Valuation of NFL Teams

[Pokerbrat2000]

Well the latest Valuation of the Vegas Raiders has to have all NFL owners jumping for joy and out buying new mansions. In 1 year, the estimated value of the Raiders went from $7.9B to $11B.

In 2015 that poor franchise was only worth an estimate $1.43B.

Imagine if your assets grew at a rate of 669% in a little over 10 years.

NFL Approves $11B Raiders Sale As Franchise Value Soars 669% Since 2015 - Football Analysis

The NFL’s Finance Committee officially approved a transaction valuing the Las Vegas Raiders at $11…

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[milani]

Well the latest Valuation of the Vegas Raiders has to have all NFL owners jumping for joy and out buying new mansions. In 1 year, the estimated value of the Raiders went from $7.9B to $11B.

In 2015 that poor franchise was only worth an estimate $1.43B.

Imagine if your assets grew at a rate of 669% in a little over 10 years.

NFL Approves $11B Raiders Sale As Franchise Value Soars 669% Since 2015 - Football Analysis

The NFL’s Finance Committee officially approved a transaction valuing the Las Vegas Raiders at $11…

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NFL Franchise Valuations Ranking List: From Cowboys to Bengals

Check out Sportico's full NFL team values ranking list, from the Dallas Cowboys to the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Vegas more appealing than Oakland?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Vegas more appealing than Oakland?

While I didn't look at every team, I think it is probably just the fact that every NFL Team grows in value each year. I mean why not? They basically print their own money, hold their respective cities hostage for tax money when needed, and pay an average salary of $5.2M to their employees (players).

 

[milani]

While I didn't look at every team, I think it is probably just the fact that every NFL Team grows in value each year. I mean why not? They basically print their own money, hold their respective cities hostage for tax money when needed, and pay an average salary of $5.2M to their employees (players).

But in the case of a few teams, the Chargers, the Raiders, the Cardinals, i.e. They have changed locations a number of times in the franchise history. Even moving back. How much was the value increase? And did they move again because that value could be in jeopardy? Red McCombs threatened to move the Vikings before Ziggy stepped in.
I still am amazed that in MLB, a one Charlie Finley, took a franchise that was once the Philadelphia A's which moved to Kansas City, a decent market, then took them to Oakland where they have been for 6 decades. The A's have the worst stadium and the worst location and have not had great attendance for 30-40 years. I wonder what their price would be.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

But in the case of a few teams, the Chargers, the Raiders, the Cardinals, i.e. They have changed locations a number of times in the franchise history. Even moving back. How much was the value increase? And did they move again because that value could be in jeopardy? Red McCombs threatened to move the Vikings before Ziggy stepped in.
I still am amazed that in MLB, a one Charlie Finley, took a franchise that was once the Philadelphia A's which moved to Kansas City, a decent market, then took them to Oakland where they have been for 6 decades. The A's have the worst stadium and the worst location and have not had great attendance for 30-40 years. I wonder what their price would be.

I could be wrong but, Professional sports teams seems to move to other cities almost entirely for financial reasons. Primarily to secure highly lucrative, publicly-funded stadiums or to tap into larger, more profitable television and corporate markets.

 

[milani]

I could be wrong but, Professional sports teams seems to move to other cities almost entirely for financial reasons. Primarily to secure highly lucrative, publicly-funded stadiums or to tap into larger, more profitable television and corporate markets.

They do. The most cataclysmic moves had to be the Brooklyn Dodgers and New York Giants going to LA and Frisco at the same time. 3 MLB teams in the Big Apple seemed too many. Revenue had to be lost there. But no one condemns the moves. And NY got the Mets a few years later.

 

[Firethorn1001]

BThe A's have the worst stadium and the worst location and have not had great attendance for 30-40 years. I wonder what their price would be.

A's are moving to Vegas. They are in Sacramento (as of 2025 season) until their new stadium is built.

 

[milani]

A's are moving to Vegas. They are in Sacramento (as of 2025 season) until their new stadium is built.

Happy for them. Poor Oakland. Loses everything.

 

[El Guapo]

In terms of little brother/big brother syndrome, Oakland is to San Francisco as New Jersey is to New York. Oakland is a MUCH nicer place to be than NJ just outside of Manhattan.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

In terms of little brother/big brother syndrome, Oakland is to San Francisco as New Jersey is to New York. Oakland is a MUCH nicer place to be than NJ just outside of Manhattan.

Agree. I have visited both Oakland and New Jersey and I would much rather live in Oakland, like by a 100%.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I'm just going to leave this right here. Reading stuff like this, makes me want to say "FU to guys like Beckham and the NFL."

'Being real, I'm going to buy a car': NFL star Odell Beckham Jr. says $20M a year isn't enough. Could you make it last?

The special inflation that hits people with higher incomes.

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[gopkrs]

Agree. I have visited both Oakland and New Jersey and I would much rather live in Oakland, like by a 100%.

Oakland must have changed alot

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Oakland must have changed alot

Probably. But unlike most Cities with a population of 250,000 or more, it has its "good" and "bad" areas. So I guess your Oakland experience might depend on where you visit.

 

[OldSchool101]

Oakland must have changed alot

I doubt that. While there are exceptions in any city and this isn’t to disparage the good people in Oakland who offset that, Oakland is debatably one of the worst crime cities in the country. Pair that with CA having the highest regulations over every other state and it’s not a good recipe.

