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Message: <blockquote data-quote="El Guapo" data-source="post: 668644" data-attributes="member: 5830">Hornung was a very good player and a very important part of the Packers championship legacy. However, stats are typically the first thing to even get you into the HOF or number-retirement discussion, then come the intangible merits. Paul just wasn't a dominant player. He wasn't the face of the organization. That's what I think of when I think of the all-time greats.I'm happy any time that a Packers player makes it into the HOF, but that isn't an automatic entry into the ring of honor and number retirement. I appreciate everything that Paul contributed to the Packers both on the field and off. Many of his antics contribute to the color and charm of the 1960s teams. They don't put him up in the realm of a retired number though.As for Lombardi, he had a special place in his heart for Paul Hornung. Some have suggested because Paul embodied the guy that Lombardi somewhat wanted to be (carefree and the man on town) but couldn't allow himself to be. Lombardi unofficially retiring Paul's #5 may have had more to it than meets the eye.</blockquote>

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