to guess that even Luke thought it would be that easy for him because it was back in Ohio.

When he moved to Madison, he came in kind of arrogant, talking about culture change. That seems to be a big issue everywhere today. Change the culture. Well, the culture he built in Cincy was the culture he lived with at OSU, and it worked because it was the regional culture. He, along with all of us, failed to realize that saying that you were going to change the culture in Madison meant abandoning the automatic recruiting inroads you had by suggesting that all those coaches and active alumni members were really out of touch with reality and needed to step aside and he'd "show them how it's done." He alienated people faster than anyone could believe. He started telling the NIL people "How he wanted it done," and guess what? It backfired. You don't tell people even in a nice way that they don't know what they're doing, when they've worked their tails off to do a good job. Recruiting was a big issue. Chryst did not use the recruiting money wisely even though it wasn't nearly as high a budget as the better Big 10 schools had to use. Still, they won with guys like Jim Leonhard as an assistant because they held onto that "hometown kids" regional mentality and brought them in to stock the shelves. We didn't see that worked, which was dumb.

If you want the program back, return to the roots of what was the 20+ years success they had where the Badgers built a regional recruiting giant that worked better than most people thought. When Saeed Khalif left Wisconsin for Michigan State after heading our recruiting, it was a major blow. He wasn't replaced. He was just so good at his job that Chryst couldn't see it and blew it. That's when the end began.

You want to be a winner again? Get Jim Leonhard back in Madison and let him bring in a bunch of ex-Badgers who know the game and can coach it. Guys like Joe Thomas for the Offensive line comes to mind. Also Melvin Gordon. QB coach, someone like Darrel Bevel, or Scott Tolzien, and possibly down the road, Russ Wilson. Imagine Don Beebe coaching your WRs. He could put together a cast of offensive coaches that would make that offense hum and the farm boys would be back plowing holes through defensive lines like they always did in the past.

On defense, rest assured Jimmy knows the guys who have the right connections to make that side of the ball work built in the image of how he sees defenses need to be run.

This would be a winning program. It would be a fairly quick rebuild, and the NIL money and outside support in community and regional business involvement would be huge.

Make sure you also have coaches on staff who can open doors in places like Florida, Georgia, and Alabama as well as in the East coast like we've had to get those RBs out of New Jersey in the past. We need those additional players, and properly applied NIL can help swing the deal, along with the right coaching to get these kids to the next level.

Wisconsin could become someone who has the same potential as Indiana with the right personnel. It's there, just get the right people to tap that well of resources, and the oil money will flow into Madison to make it happen.

My philosophy is pretty simple. GET BACK TO YOUR ROOTS AND BUILD ON IT BY IMPROVING YOUR METHODS OF BRINGING IN THE REGIONAL PLAYERS AND REACH OUT CONSTANTLY IN TOP PLAYER AREAS TO GET THE ADDITIONAL TALENT NEEDED.
 
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I was reading the attached article by Wilcox about Wisconsin should hire James Franklin to replace Fickell. He didn't give a lot of insight into why except saying that he has the Big 10 mentality. Apparently, he didn't realize Fickell did too, for 16 years plus playing time. Of course, if Franklin could bring in Leonhard as defensive coordinator and Darrell Bevel as offensive coordinator and let them determine the right direction to build their recruiting campaign and supervised the whole show with their help, it could be a winning combination for all of them.

But, in this day and age, that's not going to happen. If Franklin took the job I think both Bevel and Leonhard would say thanks but no thanks. I believe Bevel would work for Jimmy as an assistant but if it wasn't Jimmy getting the top job he'd want it himself. Darrell would probably be made an assistant-head coach in that environment.

 

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I was reading the attached article by Wilcox about Wisconsin should hire James Franklin to replace Fickell. He didn't give a lot of insight into why except saying that he has the Big 10 mentality. Apparently, he didn't realize Fickell did too, for 16 years plus playing time. Of course, if Franklin could bring in Leonhard as defensive coordinator and Darrell Bevel as offensive coordinator and let them determine the right direction to build their recruiting campaign and supervised the whole show with their help, it could be a winning combination for all of them.

