A question; if we have the same number of injuries as SF has had all year, including yesterday's game, do we not win?
I think we do, and if we do, we're not having this discussion.
Heck if we didn't lose Shields we probably would have won.
A question; if we have the same number of injuries as SF has had all year, including yesterday's game, do we not win?
I think we do, and if we do, we're not having this discussion.
The point is if you only use 1 tool out of your tool box and not use free agency and trade tools to plug holes you will consistently field one of the youngest teams in the league each year and Super Bowl wins will be few and far between..
I think we blow them out by 10+.A question; if we have the same number of injuries as SF has had all year, including yesterday's game, do we not win?
I think we do, and if we do, we're not having this discussion.
The title of the thread: Draft picks HAVE to have immediate impactA) I don't say they must blossom immediately.
Well said. They both have a huge advantage with great QBs still on their rookie deals. SF is about $3M under the cap next season and they are paying their QB maybe a 1.6M per year. What will their team look like in 2 years when he gets paid $20M as well as Aldon Smith, Crabtree, Gore, Dorsey, Iupati, and some others are all coming up. Think they will keep many of them?I cant wait to see teams like seattle and 49ers in a couple years try to come up with the amount of cap cash that these super studs are gunna want. Once several key rookie contracts are up and several others that will naturally come up and the free agents they all aquired,,,,, have fun paying that bill. The teams will disband..... see the 2013 ravens for the perfect example: they lost guys to free agency that they couldnt afford to pay because they already had mega size contracts, then they lost leadership in retirement. No need to get free agents unless they can come in and plug into a spot due to injury.
Who the heck is Goodman?Well said. They both have a huge advantage with great QBs still on their rookie deals. SF is about $3M under the cap next season and they are paying their QB maybe a 1.6M per year. What will their team look like in 2 years when he gets paid $20M as well as Aldon Smith, Crabtree, Gore, Dorsey, Iupati, and some others are all coming up. Think they will keep many of them?
Boldin, Whitner, and Goodman are coming up next season.
They likely will extend Kap next season and will lose several of these guys.
Goodwin. What is funny is I also had Whitner as Whitman at first. Couldn't figure out what was wrong - had to read a few times. Goodwin is the starting C.Who the heck is Goodman?
Whens the 49ers last super bowl?So that's it then?
Just rest on those laurels?
Last season. They lost it though.Whens the 49ers last super bowl?
The premise of the thread is accurate. If a team only builds through the draft, the draft picks must immediately produce. No arguing with that.
Knowing you drove the bandwagon on all of those three picks while I consistently exhibited skepticism of all three does not lend credibility to your argument, especially considering we are on opposite sides of the fence with the rest of your post. In fact your endorsement of those picks before the draft may actually disqualify you from complaining because TT gave you exactly what you wanted. The only thing I actually agree with you on in your post is that MIN didn count and we should sign a Safety (I'd sign a DT long before I sign an ILB)Thompson's two #1 picks recently were Nick Perry and Datone Jones. They haven't made us any better at all. That's clear. Jerel Worthy was the #2 pick last year. He also has been 100% worthless.
That's not true.Knowing you drove the bandwagon on all of those three picks while I consistently exhibited skepticism of all three does not lend credibility to your argument, especially considering we are on opposite sides of the fence with the rest of your post. In fact your endorsement of those picks before the draft may actually disqualify you from complaining because TT gave you exactly what you wanted. The only thing I actually agree with you on in your post is that MIN didn count and we should sign a Safety (I'd sign a DT long before I sign an ILB)
Rodgers, Jordy, these guys don't get better in their 30's.
That's not true.
I remember reading an interview with Perry before that draft and was amazed he actually answered the question. He was asked which he prefers, 4-3 DE or 3-4 OLB. Most guys in the pre-draft process would say BOTH or EITHER, to keep their # of options open.
But he actually said 4-3 DE.
Now after TT selected him, I came on board.
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That's why I was so scared when he was trying to keep Jennings here last spring.Its easy to scream for free agency when you look across the fence and see the neighbors doing it, but check the checkbook first. Biggest contract in history for our QB. Matthews also is getting paid. Big splashes in free agency are easy when you dont have to pay your best players much.
You have been very VERY vocal about this team and the amount of injuries we have suffered. You admit we would have won yesterday if we didnt have as many (I think we win if neal and shields dont go down) injuries this season, so why so ******* TT? Obviously he doesnt control broken bones, and you say we would have beaten the team you think we should be like.
I have no desire to see the Packers pay a WR 6 mil for 1 season.
Right, it's rare a guy says he prefers one over the other.I can handle both, but I prefer 4-3,”
That is from your site
That's why I was so scared when he was trying to keep Jennings here last spring.
Not sure what James Jones will command, or Jordy next year.
Have to have good ones though, who are on the same page as Rodgers.
Cobb will be in his 4th year of his rookie contract too next season.
Gotta make hay with these guys while on their cheaper rookie contracts.
That's why getting early impact is crucial.
Bull. You agonized over whether to take "Bruce Almighty" or "The Orakpo Clone."That's not true.
I remember reading an interview with Perry before that draft and was amazed he actually answered the question. He was asked which he prefers, 4-3 DE or 3-4 OLB. Most guys in the pre-draft process would say BOTH or EITHER, to keep their # of options open.
But he actually said 4-3 DE.
Now after TT selected him, I came on board.
I remember reading negative things about Datone Jones before the draft. I never had watched UCLA so I didn't even know him. I agree we needed help at that position.... partly because Jerel Worthy didn't provide what we wanted all year, and then he popped his ACL in the last game.
Here's where I will admit mistakes:
I was thrilled to take Abdul Hodge, and Corey Rogers. I also wasn't thrilled with Jordy Nelson. And I didn't know who James Jones was.
We do need a safety badly, and our ILB play is so subpar compared to good NFL defenses.
We need a guy, maybe, like Chris Borland, a smaller version of Kuechly? High energy.
I was thrilled to take Abdul Hodge, and Corey Rogers. I also wasn't thrilled with Jordy Nelson.