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<blockquote data-quote="mradtke66" data-source="post: 1076728" data-attributes="member: 4199"><p>It is and isn’t at the same time. </p><p></p><p>Some plays and assignments are obvious. If the defense is in cover 0, the CB aligned across a single receiver almost certainly has that receiver in man. If the receiver puts a move on him 7 yards down field and the pass is completed, the CB lost the rep. Easy. </p><p></p><p>On offense, enough people can recognize a T-E stunt and can reasonably assign blame if the stunt isn’t passed off correctly. Easy, but slightly harder. </p><p></p><p>If the QB throws into double or triple coverage on 1st down, that’s a bad play. If one of those two players drops an interception that hits their hands, both of them made a bad play. The QB for gifting the pick, the CB for not making the catch. </p><p></p><p>Similarly, if the QB avoids the rush, puts a perfect pass over the linebacker and short of the safety for a 25 yard gain…but the WR drops it, the QB will still be positively graded and the WR will take the negative. </p><p></p><p>Where this gets weird is on running plays. It’s hard to tell if a pulling guard did his job or not. Which hole was he actually aiming for? On defense against a running QB, maybe the strategy is to hit him every time a read option is called to get them out of those play calls, even though the defense might give up 7 YPC early. That’s not a reflection on player, but rather a deliberate choice to hopefully win the war. </p><p></p><p>Zone defense can also be difficult tell who messed up. </p><p></p><p>Then the actual grades. Back when they published everything, a single play was on a -2 to +2 scale, with a 0 being you did your job. This caused a lot of nashing of teeth when a player would get a 0 for a game (or around that) and confuse people who assumed a 0 was bad, when it was fine. </p><p></p><p>The ratings are not perfect, you just have to accept what they are trying to do/measure and understand the limitations. They, PFF clearly call out what they are and are not.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mradtke66, post: 1076728, member: 4199"] It is and isn’t at the same time. Some plays and assignments are obvious. If the defense is in cover 0, the CB aligned across a single receiver almost certainly has that receiver in man. If the receiver puts a move on him 7 yards down field and the pass is completed, the CB lost the rep. Easy. On offense, enough people can recognize a T-E stunt and can reasonably assign blame if the stunt isn’t passed off correctly. Easy, but slightly harder. If the QB throws into double or triple coverage on 1st down, that’s a bad play. If one of those two players drops an interception that hits their hands, both of them made a bad play. The QB for gifting the pick, the CB for not making the catch. Similarly, if the QB avoids the rush, puts a perfect pass over the linebacker and short of the safety for a 25 yard gain…but the WR drops it, the QB will still be positively graded and the WR will take the negative. Where this gets weird is on running plays. It’s hard to tell if a pulling guard did his job or not. Which hole was he actually aiming for? On defense against a running QB, maybe the strategy is to hit him every time a read option is called to get them out of those play calls, even though the defense might give up 7 YPC early. That’s not a reflection on player, but rather a deliberate choice to hopefully win the war. Zone defense can also be difficult tell who messed up. Then the actual grades. Back when they published everything, a single play was on a -2 to +2 scale, with a 0 being you did your job. This caused a lot of nashing of teeth when a player would get a 0 for a game (or around that) and confuse people who assumed a 0 was bad, when it was fine. The ratings are not perfect, you just have to accept what they are trying to do/measure and understand the limitations. They, PFF clearly call out what they are and are not. [/QUOTE]
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