But, in this day and age, that's not going to happen. If Franklin took the job I think both Bevel and Leonhard would say thanks but no thanks. I believe Bevel would work for Jimmy as an assistant but if it wasn't Jimmy getting the top job he'd want it himself. Darrell would probably be made an assistant-head coach in that environment.


Honestly, I am not sure if NCAA Football is like it used to be. Meaning, being able to recruit within your own state is high in importance. Now I am not saying that landing every top recruit from Wisconsin and surrounding areas isn't a goal, but to achieve that, you now need more than just "You will be playing for your State and close to home and you have a free ride at a great school." What you now need are a lot of financial incentives to attract any player, as well as a program that they can succeed in individually and as a team.

So sure sending a "Oh shucks" kind of guy like Paul Chryst, used to be effective. But now, the player and parents are going to be saying "Well, we do love our home state, but OSU is offering us this, what do you have to offer?"

So the Badgers might be able to attract the little recruited guys from Wisconsin, but if they develop and after their success at the UW, they probably get big offers elsewhere, and its off to the portal they go.

The college sports landscape has completely changed. It used to be about the scholarship and the school. Now, athletes want money and success or else they may go elsewhere.
 
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Honestly, I am not sure if NCAA Football is like it used to be. Meaning, being able to recruit within your own state is high in importance. Now I am not saying that landing every top recruit from Wisconsin and surrounding areas isn't a goal, but to achieve that, you now need more than just "You will be playing for your State and close to home and you have a free ride at a great school." What you now need are a lot of financial incentives to attract any player, as well as a program that they can succeed in individually and as a team.

So sure sending a "Oh shucks" kind of guy like Paul Chryst, used to be effective. But now, the player and parents are going to be saying "Well, we do love our home state, but OSU is offering us this, what do you have to offer?"

So the Badgers might be able to attract the little recruited guys from Wisconsin, but if they develop and after their success at the UW, they probably get big offers elsewhere, and its off to the portal they go.

The college sports landscape has completely changed. It used to be about the scholarship and the school. Now, athletes want money and success or else they may go elsewhere.
I think you should take a look at this list of schools and NIL money they have to dole out. You'll find that Wisconsin has more than both Indiana and Illinois, but the coaching staffs at both those locations have inroads into the homes of kids in that "350-mile radius" which smart programs see as the place they need to recruit their core team. People are way too quick to say that Wisconsin's problem is not enough NIL money. It's there, and Wisconsin is in the top 25 nationally and their program is a disgrace because they obviously are wasting their time in effort by not building on the core recruiting zone.

People are using the NIL money excuse to explain away the problem but the fact is, the money is there the coaching and recruiting isn't.

 

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I think you should take a look at this list of schools and NIL money they have to dole out. You'll find that Wisconsin has more than both Indiana and Illinois, but the coaching staffs at both those locations have inroads into the homes of kids in that "350-mile radius" which smart programs see as the place they need to recruit their core team.

Since you mentioned Indiana, I will use them. A lot of their success in 2024 and now, can be attributed to the transfer portal and the players that new HC Curt Cignetti brought with him from James Madison, 13 players in all. It also doesn't hurt to have IU alumni and a good friend of Cignetti, billionaire Mark Cuban, willing to pump money into the team.

You mentioned "list of schools and NIL money they have to dole out". I was under the impression that they do not have to report exact amounts and that the only money known for sure is the revenue sharing pot that they all get, which is $20.5M for 25-26. Even Cuban's most recent donation to IU was just said to be a “big number”. Was it a billion?

I don't disagree with you that holding serve on recruits in your own home state is important, but with NIL and the TP, it is a lot more complicated than just convincing Wisconsin Farm boys to sign up for a free scholarship.
 
