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Official Game Day Thread: Packers @ Cardinals 1/10: LOSE 51 - 45

Discussion in 'Game Day Archive' started by robdog, Jan 7, 2010.

  1. NYPacker
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    Exactly! I was about to point this out myself. Look we understand that we all make mistakes. Rodgers his human so he will do stuff like that. Overall we just didn't deserve to win.
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    keep crosby and driver...i kno driver's old and has lost a lot of swag and his numbers dropped but he is still extremely good and he fights for every yard. Now the Bush thing im totally down with, in fact it needs to be done but truthfully he's all we had because of injuries. We relly just need to go for a secondary this offseason and hopefully someone not nearly as bad as bush someone whose alreddy good and has even more potential.
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    Bush and T. Williams need to go ASAP! U just know the opposing QB will attack them most of the game.

    Driver has lost it a bit, just doesn't seem like himself.

    Crosby is a toss up. We have seen the Pro Bowl Crosby and the WTF? Crosby
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    This is ridiculous. It really is.
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    Driver only screwed up once! He was playing brilliantly today and even though he was called on for holding once he still made some good blocks later on. Tramon Williams isn't so great either but I would have him as our nickel any day instead of bush. I think bush got picked on even more today. Most of todays catches were made by receivers who were covered by bush: doucet and breaston.
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    PEOPLE CALLING FOR DRIVER TO BE REPLACED... PLEASE READ THIS...

    BE QUIET! Are you kidding me... you sound like idiots... let me give you some numbers... Since 2002 DD has averaged 76 receptions a year. Since 2002 DD has missed 2 games (So basically he comes TO PLAY EVERY YEAR). In 2009 (1061 yards) DD had the most most recieving yards since 2006 (1295 yards). DD had 6 touchdowns in 2009 which is the most since 2006 when he had 8.

    You really want to dump the guy who is Mr. Packer. You know what, we should cut Greg Jennings too because he only had 4 touchdowns in the regular season in 2009. Come on folks. I realize we're emotional, but really???
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    I agree that the refs were not responsible. Woodson got schooled by a stud receiver. Dom Capers and the pack need to figure out how to stop veteran QB's who get rid of the ball quickly. Warner had more TD's than he did incompletions!!! Farve tore them up this year as well. I'm guessing Brees, Manning, Rivers and other great QB's would do the same to this defense. The only decent QB with a good team that the pack beat this year was Romo. Last weeks game against Warner hardly counts as the Cardinals were obviously not showing their hand. The pack gave up 9.3 yards per play and over 11 yards per pass play!!! They aren't going to win many playoff games with those kind of stats. As they say, defense wins championships. :tomato:
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    I agree that one horse collar was very questionable.

    However, nothing about the helmet to helmet hit on the holding penalty? Nothing on the offensive interference on Woodson on the last offense scoring drive of Arizona???
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    i have to point out here, this is EXACTLY the type of whiny, pissy attitude that gives GB fans a poor reputation. to suggest some sort of vast conspiracy against the packers is simply ludicris.
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    I don't know if you's have seen it, but the photo on the front page of 1-11-10 Tampa Trib. sport page was the last play of the game...( OT fumble..) and A. Rodgers is being FACEMASKED during this play !! If it can be seen on the front page of our paper then why in H.... can't the official(s) see it... it's super obvious !! This should have been called, and it would have changed the outcome of that play, and the game!! Thanks alot NFL refs !!! Bob-Fla.
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    I have to agree that it looked rather dubious at best ..., however, I disagree that it would have changed the outcome of that particular play ...

    The ball never hit the ground (one reason why some say that the "Tuck-Rule" didn't/shouldn't apply), and Rodgers also (seemingly, clearly) actually kicked the ball ... - If anything ... if that penalty had been called, it should have been a 15 yard penalty from the endzone, still giving the Cardinals possession ... - But then again, Rodgers should probably have been called for a penalty also (for kicking the ball), thus negating the two fouls, and still ending up in a defensive TD ... ?
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    If they called both penalties they would have offset and they would have to replay the down. Even if there were 3 separate penalties on the Cards and the one on Rodgers the penalties would offset. It would be 3rd and 5 for the Packers from the original line of scrimmage. But you're right that in no way did the facemask (or illegal hands to the face or roughing the QB, whatever the penalty should have been) change the outcome of the play. To call a penalty on the game winning play on an act that had no effect on the outcome of that play would be a little hard to swallow for Cards fans, just like the no call is for Packer fans.
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    Very well put, but at least if the penalty had been called we wouldnt be complaining right now like we are and sharing the same misery that we've been feeling since that fetid OT play happened. I wish I could take it back but whats done is done...the best we can hope for is that the league fires those refs for not calling things that led to shifts in the lead as well as momentum for the cards. (Fitzgeralds offensive intereference being the biggest of these no calls)
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    I believe there is alot who are saying that the facemask happened *AFTER* the fumble, in which case, even if the Penalty had been called, it would probably still have been Cardinals ball ...

    - Or so I understand from what I've seen and read ... ?

    Also here is an article on that particular play and why it wasn't called, Click Here ...

    In any case, I recall another incident where Fitzgerald was facemask'ed without it drawing a penalty either ...

    In any case ... when a defense gives up 51 points ... you can't really expect that team (with that kind of defense) to win ... no matter what ...
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    Quientis you are dead on about everything. Look if the defense had played like the number 2 ranked that they are we wouldn't have to think about penalties, facemasks or even OT. Looks like Dom Capers is back to square one just like he was last offseason.
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    If you wanna get REAL technical, I was also thinking that since the - shall we call - "incident" occurred BEFORE any recovery was made by the Arizona defense, wouldn't it still be Packers football, with 15 yards tacked on from the spot of the foul??? I'm just sayin'.

    But, the defense really blew it, so one or two calls "shouldn't" affect the outcome of the game. A few more punts in the 3rd and 4th quarters would have been the serum for this virus.
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    Ok guys ill admit i am a cardinals fan, but you packer fans that were saying the refs were behind the cardinals the whole game obviously wasnt watching the game. The refs missed at least 8 holding calls on the packers offensive line. Also two of the three pass interferences on Michael Adams where complete BS in fact it should have been offensive PI. Ill admit Fitzgarald got away with some offensive PI's but they were missed just like the holding calls on the packers.
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    Clean hands rule, bro. If your team commits a foul on a play where you recover a turnover, the turnover is negated.
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    Not necessarily. If there is an interception or a fumble recovery and there is a hold, block in the back, or other penalty that occurs AFTER the defense gains possession of the ball then the turnover stands and the penalty is assessed from the spot of the foul. However, in this case, since the penalty began occurring before Dansby had possession of the ball, the Packers would have kept the ball.

    That is my understanding at least.
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    Nah.
    We have that "whiny, pissy attitude" because our waffle headed QB went to play for one of our rival teams.
    Can ya blame us?
    There ain't nuthin like a Packer fan. If our loyalty seems "whiny and pissy" to you then so be it.

    Just watch. Waffle Head is gonna quit from Minny and end up replacing Tony Romo!
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    I really don't know what he's talking about GB fans being whiny and pissy....
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    Just ignore him guys, he isnt worth your time, trust me
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    hahaha lolz!

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