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Message: <blockquote data-quote="RRyder" data-source="post: 786972" data-attributes="member: 10329">Ughhh.1: Yes. Those ****** stats are still better then Kizers because yes those TOs count when your 100% accountable for both of them. 2: You used Manning in an effort to use him in a side by side COMPARISON for young QBs that struggled their rookie seasons but went on to be good. (something you do again in #3)3: WTH does any of that have to do with Kizer being a ****** QB right now today? I shouldn't have to say this but you can recognize the fact that he is an absolutely horrendous QB as of today AND still be hopeful he develops in the future. Rodgers sucked too early on his first few years in the league. Him being an all time great now doesnt change the fact that he sucked then</blockquote>

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