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2020 Predictions: Three Guys That Will Step Up

Discussion in 'Green Bay Packers Fan Forum' started by tynimiller, Mar 26, 2020.

  1. tynimiller

    tynimiller Cheesehead

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    Alright...before the draft as I think draftees should NOT be considered for this exercise as too easy of a prediction for many.

    What three returning guys do you feel are going to exceed expectations and/or elevate their level of play in 2020?!


    My three as of right now (3/26/2020) in no particular order are:

    • Lucas Patrick - With a new RT coming in, and the chances of us avoiding injury along the line for a second year basically quite low, I think Patrick gets a chance to show why Gute and Co. gave him his extension. Possible if Turner has to slide to tackle he goes guard, or if Linsley misses any time he snaps...either way I just sense Patrick gets more chances to shine.

    • Equanimeous St. Brown - I was a fan of his before the draft. His craft and technique and mind is what sets up up for success. He is a technician and a scholar (dude is a GENIUS!), which flows over to his approach to football as well. I expect he solidifies himself on the 53 and when called on answers the call successfully more often than not. He isn't going be a starter opposite of Adams, but watch out for him to be a gameday contributor as asked.

    • Jamaal Williams - I have a sneaky suspicion Jamaal hits his stride and becomes an even more solid backup to Jones...it is his contract year, as of now he has no one which is going to steal reps from him. I like his chances....actually I know he'll get chances, and for this thread I'm going to predict he runs with them.

    *Honorable mention: Chandon Sullivan
     
  2. gopkrs

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    The obvious is Sternberger
    The hopeful to get even better is Savage
    The longshot is Burks
     
  3. Mondio

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    Savage, Sternberger, and Gary :)
     
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    Patrick assumes Linsley will be released which is a big assumption. As it stands these are depth and rotation considerations.

    I would propose a different list as the roster stands now, not considering what may happen in the draft which was your premise. Without considering the draft, it would stand to reason the needed step-ups from the current roster must include the positions where there is a fairly strong concensus on where Day 1 and 2 picks should be allocated.
    • Rashan Gary - Fackrell had a 40% snap count last season, Gary 23%. That's a 63% snap count waiting for him. This is not simply a rotational issue. Petine's stated preference is to be able to use Z. or Gary inside in nickel/dime, with all three on the field. Even as it was, those 4 OLBs combined for 231 snaps which implies that 3 of them were on the field 31% of the time despite Pettine's plan being largely deferred. Here we have a #12 pick, a large investment. In a world where getting productivity out of relatively cheap rookie contract players is a necessity, this investment has to be at the top of the list.
    • ILBs - Kirksey is the presumive 3-down ILB. As things stands there isn't another one. So a moneyball approach is needed with the current roster--getting 3 downs in the aggregate out of more than one player, a base player and a passing down player. Burks would appear to be the evident lead candidate in base defense, though a 3rd. year jump should be viewed with skepticism. There are a couple SS candidates for the hybrid role, Green and Redmond, or perhaps even Summers who posted a 4.52 at the Combine. Thinking about Summers size/speed combination as a 3-down player is a massive stretch with unrefined run D instincts. Burks was supposed to be a 3-downer, but that would be huge stretch now. He needs to do on thing well first.
    • Nickel corner: This is a de facto "starter" position. I suppose Sullivan is the leading candidate at this juncture. Whoever it is, he needs to be a player.
    • Sternberger - This is your presumptive Graham replacement, the guy you would expect to be the highest snap count TE by a significant margin. As TEs go, a #75 pick is fairly significant investment. Cheap rookie contract, yada, yada.
    • Funchess/Lazard - Rather than focus on St. Brown, why not consider the guys we presume are ahead of him on the depth chart at this point? A veteran in a new system with an injury history and Lazard in year 2 present considerable question marks. Looking across the TE and WR group, and last year's productivity other than Adams, two out of three of these name players need to show they can play without going to more questionable Plan B's.
     
