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<blockquote data-quote="HardRightEdge" data-source="post: 869727"><p>Lot's a variables, to be sure, which is my point. There may be a WR they love, with higher grade than Zierlein or the consensus accords.</p><p></p><p>Gutekunst loved Savage who had a 6.3 Zerlein grade at pick #21. That grade, NFL.com tells us, is at the low end of, "Will be a starter in the first two years." It was pretty evident Gutekunst's perspective was he sure will be a starter in the first year, which equates closer to a Zerline 6.7 - 6.8, "Year 1 quality starter", expectation.</p><p></p><p>[As an aside, I find the 6.5 "boom or bust" grade is a little misleading for high ceiling/low floor guys. It seems to me an "off" grade with a specified range makes more sense.]</p><p></p><p>The guys right above and below Savage were Simmons at 7.0, Fant at 6.4, Dillard at 6.7 and Howard at 6.3. Love, and draft boards, are unique.</p><p></p><p>I see one mock where the Packers trade up to #19 for Simms; Zierline has him as the #15 highest graded WR which would place him lower 2nd. round to middle 3rd. We don't know where Gutekunst would place him.</p><p></p><p>As you say, we are not in the room, which is my point. I can think of some other needs positions where, unbeknownst to us, there could be unexpected love for a guy that the consensus sees as either a fall down the board or that is perceived as a reach, which of course is a 20/20 hindsight irrelevancy without a detailed breakdown of the thinking behind it which GMs never provide.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, there could be Gutekinst love for an DT, OT, slot corner (or preferably a guy with slot/perimeter swing potential, a la Alexander), or even another 3-down ILB who leans toward coverage strength. All are possibilities in whatever order you might prioritize them.</p><p></p><p>Further, in this business, love is relative. You might love a guy at #50 but not at #30 and so on down the board. Or you may not have any particular love for any one player at any one point, but see a number of possible strong friendships with a number of guys who present various skill sets at a particular spot in the draft. It could be more than two.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HardRightEdge, post: 869727"] Lot's a variables, to be sure, which is my point. There may be a WR they love, with higher grade than Zierlein or the consensus accords. Gutekunst loved Savage who had a 6.3 Zerlein grade at pick #21. That grade, NFL.com tells us, is at the low end of, "Will be a starter in the first two years." It was pretty evident Gutekunst's perspective was he sure will be a starter in the first year, which equates closer to a Zerline 6.7 - 6.8, "Year 1 quality starter", expectation. [As an aside, I find the 6.5 "boom or bust" grade is a little misleading for high ceiling/low floor guys. It seems to me an "off" grade with a specified range makes more sense.] The guys right above and below Savage were Simmons at 7.0, Fant at 6.4, Dillard at 6.7 and Howard at 6.3. Love, and draft boards, are unique. I see one mock where the Packers trade up to #19 for Simms; Zierline has him as the #15 highest graded WR which would place him lower 2nd. round to middle 3rd. We don't know where Gutekunst would place him. As you say, we are not in the room, which is my point. I can think of some other needs positions where, unbeknownst to us, there could be unexpected love for a guy that the consensus sees as either a fall down the board or that is perceived as a reach, which of course is a 20/20 hindsight irrelevancy without a detailed breakdown of the thinking behind it which GMs never provide. Anyway, there could be Gutekinst love for an DT, OT, slot corner (or preferably a guy with slot/perimeter swing potential, a la Alexander), or even another 3-down ILB who leans toward coverage strength. All are possibilities in whatever order you might prioritize them. Further, in this business, love is relative. You might love a guy at #50 but not at #30 and so on down the board. Or you may not have any particular love for any one player at any one point, but see a number of possible strong friendships with a number of guys who present various skill sets at a particular spot in the draft. It could be more than two. [/QUOTE]
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