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Since you mentioned Indiana, I will use them. A lot of their success in 2024 and now, can be attributed to the transfer portal and the players that new HC Curt Cignetti brought with him from James Madison, 13 players in all. It also doesn't hurt to have IU alumni and a good friend of Cignetti, billionaire Mark Cuban, willing to pump money into the team.

You mentioned "list of schools and NIL money they have to dole out". I was under the impression that they do not have to report exact amounts and that the only money known for sure is the revenue sharing pot that they all get around $20.5M from for 25-26. Even Cuban's most recent donation to IU was just said to be a “big number”. Was it a billion?

I don't disagree with you that holding serve on recruits in your own home state is important, but with NIL and the TP, it is a lot more complicated than just convincing Wisconsin Farm boys to sign up for a free scholarship.
Until you do the work to build the core there's absolutely no sense in reaching out for the top players to come to Madison. They won't be interested because there wouldn't be any track record of other players to relate to. Build the core then expand it. You won't get that with an outsider.
 

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Until you do the work to build the core there's absolutely no sense in reaching out for the top players to come to Madison. They won't be interested because there wouldn't be any track record of other players to relate to. Build the core then expand it. You won't get that with an outsider.

But there comes the rub. With NIL and the Transfer portal, a bad team is going to have a very tough time building a solid core. Why? Because if you suddenly have some players exceed recruiting expectations, odds are, they will either want a big pay day (via NIL) and/or just get a nice hefty offer to go to a more successful program, and out through the portal they go.

Let's not forget how early we really are with both programs (NIL and TP). Universities are just getting up to speed with using both. Powerhouses already have eager donors and probably having to turn some players away, that really would love to transfer there. I doubt donors are lining up right now to throw money at the Badger Football program.

If I was a player at DiddlyFook U and had a breakout season and suddenly had OSU and Wisconsin wanting me to transfer there, I am headed to OSU, unless WI comes up with an unbelievable NIL package.
 
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But there comes the rub. With NIL and the Transfer portal, a bad team is going to have a very tough time building a solid core. Why? Because if you suddenly have some players exceed recruiting expectations, odds are, they will either want a big pay day (via NIL) and/or just get a nice hefty offer to go to a more successful program, and out through the portal they go.

Let's not forget how early we really are with both programs (NIL and TP). Universities are just getting up to speed with using both. Powerhouses already have eager donors and probably having to turn some players away, that really would love to transfer there. I doubt donors are lining up right now to throw money at the Badger Football program.

If I was a player at DiddlyFook U and had a breakout season and suddenly had OSU and Wisconsin wanting me to transfer there, I am headed to OSU, unless WI comes up with an unbelievable NIL package.

I think we're going to need to agree to disagree. A coach can build a program if he's the right coach. But in the wrong environment, no matter how good a coach you are, you're not going to build it into a powerhouse. Bringing in someone and crossing your fingers hoping he can do something will just push this program further behind. I hope your belief isn't something that is permeating the alumni and support system associated with the Badgers because it's going to end up eroding the entire system before it's through.

Just my opinion.
 

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I think we're going to need to agree to disagree. A coach can build a program if he's the right coach. But in the wrong environment, no matter how good a coach you are, you're not going to build it into a powerhouse. Bringing in someone and crossing your fingers hoping he can do something will just push this program further behind. I hope your belief isn't something that is permeating the alumni and support system associated with the Badgers because it's going to end up eroding the entire system before it's through.

Just my opinion.
2 of my monthly game poker buddies are HUGE Badger fans. They have season tickets to Football, Basketball, Volleyball and Men's Hockey. I've never heard them so down about the state of Badger football. Both are contemplating giving up tickets that they have had for a long time. Neither want to give any money to the UW, despite being panhandled constantly for it, outside their tickets costs.