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    There is always that one guy that colors outside the line. You listed 10...two not returners but Funchess and Kirksey. LOL


    My three, while not the obvious or bigger ones are still guys I foresee stepping up higher than their expectations.
     
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    There's always one guy who thinks he draws the lines others must color inside. Everybody gets to draw their own lines and color as they see fit. "Concept ownership" is itself a bizarre concept. Why you would expect this thread to be different than any other I could not say. Actually, if you look across these threads, you have many guys coloring outside the lines all the time. I'm sure if I cared to look that would include you! I don't disapprove of off-topic wanderings as one thing connects to another.

    But if you insist:

    Williams: He's pretty much a fully formed player and a valuable asset expecially at his cost. I don't expect, not does this team need, some next step forward. He's shown subtle, incremental development over 3 years. There may be some more, but I would not expect it to be dramatic or necessary.

    Patrick: Barring the unlikely Linsley cut or an interior line injury, he's not going to see many snaps. He might be making a jump behind the scenes but you'd never know.

    St. Brown: The one thing I've disliked in his game is how he rounds off his route breaks. You get some of that with long striders like St. Brown but with him it pronounced. That makes a CB's job in man coverage a lot easier. What I think I've noticed on the plus side his route running against zone and maybe a knack for the scramble drill, in other words finding his own space in plays that call for it. But if a receiver is giving away too much in man coverage, his utility is limited.

    You might like those assessments less than the coloring outside the lines. ;)
     
  7. tynimiller

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    Make your own thread...I made it and posed a specific question. Clearly you don't understand the discussion outlined in the first post...it's okay, no hard feelings :)
     
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    Somehow I knew you wouldn't like that. ;)
     
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    :roflmao::roflmao: ;)
     
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    All the way with you on EQ. IMO, he could have been a huge contributor for a Packers offense that had it stuck in the mud far too often. I think he has a big 2020 season.

    Two others: Savage and Sternberger. Savage because another year of seasoning. I think he becomes a huge disrupter this season. Jace moreso because we might not have any other choice. He’s going to have play big times snaps.
     
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    In my opinion the Packers absolutely need Gary and Sternberger to step up. I'm going with Reggie Begelton as a surprise pick for my third one.

    Patrick could have a significant impact even with Linsley retained as soon as a starting offensive lineman is forced to miss time because of injury.
     
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    To be sure, but if Linsley was retained, which I expect, Patrick is a needed depth player but a depth player nonetheless as I stated.

    The point being, you could single out any number of projected depth players who would be required to step up. In fact, starters at nickel/dime corner and nickel/dime ILB could come out of the current roster of DBs pending the draft.
     
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    Ok here's mine.

    ESB I'm with you all the way on that one.

    Tramon or Sullivan depending on if Tramon gets resigned.

    Marcedes Lewis.
     
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    Chandon Sullivan Maybe the biggest surprise of last season for me. He played smart and aggressively. Seemed to have a good instinct. Suspect he was getting and taking lots of advice from Tramon. More experience and he may develop into a solid starter towards the end of the season.

    Kingsly Keke of all the rookies last year, I was most surprised by Keke (very close to K'dar). I could definitely see him getting substantial playing time this coming season. When he did play last year he really looked like he was going all out. I think he will be a handful for OL.

    Aaron Rodgers Many think he played well, I think he played poorly, by his standards and average by NFL standards. With a 2nd year in the offense and more practice time with the newer WRs I expect him to play much better. QB is much tougher than WR. A WR needs to know the route tree. The QB needs to know all the route trees and the blocking scheme and running plays. Its understandabke that this takes some time for a QB, even with such an experienced QB as AR. Certainly an upgrade at WR will help, but there were to many poorly thrown balls and missed opportunities which are solely ARs responsibility.
     
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    AR12 -- after another camp will mesh with at least a few receivers not wearing #17.
    King -- Will bloom off the full year of playing healthy.
    Tonyan -- time to shine.
     
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    - KeKe, do you love me?

    - Sternberger

    - Funchess
     

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