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    Params: post, 471886, a:1:{i:0;s:919:"Anyone else watch the Niners game last night? anybody see Alex smith out there looking like joe Montana? You know why he was able to complete 98% of his passes? because he has a RELIABLE run game to lean on. The Cardinals(a pretty good defense) did not have the luxury of dropping linebackers into coverage because they had to respect the threat of a running game. All these folks on here that keep arguing we don't need a running game because we are a passing team clearly doesn't really understand football. Any defensive coordinator in the history of football will tell you that it's a win if they can drop lb's into coverage and just use their front four or three to stop the run. Those are extra defenders agsinst the pass which is a huge benefit when it comes to stopping a team based on...being a "passing team". We had a chnace to grab Lynch last year and blew it....go figure. TT needs to not be so passive.";}, 1425574816, 1425580978
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    Params: post, 471890, a:3:{i:0;s:369:"Right, then you have games like when the Niners played the Giants and got blown out at home because they can't pass the ball. You're kidding yourself if you think the Niners aren't just as one dimensional as we are. For them it's running the ball. For us it's passing. Also, we went over this in the great Marshawn Lynch thread. The fact is you really only need the ";i:1;a:4:{s:3:"tag";s:1:"i";s:6:"option";N;s:8:"original";a:2:{i:0;s:3:"[I]";i:1;s:4:"[/I]";}s:8:"children";a:1:{i:0;s:8:"illusion";}}i:2;s:157:" of being able to run the ball. You need to run it well enough to sell it. We don't run well enough to sell the idea of running the ball, which is our issue.";}, 1425574816, 1425580978
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    Params: post, 471892, a:1:{i:0;s:131:"From the 2011 season... of the top 5 rushing teams, 2 went to the playoffs. Of the bottom 5 rushing teams, 2 went to the playoffs.";}, 1425574816, 1425580978
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    Params: post, 471904, a:2:{i:0;a:4:{s:3:"tag";s:5:"quote";s:6:"option";s:37:"rodell330, post: 471902, member: 6676";s:8:"original";a:2:{i:0;s:47:"[quote="rodell330, post: 471902, member: 6676"]";i:1;s:8:"[/quote]";}s:8:"children";a:1:{i:0;s:189:"So what is your argument? A solid running game makes a passing offense that rellies so much on throwing the ball and playaction better. That is a FACT. A running game is important...period.";}}i:1;s:196:" No it's a myth. It's been proven its a myth. You have teams with terrible running games winning the SB, if you don't like numbers and would rather have an example look to the giants last season.";}, 1425574816, 1425580978
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    Params: post, 471914, a:1:{i:0;s:294:"Here is a observation I think everyone would like to have a solid running game...But TT will not go after huge big name guys in trades or even free agency Making threads every day wont change that fact...People need to really move on, and accept there is a very slim chance of him doing it.";}, 1425574816, 1425580978
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    Params: post, 472021, a:4:{i:0;a:4:{s:3:"tag";s:5:"quote";s:6:"option";s:34:"ivo610, post: 471904, member: 2128";s:8:"original";a:2:{i:0;s:44:"[quote="ivo610, post: 471904, member: 2128"]";i:1;s:8:"[/quote]";}s:8:"children";a:1:{i:0;s:194:"No it's a myth. It's been proven its a myth. You have teams with terrible running games winning the SB, if you don't like numbers and would rather have an example look to the giants last season.";}}i:1;s:417:"A myth? Proven? Where? When? The Giants one year? Lets see what the Giants had. Two backs Jacobs and Bradshaw that combined for 1200+ yards. The Giants as a whole only had 1400+. But here's the rub, they could run the ball when they wanted to. While not in the numbers of high rushing yards of Denver or Houston last year they are only slightly off the number of the two top backs of teams that win the Super Bowl. ";i:2;a:4:{s:3:"tag";s:4:"code";s:6:"option";N;s:8:"original";a:2:{i:0;s:6:"[CODE]";i:1;s:7:"[/CODE]";}s:8:"children";a:1:{i:0;s:822:"Packers 1996 Bennett 899 Levens 566 1465 Yards Broncos 1997 Davis 1750 Hebron 222 1972 Yards Broncos 1998 David 2008 Loville 161 2169 Yards Rams 1999 Faulk 1381 Holcombe 294 1675 Yards Ravens 2000 Lewis 1364 Holnes 588 1952 Yards Pats 2001 Smith 1157 Faulk 169 1326 Yards Tampa 2002 Pittman 718 Alstott 548 1329 Yards Pats 2003 Smith 642 Faulk 638 1280 Yards Pats 2004 Dillon 1635 Faulk 255 1890 Yards Pitt 2005 Bettis 1202 Bettis 368 1570 Yards Colts 2006 Addi 1081 Rhodes 641 1722 Yards Giants 2007 Jacobs 1009 Ward 602 1611 Yards Pitt 2008 Parker 791 Moore 588 1379 Yards Saints 2009 Thomas 793 Bell 655 1448 Yards Packers 2010 Jackson 703 Khun 281 984 Yards Giants 2011 Jacobs 571 Bradshaw 659 1230 Yards ";}}i:3;s:319:" Now these are just the numbers for the two top RB's for each team. For example, the Packers in 2010, Rodgers was the second leading rusher not Khun. Add Rodgers and you get another 356 yards to that 984. But rushing don't matter. Which one of these sets numbers proves running the ball to win the Super Bowl is a myth?";}, 1425574816, 1425580978
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  154. internal_data/templates/S.7,L.1,bb_code_tag_code.php
  155. internal_data/templates/S.7,L.1,bb_code_tag_attach.php
  156. library/XenForo/Helper/Criteria.php
  157. library/XenForo/Debug.php
  158. internal_data/templates/S.7,L.1,PAGE_CONTAINER.php
  159. library/XenForo/ViewRenderer/Json.php