Really, it isn't a stretch to see where things are headed. It's always been about the money for the UW. What has now changed is that it's all about the money for the top players. Whether that is NIL and/or a future job in Football, they know there's available money. 2 back to back sh*tshow seasons, isn't really going to open up a lot of boosters pockets.

Trust me. I want to be wrong. However, this is a hole that is so deep and complicated, that just hiring a good/well liked coach, isn't going to instantly solve it.
 
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2 of my monthly game poker buddies are HUGE Badger fans. They have season tickets to Football, Basketball, Volleyball and Men's Hockey. I've never heard them so down about the state of Badger football. Both are contemplating giving up tickets that they have had for a long time. Neither want to give any money to the UW, despite being panhandled constantly for it, outside their tickets costs.

Really, it isn't a stretch to see where things are headed. It's always been about the money for the UW. What has now changed is that it's all about the money for the top players. Whether that is NIL and/or a future job in Football, they know there's available money. 2 back to back sh*tshow seasons, isn't really going to open up a lot of boosters pockets.

Trust me. I want to be wrong. However, this is a hole that is so deep and complicated, that just hiring a good/well liked coach, isn't going to instantly solve it
No. It won't solve it instantly. But you need to start somewhere and bringing in Joe Yahoo from Podunk U is not going to get it started. It's going to take a process of rebuilding trust in the Badger culture. It's not going to matter if they don't get it right this time. They may never recover because Wisconsin is a hard sell, not an easy one to boosters. The days of the boozing boosters who got giddy by being able to eat a rubber chicken dinner sitting next to some player is long gone.
 

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I think you should take a look at this list of schools and NIL money they have to dole out. You'll find that Wisconsin has more than both Indiana and Illinois, but the coaching staffs at both those locations have inroads into the homes of kids in that "350-mile radius" which smart programs see as the place they need to recruit their core team. People are way too quick to say that Wisconsin's problem is not enough NIL money. It's there, and Wisconsin is in the top 25 nationally and their program is a disgrace because they obviously are wasting their time in effort by not building on the core recruiting zone.

People are using the NIL money excuse to explain away the problem but the fact is, the money is there the coaching and recruiting isn't.

Too few schools know how to recruit in their own backyards. There are clearly advantages to this, beyond NIL. That is, being close to home, at least for one or two years.
 

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I think we're going to need to agree to disagree. A coach can build a program if he's the right coach. But in the wrong environment, no matter how good a coach you are, you're not going to build it into a powerhouse. Bringing in someone and crossing your fingers hoping he can do something will just push this program further behind. I hope your belief isn't something that is permeating the alumni and support system associated with the Badgers because it's going to end up eroding the entire system before it's through.

Just my opinion.
You and Poker both make good points. To me, Poker's argument boils down to "follow the money", and I agree with that. That will handicap any school that can't do that, and so a lot like MLB, the best players will go to the schools with the most money and the most opportunities to make money. $$$ rule, as always.

Someone in the portal deciding between OSU and Wisconsin? The question answers itself, it's so obvious.

Hey, it's just a very tough time to be a Badgers football fan.
 

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Too few schools know how to recruit in their own backyards. There are clearly advantages to this, beyond NIL. That is, being close to home, at least for one or two years.

Very true. However, in the case of say a top Offensive Lineman, the difference between going to their Home State school of Wisconsin or Ohio State, might be enough to pay their family's farm debt and plenty of plane tickets back and forth.

Along with that, which school would you choose, as a platform to make it to the NFL, your final lucrative goal?
 

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Taking another look at "The Big Picture" of all of this. The money has always been there, but now these sacred tax free institutes are having to share the big pot of money with the Players. So for those schools that can't panhandle more money from "donations", they are going to be faced with some tough financial decisions. Let's not forget that Football and Men's Basketball are the 2 sports the drive the athletic programs for most colleges.

That will handicap any school that can't do that, and so a lot like MLB, the best players will go to the schools with the most money and the most opportunities to make money. $$$ rule, as always.

Spot on.
 
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