Tim Thomas at UC Berkeley did some homework. One major shift was Middle to Upper Middle Class migrated out of downtown during and post pandemic. They had the means and capacity to do that. The Low income “rental” demographic stayed intact. The City had some nice growth pure population wise, amid a major Statewide population exit. CA has literally went backwards in population recently and that’s a 180 degree reversal from a decade + ago. Nevada, Texas and Florida make up a large % of their lost census.

 

[gopkrs]

I doubt that. While there are exceptions in any city and this isn’t to disparage the good people in Oakland who offset that, Oakland is debatably one of the worst crime cities in the country. Pair that with CA having the highest regulations over every other state and it’s not a good recipe.

Tim Thomas at UC Berkeley did some homework. One major shift was Middle to Upper Middle Class migrated out of downtown during and post pandemic. They had the means and capacity to do that. The Low income “rental” demographic stayed intact. The City had some nice growth pure population wise, amid a major Statewide population exit. CA has literally went backwards in population recently and that’s a 180 degree reversal from a decade + ago. Nevada, Texas and Florida make up a large % of their lost census.

You took what I said and turned it completely around

 

[OldSchool101]

You took what I said and turned it completely around

Well looking back? It’s boring as S in here please take your time and stretch it out some because Right now I’m not even sure what the H you’re talking about!

PS @gopkrs You know we’re all bored to death when we start debating which cities we should move to and neither are remotely favorable solutions! Im so bored im about ready to jump into a Bears website and start debating their 3rd Round Punter again as that would be interesting than Oakland or Newark!

 

[milani]

I doubt that. While there are exceptions in any city and this isn’t to disparage the good people in Oakland who offset that, Oakland is debatably one of the worst crime cities in the country. Pair that with CA having the highest regulations over every other state and it’s not a good recipe.

Tim Thomas at UC Berkeley did some homework. One major shift was Middle to Upper Middle Class migrated out of downtown during and post pandemic. They had the means and capacity to do that. The Low income “rental” demographic stayed intact. The City had some nice growth pure population wise, amid a major Statewide population exit. CA has literally went backwards in population recently and that’s a 180 degree reversal from a decade + ago. Nevada, Texas and Florida make up a large % of their lost census.

I wonder what Charlie Finley was thinking back in 1967 when he left KC. Even then you would have thought he could go to a more profitable market. Through expansion over the next 30 years teams sprouted up all over into some good ones. He was fighting the competition of the SF Giants. At any rate the A's won 3 WS with a cheap payroll in the 70s. And then came back in the Eckersley, McGuire days.

 

[OldSchool101]

I wonder what Charlie Finley was thinking back in 1967 when he left KC. Even then you would have thought he could go to a more profitable market. Through expansion over the next 30 years teams sprouted up all over into some good ones. He was fighting the competition of the SF Giants. At any rate the A's won 3 WS with a cheap payroll in the 70s. And then came back in the Eckersley, McGuire days.

Funny story about how KC was chosen. I’ve probably regurgitated that story but I read this book written by HL Hunt’s right hand man, J Curington (motive and opportunity)
He makes and strong insinuations without actually saying it but he essentially said he was tasked with finding HL options for a Football City. He recommended KC after lunch and did it from the office adjacent to Hunt and it took him about the time to eat a half sandwich (I don’t recall what he had for lunch I’m making that part up but you get the jist of it). It’s so unbelievable it’s actually believable. HL was very corky you’ve got to read it it’s a short book.
I won’t get into possible ties with MLK jr or JFK etc.. but I’ll just say Curington made it obvious what he was hinting with first hand accounts.

 

[milani]

Funny story about how KC was chosen. I’ve probably regurgitated that story but I read this book written by HL Hunt’s right hand man, J Curington (motive and opportunity)
He makes and strong insinuations without actually saying it but he essentially said he was tasked with finding HL options for a Football City. He recommended KC after lunch and did it from the office adjacent to Hunt and it took him about the time to eat a half sandwich (I don’t recall what he had for lunch I’m making that part up but you get the jist of it). It’s so unbelievable it’s actually believable. HL was very corky you’ve got to read it it’s a short book.
I won’t get into possible ties with MLK jr or JFK etc.. but I’ll just say Curington made it obvious what he was hinting with first hand accounts.

Well, the Dallas Texans obviously were competing with the new Dallas Cowboys and playing in a small market. This was before the Civil Rights Acts and trying to attract black athletes to play and travel to southern cities was very difficult in any sport. KC was still segregated in 1963. The Dallas Texans had just won the AFL championship.

 

[tynimiller]

Well the latest Valuation of the Vegas Raiders has to have all NFL owners jumping for joy and out buying new mansions. In 1 year, the estimated value of the Raiders went from $7.9B to $11B.

In 2015 that poor franchise was only worth an estimate $1.43B.

Imagine if your assets grew at a rate of 669% in a little over 10 years.

NFL Approves $11B Raiders Sale As Franchise Value Soars 669% Since 2015 - Football Analysis

The NFL’s Finance Committee officially approved a transaction valuing the Las Vegas Raiders at $11…

footballanalysis1.com

NFL Franchise Valuations Ranking List: From Cowboys to Bengals

Check out Sportico's full NFL team values ranking list, from the Dallas Cowboys to the Cincinnati Bengals.

www.sportico.com

In truth if everyone's assets grew at the same rate, one could argue zero growth occurred.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

In truth if everyone's assets grew at the same rate, one could argue zero growth occurred.

Not sure what your point is? In truth, if we all had wings, most of us could fly.