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<blockquote data-quote="PackersRS" data-source="post: 258040" data-attributes="member: 1429"><p>Those "questions" I'll reffer to them later.</p><p></p><p>He said it was their fault. I never said it wasn't, my point is that a really great coach will will his players, and not depend on their temperament...</p><p></p><p></p><p>Nah, I don't buy that. Porter was benched for one game. What happened on the game he came back? 2 sacks. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Consistancy. That's what I'm talking about. When the WHOLE TEAM lacks consistancy. Again, you seem to be making a question, but that's really an innapropriate conclusion.</p><p> See? Here's the innapropriate conclusion. "You don't want the Nam War? You're a communist."</p><p></p><p></p><p>If the players, all of them, aren't listening, then IT IS the coaches fault. They aren't being able to make the players believe in them.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Duh, that's exactly what I've been saying. So he's a good coach as long as someone can motivate the team and be a leader. He lacks the leadership necessary to be a coach, and if someone can do that job for him, then it's fine. If not, then it's not. That's what the problem is.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I knew that it would end up being Rodger's fault somehow. To quote Jersey Al, "what have you been drinking?"</p><p></p><p>He has adapted? HE SAID IT HIMSELF HE ONLY LET RODGERS CALL THE SHOTS AGAINST THE DALLAS GAME, AND WE ALL KNOW HOW THAT WENT.</p><p></p><p>If you trully believe that McCarthy has indeed called for more short passes and more runs, prior to the Cowboys game, then there's no point in discussing with you.</p><p></p><p></p><p>If they aren't listening, he's not doing a good job in selling his philosophy. It *could* be because he appears more as a friend than a father.</p><p></p><p>Who did I want him to replace him with? Raji. Wynn. Obviously they're not as good as Jolly, but see the Joey Porter case.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, they should. But it's the coaches job to make sure they do. The Dallas game proved exactly that, that if the players can rile up, than we can make it. If not, don't count on the coaches to do it,</p><p></p><p></p><p>That, to me, says exactly my point, that McCarthy couldn't keep them focused to that game. It tells me that during McCarthy's tenure, the Green Bay Packers have been a VERY irregular team, capable of playing a great game one day, and an awful game the next.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So the WHOLE team is composed of Divas? That is hard to swallow...</p><p></p><p></p><p>And even though I hate him for playing in Minnesota, that's exactly my point. Favre had the kind of leadership that allowed this team to lack such a coach. The kind of leadership Rodgers don't have. The fact that one has been in the league for 17 years, and the other for 5, with only 1 and a half season playing, doesn't change that. And it doesn't change the fact that MM isn't a good coach enough to exercise that leadership, something that is IMHO condition <em>sine qua non </em>to be a great HC.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I can see what you're saying, but when you use Bill Belichick as an example of that, then you must not have been in this earth for quite some time. Just so you know, there have already been petitions to change the Lombardi Trophy to the Belichick Trophy...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Different players react differently to the same circunstances. McCarthy needs to find what's the best approach to his players. His current approach isn't working.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You obviously don't know me well enough to make that claim. I've said it before that I WANT him to do it, and I mentioned why. If you're just going to ignore it, then good day sir, I said good day.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PackersRS, post: 258040, member: 1429"] Those "questions" I'll reffer to them later. He said it was their fault. I never said it wasn't, my point is that a really great coach will will his players, and not depend on their temperament... Nah, I don't buy that. Porter was benched for one game. What happened on the game he came back? 2 sacks. Consistancy. That's what I'm talking about. When the WHOLE TEAM lacks consistancy. Again, you seem to be making a question, but that's really an innapropriate conclusion. See? Here's the innapropriate conclusion. "You don't want the Nam War? You're a communist." If the players, all of them, aren't listening, then IT IS the coaches fault. They aren't being able to make the players believe in them. Duh, that's exactly what I've been saying. So he's a good coach as long as someone can motivate the team and be a leader. He lacks the leadership necessary to be a coach, and if someone can do that job for him, then it's fine. If not, then it's not. That's what the problem is. I knew that it would end up being Rodger's fault somehow. To quote Jersey Al, "what have you been drinking?" He has adapted? HE SAID IT HIMSELF HE ONLY LET RODGERS CALL THE SHOTS AGAINST THE DALLAS GAME, AND WE ALL KNOW HOW THAT WENT. If you trully believe that McCarthy has indeed called for more short passes and more runs, prior to the Cowboys game, then there's no point in discussing with you. If they aren't listening, he's not doing a good job in selling his philosophy. It *could* be because he appears more as a friend than a father. Who did I want him to replace him with? Raji. Wynn. Obviously they're not as good as Jolly, but see the Joey Porter case. Yes, they should. But it's the coaches job to make sure they do. The Dallas game proved exactly that, that if the players can rile up, than we can make it. If not, don't count on the coaches to do it, That, to me, says exactly my point, that McCarthy couldn't keep them focused to that game. It tells me that during McCarthy's tenure, the Green Bay Packers have been a VERY irregular team, capable of playing a great game one day, and an awful game the next. So the WHOLE team is composed of Divas? That is hard to swallow... And even though I hate him for playing in Minnesota, that's exactly my point. Favre had the kind of leadership that allowed this team to lack such a coach. The kind of leadership Rodgers don't have. The fact that one has been in the league for 17 years, and the other for 5, with only 1 and a half season playing, doesn't change that. And it doesn't change the fact that MM isn't a good coach enough to exercise that leadership, something that is IMHO condition [I]sine qua non [/I]to be a great HC. I can see what you're saying, but when you use Bill Belichick as an example of that, then you must not have been in this earth for quite some time. Just so you know, there have already been petitions to change the Lombardi Trophy to the Belichick Trophy... Different players react differently to the same circunstances. McCarthy needs to find what's the best approach to his players. His current approach isn't working. You obviously don't know me well enough to make that claim. I've said it before that I WANT him to do it, and I mentioned why. If you're just going to ignore it, then good day sir, I said good day. [/QUOTE]
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